Cell phones forum: LG DARE vs Iphone

I've had the Dare for about a week, but am going to switch to the iphone.
#1, and most important..Verizon's coverage in my area is abysmal. I had hoped that a newer phone might pull in the signal a bit better, but it doesn't. OTOH..AT&T has a tower within sight (1/2 mile) of my house, unlike Verizon, whose nearest towers are both over 3 miles away.
#2 The user interface on the Dare is infuriating. Too many times you have to tap more than once to get something to happen despite the haptic feedback telling you that your tap was detected. Especially annoying is the way it works on the web. Far too often while scrolling you end up clicking on a link on the page and getting sent somewhere you didn't want to go. Also, it is often very difficult to select the link you want without hitting the ones above or below it instead. And the responsiveness is still and issue since it often takes a multitude of taps before it actually responds. Worst is when trying to select a text input box. It takes a lot of tapping at it before you can get the keyboard to come up so that you can type something in.
The landscape/portrait rotation feature is very limited. It only works one way..by turning the phone to its left side, and only while using the web, the media player, and the picture viewer.

On the iphone you can turn the phone in any direction and view from any of its 4 sides at any time, not just in certain apps. Also, the interface on the iphone is way more responsive and I can type with far fewer errors on it despite the lack of haptic feedback. I admit that I'll miss the video capability and the better resolution camera on the Dare, but as a phone or a web browser the iphone has it beat due to AT&T's better signal in my area.

Stuff you Missed-

Iphone-

App Store
App Store
***APP STORE!!!!! Cannot be conveyed in words how big of a diff this makes
Geo Tagging
Iphone Social Networking
3-D Games
Push and Micro Sync
Two finger touch Technology
*Full Qwerty Keyboard/Virtual Keyboard-dunno y you missed that
*FULL BROWSER-dunno y you missed that either along with specfic made for Iphone OPTIONAL Mobile Pages
*Better Resolution-Screen
*USB Use- but WTF does that have to do with the price of socks?
An OS- LG does not have WMobile 6 or anything
Free Texting-through Aim to any phone
Plus the 8 things you said...
* Sexiness- The dare is ugly c'mon

LG Dare
.....hmmmmm whatever you said don't think you missed the Dare's good points

It is hard to really compare phones from incompatible networks/providers. The only way to truly compare would be two phones from the same provider. While I prefer any Windows Mobile phone, some folks prefer Symbion, Apple, Palm and other user interfaces. This is really difficult to have a fair comparison. We all have preferences/needs that differ dramatically from user to user.

You're missing a few key points, I'd say:

iPhone 3G supports multi-touch gestures; the Dare doesn't.

Apple's GPS support already provides geotagged photos and location-based apps from day one.

For music, the iPhone supports full-quality Internet streaming radio through native apps; you could argue this doesn't completely count, but Rhapsody is strictly optional on the Dare, too.

And the most important bit, which you probably already picked up on: an iPhone native app is generally more flexible and powerful than a BREW app, especially since iPhone apps supports full 3D, GPS, and the tilt sensor. Apple's implementation of shopping and downloading is also arguably more capable, since it's fairly easy to shop and install directly from the phone as well as to do the same from iTunes on a computer.

Agree. Verizon might have some good coverage in some places. I can't get out of the contract because of my family plan. If I had a chance, I will definetely by the IPhone G3. -- LG Dare is way behind iPhone technology ....

I have had the iphone for about a week. I'm still learning how to navigate. Here is what I like so far:

1. Pretty easy to use. Some items take a while to remember how to work them, but it is getting easier with time and practice. My Verizon phone took me two weeks or more to finally get familiar with it.
This seems a little more straightforward.

2. nice features in general and convenient to have wherever I go. It is nice to have internet... My internet on Verizon was a joke, although I am sure they will eventually catchup in order to compete. I gave my phone to one son who is still on verizon... he is delighted!

3. keyboard is convenient but takes a while to get used to. My fingers don't always hit the right key.

4. The GPS feature it nice but I wish it talked as well so I don't have to look down at it when I am driving.

5. The email feature is also nice to have. Not all my email accounts worked smoothly when I tried them, but then I don't need to have all of them with me; I am rearranging my email boxes so I get less junk on the phone and only get the essential emails I need while I am out and about. My roadrunner accounts on my home network are not particularly received well thru the att network, but aol, mobileme work great.

6. The Ical is terrific especially when used in conjunction with mobileme so that the calendar is in sync
with other computers at home.

7. The app store is nice, although my first downloaded free app seemed to conflict with the software in that some other items did not work correctly. I had to redo the phone software.

8. Despite the complaints about the lower lens quality of the camera, I find it works great and haven't so far felt I needed a flash. The only difficulty is holding the phone still enough while capturing the photo.

9. The instant stock reports is also a very convenient feature.

What I don't like:
1. It is a little more bulky than most other cell phones. It doesn't fit into my phone holders like those that are attached to some purses. When I wear a dress or slacks with no pockets, and I don't have a purse with me, I have no where to put it. I did however devise a way to hang it around my neck when I am walking. I know there are arm bands available, and maybe I'll try one, but even that looks a little bulky. On the other hand it fits nicely in my husbands pants or shirt pocket. It is slightly more bulky to hold onto when using it as a phone.

2. The Batteries wear down really quickly, even with the Gps turned off. I have a set up in the car now where I can recharge it while traveling.

3. The monthly bill is a bit more costlier than I thought it would be. I am going to charge my two adult children for their portion of the bill. I am not sure if this will be more of a luxury than I want, but time will tell.

4. I am disappointed that this phone and ATT do not include voice dial. I assumed it would because I had it with Verizon as part of the deal. I bought a blue tooth earphone for driving, but I still have to manually dial a number. It is unsafe, to do that, and voice dial would take care of it. ATT wants another $4.99 a month (+ tax,fee I imagine) for that service, which I do believe should be included. I will be contacting ATT about this matter, to be sure. And the more people that do, the more likely that feature will be included in the package.

5. I must have a lot more interference in my house than I thought. The ATT bar signal is low, although I do get good reception on the phone. The wifi signal, if I use wifi, is very low. I probably don't need it but was told by the ATT that using wifi would speed things up a bit. NOT sure I have found it to be true.

I have to remind myself that although this device acts like a computer, it is not, and it is still a phone!!
One cannot cut and paste like on a computer, which I have to admit would be a nice feature to have.

Well, Verizon network is pretty good but don't get the LG Dare. I have it and it's a nice small phone but it has alot of issues. I hope Verizon comes up with a software upgrade to fix the keys getting stuck and the background light. Forget about recieving a call on a Sunny day, you can't see the screen at all and you can't modify the background light. It's a cool phone but the "keys are killing us". On several occassions I called the wrong people and I must of hit 1000 times the end key and nothing... the stupid phone doesn't respond. Don't even get me started about scrolling up and down. Read some reviews and ask around before you buy the phone.

Actually, I'm on my sceond LG Dare phone and it has the same issue. It's the way the phone was design, you just have to get used to it when the keys don't respond...

Does anyone know if the Dare's GPS can be used outside of the VZNavigator monthly subscription?

EVDO (Evolution Data Only) is a form of 3G cellular data access; Revision A is a sequel to EVDO that improves both download and upload speeds without changing much of the same technology.

In short, it means faster Internet access on the phone. EVDO Rev A is roughly as fast as the HSPA (High Speed Packet Access) format used for 3G by AT&T.

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Mark

Is it possible you received a defective phone? I've only seen one negative review about the dare and was planning on getting one. I would be really disappointed if I had your experience!

I purchased the Dare yesterday after 4 separate and irritating visits to several Verizon locations, Corporate and non corporate stores.
It seems as I will be returning for a 5th visit.

I hadn'r received a phone call for a full day, which is rare, so I dialed out - did not connect. Verizon was unable to authenticate the phone. However, I could call my cell phone and I could receive calls. I reset the phone and contacted Verizon to give some technical assistance. We auto programmed and hand programmed the phone. Same problem. I was told that the phone was defective and I should return it back to the corporate store from where I purchased the unit.

Wanda, my technician was about as nice and helful as anyone could possibly be. She was knowledgeable and pulled out every trick in the book to try to get it to work. She did indicate that it is a rarity to get a defective phone, but it does happen.

I'm thinking about switching phones and manufacturers. I love the phone but I'm turned off with having to go back again. Thinking about Flipshot. Less technology, but it's just a phone, right?!

I have an iPhone 3G right now, it is really amazing, and has so many wonderfull features. The only complaint I have is that I need a working phone. I get dropped calls and MANY missed calls (people keep calling, but it never rings on my end). Great "I", horrible "phone". Well, it is back to Verizon for me.

Called Verizon, and they said they dont know how to sync Outlook to Dare, passed the buck and said to call LG.

Called LG www.lgmobilephones.com 800.793.8896 and they said nope, and also passed the buck saying they have a third party company working on this named Data Pilot.

Called Data Pilot www.datapilot.com CSR=866.787.8336 Tech=800.282.3678 and they passed the buck, er, no wait, they said they expect to have the contact sync released on Aug. 15th, 2008 and they are also expecting (perhaps not at the same time) to sync up calender and other media too!

I would normally wait till that is released to get the Dare, but that would be after my 30 day allowed iphone return, so I gotta make the leap of faith. The Dare is incredible, a phone, that actually makes phone calls. *drools* Hope the friends I made from the hours of waiting at Apple store enjoy the apps while I am *talking* on the phone.

The iPhone 3G is quite comfortable in my hand; I don't know what's up with yours.

Also, the area of the keyboard only means so much. I can punch out text on the iPhone's keyboard about as fast as on a hardware keyboard, and probably just as quickly as on a Dare, too. About the only advantage is the landscape mode for all text, not just the web.

The Dare does take panorama photos, too, which is appreciated. But I wouldn't give up a better web browser and music player on the iPhone just for that.