you wonderful wonderful man!!! all morning i have searched on google for an answer, they all said lock the address bar and the toolbar but not the bit about putting the cursor on the verticle line ect,well thanks to you i have done it!!! ive also signed up to be a member of whatever web site i am on to express my gratitude to you! lol, im off for a look about now to see what ive let myself in for,again thank you!!