yep, i would have agreed with you until about a week ago. couldn't understand all the people griping about vista. but, i installed sp1 and then things went to crap. now coming out of sleep mode (toshiba laptop) it takes about two minutes to get a logon screen and usable pointer to log on. then once it finally logs on it is so busy with all the service crap that it takes about another 4 - 5 minutes before the mouse or any thing is even usable. the performance graph and window shows a MASSIVE!! number of services being registered from the hard drive. guess i will try uninstalling sp1 and hope that will make everything like it was before when i thought vista was pretty good.