Would you consider using Linux instead of Windows or Mac OS?
by Lee Koo (ADMIN) - 2/8/07 10:33 AM
-- Yes (What's holding you back?)
-- No (Why?)
-- Maybe (What's holding you back?)
-- I already do (How do you like it?)
-- I don't know (Why not?)
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by: Lee Koo (ADMIN) February 8, 2007 10:33 AM PST
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we have it under study
by 46thchief - 2/9/07 6:44 AM
My USERs group is conducting a study on Linux. If from this class I find it is a viable alternative then my next system will run it. I have severe concerns about Vista and Microsoft's Big brother attitude. I presently run XP and will keep it as long as I have this machine. It's th next one I'm concerned about. Either Linux or MAC?
I am currently a Windows/XP user. I used to use OS/2 but that product is no longer supported. I understand that there is an "OS/2 variant" called eComStation now available; I have not explored that option yet. I downloaded Fedora Core 6 last week but had to abandon that one for the moment as I had some major problems with on on my Fujitsu Lifebook. I went with Fedora because I'd been using Ret Hat Linux 9 and been very happy with it. It ran well on a Compaq Presario notebook I used to own and had no major problems with it running on my Fujitsu Lifebook. The only major problem I had was with the lack of support for the Atheros WiFi that came with the notebook. Just yesterday, I downloaded and installed successfully, openSUSE 10.2. I am just now getting acquainted with it. Major issues? Surprisingly, Atheros WiFi, as well. I have not been able to get it to work. So I'm back in my sister's room cabled up for the moment. But so far, I'm enjoying this platform. If I can get it to do most of the things I'd like it to do, I might just forget about Windows/XP. I don't know much about the Apple/Mac platform.
Why I voted no
by jdrusk - 2/9/07 7:01 AM
I've been around long enough to see these operating systems come and go.
I have been working with computers over 30 years and remember being on ARPLANET. I've seen many OS's come and go also but they weren't open source movements. Windows is getting too prone to security risks from viruses and worms. MAC, Linux and UNIX are much safer today.
That is why I prefer Linux and not just to save a buck (which usually counts towards the bottom line.)
by blanko - 2/9/07 7:09 AM
I'd love to try Linux, but I'm loath to, unless I can switch full time. I just can't do that unless I can run photoshop on it, as this is supposed to be what I use a computer for. Yeah I know about Gimp, even Gimpshop, but it lacks a few of the features that I depend on, a real shame as I'm a complete convert to the opensource cause, and Gimpshop is amazing.
Hi blanko. Have you used GimpShop? I have been wanting to try it. What features does it lack? Thanks, Paul
by OlderThanOld - 2/9/07 7:37 AM
I've got one PC at home with multiple interchangeable hard drives. At the moment, I've got two with OpenSUSE 10.2, one running KDE and the other running Gnome. The third drive carries Windows XP Pro. I had a Windows Vista installation on one of the two Linux drives, but it was so stale when compared to what I saw in Linux that I installed the second OpenSUSE copy over it. I'm getting a great deal of fun out of digging into Linux in these two desktop environments; it's almost as much fun as when I was first learning about PCs over twenty years ago.
Here's the conclusion I've come to--if you want to be involved in what's on the leading edge of desktop operating systems, use a current distro of Linux. If, on the other hand, you want to be content with more of the same-old-same-old, only a little fancier and a _whole_ lot more demanding of your hardware, get Vista. If you just want to get your work done, play some games, and not obsess over your PC, use Windows XP, and then go out and live your life.
I actually made the switch over to Linux because my school's network forces us to use Cisco Clean Access Agent to connect via Windows, and it's a rather absurd and glitchy program. It locks up almost every time I try to log in, so I basically gave up and started dual-booting (left XP on my computer explicitly for gaming). That way I could actually get online without having to reboot one obnoxious program two or three times.
Strangely, I've had a lot of success with Linux as far as compatability, and with two distros that most people seem to shy away from: Fedora Core and Mandriva. They've both been great for me, and they have online repositories that allow you do download pre-packaged software and install it very quickly (both with a GUI and through the terminal). I had no hardware issues, except that I needed a separate package for my wireless because Atheros does not officially release it's drivers. Other than that, though, it's fast, it's stable, and I can do everything I need without fighting with my O/S. I'd say I'm in Linux 80% of the time these days, and the other 20% is just so I can play a game on Windows.
My personal opinion is that when I'm on Linux, I control my O/S, and when I'm on Windows, I'm kind of teasing it into cooperating long enough for something to get done. Just how I feel, though.
Would you consider using Linux instead of Windows or Mac OS?
by activesinger - 2/9/07 7:58 AM
The reply posted on the CNET e-mail broadcast inspired me to take the plunge; I have ordered the Knoppix 5.1 DVD-ROM to give the system a good test drive. I am really quite thrilled that I have felt able to take the first step, which is all thanks to your inspiration.
Linux is my faithful wife, Win is an old b**ch in new clothn
by btarunr - 2/9/07 8:24 AM
The Linux I have been using for the last two years, Fedora Core, has never dithched me, we've had the best of times surfing the web, communicating with people, Content creation and best of all, programming, my trade. With just a ClamAV and KDE FireStarter in place, my OS has NEVER fallen prey to ANY malware. I still get the very same performance as the day I installed the OS. I was bogged down by my friends who acted high and mighty with Windows. Half the time their internet connections are used to download security patches and AV updates. God bless Linus.T ; God bless Tux.
I love linux...and my pc loves linux
by shankru85 - 2/9/07 8:26 AM
I am still unable to understand people saying that linux is not user-friendly...any doubts download a live cd of ubuntu and test it...then u will understand...maybe certain things dont come out of the box like mp3 playing capability and certain other codecs and certain things..but it doesnt u cant set up those things..u can do it in a jiffy...all u need is a little bit of patience to go thro a couple of forums dedicated to the linux distro...ok now coming back to the hardware problem there are so many forums out there for linux who are willing to help the people...so u can just give them ur hardware details and what distro is compatible...i have found ubuntu rocking...there were periods when i had reinstalled my windows xp and i could not find my motherboard cd...just imagine this situation...i was helpless..i could not hear any audio because i could not install the driver for it and the display was awful since i could not install my display driver also...i went crazy...but my linux wow....it has the alsa for sound and there was no problem for display...now would u call this a better hardware support or ur xp??see i m not against windows or anything like that....i m trying to convince people how good an operating system linux is and an open source OS can win only when people lay their faith on it and use it..all i wud like to say is that it might be tough for a couple of days after u install linux on ur pc to get everything working but once u start getting a couple of things right u will get everything right and i promise u wud not log on to windows and for everyone's kind information all the eyecandy that has been added in windows vista has been around in the market in linux for a couple of years and has been there in Mac OS for around 6 years or so and they have been running even on low profile computers like mine...i hope i m not offending anybody by this post...i respect windows and microsoft and bill gates as much as anybody does...i m just presenting my view on the alternative to windows in this open world...hope everybody takes this post in the rite sense...
-- Yes (What's holding you back?)
by LKMcMillen - 2/9/07 8:28 AM
I've made a living based on computers since 1969. I've worked with UNIX, AOS/VS, CPM, DOS, Windows, OS/2, and Linux. I liked OS/2. The only problems I really had with OS/2 are the same as those I've had with Linux - Drivers.
If the major computer hardware manufacturers would provide (Properly written and tested) Linux drivers with their new products as they do for Windows, then Linux would flourish.
I believe that in order for Linux to become popular for personal use, it will have to first become at least as easy to install (Overall) as Windows 98SE, Windows 2000, and Windows XP. And that won't happen until the hardware manufacturers provide Linux drivers in the same box as the products they sell.
I like my Mac
by jimzim27140 - 2/9/07 8:32 AM
I switched to Mac from Windows and think its great. I can do command line if I want, but am happy with OSX. The best decision I made was switching from XP to OSx.
by Jason239 - 2/9/07 8:48 AM
Sorry. I'm a more GUI based person, much like most of America out there. Once they see how "hard" it is to find something, and it isn't right in front of them like Windows, they'll run the other way. Example, "My Documents" isn't on the Desktop. You need something, so you can do your work quick. The Linux programs/Office immitations don't do nearly any of the functions that I'd need to do except - what?!? type. Again - majority of America is GUI oriented. If you make a mainstream Linux close to Windows, sorta like SUSI, most of America might buy into that.
I have used several Linux distributions in the past and I liked all of them. The majority of them were GUI-based such as Red Hat and Mandrake, but I have used some non-GUI ones too. I love open source software for game development (such as Blender and Ogre) because they work just as well as the expensive products Maya puts out for my needs and they cost 1000 dollars less (i.e. nothing). Would I use Linux and open source software exclusively? Absolutely not.
My friends and family who are not so technically inclined often ask me, "What kind of computer should I buy?", "How do I fix this problem?", "Should I buy Vista?", "Should I upgrade my hardware?", etc., and because I provide tech support services to so many people, I'm expected to know what the latest trends are. I can't very well tell someone who asks me, "No, you shouldn't use Vista; try Linux." if I haven't used Vista myself.
It often frustrates me when die-hard open source fanatics tell their friends and families to use Linux, or when people who won't buy anything besides a Mac tell their friends to buy Macs without ever considering what the person's needs are, what their skill level is, or how willing they are to learn new systems. Here is an example of why you should consider the user's needs. My mother asked what computer she should upgrade to, I told her to buy a Mac. It would be better for her needs since she does a lot of graphical work, it runs Microsoft Office perfectly well, and she wanted to save space on her desk. However, when my fiancs mother asked me if she should upgrade to a Mac, I said no. I justified it by explaining the cost, the learning curve, and the lack of software support for the programs she uses most often, which don't come in Mac versions. I have also suggested Linux for people who don't have any problems learning new software and just need something cheap to make their computers run.
In short, each OS has its advantages and disadvantages, and recommending or using only one of them is a detriment to those who rely on you, the "technical person" for advice.
I agree completely. I also try to fit my response to the needs of the person asking (after asking them about programs they use and what they have been using so far). One size does not fit all.
The empirical frequency of that occurrence is?
You are correct when you say using one thing to the exclusion of anything else presents problems for those who would rely on a person for tech support/advice.
Still, as a DieHard(TM) Linux user (not fanatic or zealot, but a happy user) I maintain an XP and w2k machine as well -- otherwise I could not honestly say to the world what OS makes me the most productive and is the most pleasing for me to use. I purchased my sister and her family a Mac (simply nephew-proof).
The computer solutions I help others with are based upon their needs and requirements, not my personal preferences. I am frequently frustrated by people who lump all computer X users into one group.
Here is a screenshot of my Ubuntu install. Note the custom application launchers on the top panel. Very easy to add. They can be linked to folders as well, much like creating a shortcut in Windows. (Just don't need to have icons cluttering up the desktop!)
In the little drawer I have links to open my most used folders, so it's actually faster than navigating through the Start Menu - My Documents way.
You can also have multiple desktops with Linux. That can come in real handy if you have a few things going on at once!
I have a dual-boot setup with Win XP so if I can only use an app in Windows I still can. (I'm only using a little more than 10gigs fo Ubuntu and have everything I need.)
I'v never had any problems with the functionality of Linux apps. OpenOffice can do quite a bit more than just "type". (and it's not an "imitation", it's related to Sun's StarOffice. Read about it. Have you ever even tried it?) The GIMP is also an excellent program. Just because an app is free and open source doesn't mean it's substandard. I've actually found the opposite to be true.
by pscherz - 2/9/07 8:57 AM
I have tried several distros. My main issues are probably common. Windows main advantage is that I put a disk in, and install it. It loads drivers and programs, and the world is great. You need software, everyone has windows software, and the same holds true for MAC's.
Then there is Linux. Everything is over the net. Support, software, drivers, you can be at the mercy of some one on the net that may or may not know what they are talking about. I have seen fixes that made no sense.
So, while I like the concept of Linux, until some of these things stabilize, I will probably be a windows user. One other reason, I support 75 AIX systems at work and really don't want to go home and have to fix my home pc.
Linux still a experts OS
by Francisco Costa - 2/9/07 9:23 AM
While using the latest Suse Linux version in my Acer Aspire 5050 I have to struggle a lot to get Wireless Internet and graphic card to fully support 3D. But I still prefer to struggle on getting drivers and typing commands at command line than with viruses and malware.
But what are the real advantages of Linux:
- Low Cost (its free)
- All in one OS (comes with most of the software you need, OpenOffice, Gimp and so on)
- Highly customizable (for those who know a little more)
- Several flavors available (distros)
- Several GUI availabe (KDE, Gnome, XFCE, MOTIF and so on)
- 3D interfaces (Beryl and GLX)
- Secure (say goodbye to malware, spyware and viruses)
- Non-stop development (don't have to wait 5 years to see new versions)
- Great for developers (Lots of programming tools available)
The cons on Linux:
- Lack of device drivers for the most recent hardware (still havent foud a driver for my webcam)
- You have to know the command line (mainly to compile and install software)
- No too many fancy and last generation games (some games but not the big titles)
Why shouldn't anyone try Linux, its free, its doesn't require that 2000 computer that you saw in the store. You can have both Linux and Windows on the same PC. Give it a go...
Another big "con" for Linux
A big "con" is that finding and downloading software and drivers is painful. The sites often assume you know a lot about their particular style and application already. I have had many times when I installed something only to find that it did not work because "I should have known" to install something else 1st. Further, documentation is often terrible and/or out of date. It is not anyone's fault, it is just the nature of lots of people volunteering to work on a project, and some tasks are a lot less fun than others.
Thats for shure the big con
Most of the times its difficult to find drivers because sometimes they don't really exist or because there are thousands of versions for each distro, don't forget sometimes they also require all the dependecies to be installed.
Conclusion: sometimes its a big headache, but sooner or later Open Source community will make the drivers you need available and sooner or later you will understand how to install them!
Linux still an experts OS
please send an email and will try to get you the driver for your webcam. Was surprised my old Kensington Webcam worked straight out using CamStream.
An Orbicam webcam
About the webcam in my Acer Aspire 5050 I can tell its a Acer Orbicam, don't really know much more about it...
Linux still not ready for the prime time.
by bullywug - 2/9/07 10:24 AM
Don't get me wrong, there are things about each OS that I like. I like how in OSX I can keep my mail program running all the time without the window taking up real estate. I like how Windows handles pictures and video better than Mac or Linux and I really love the new start menu in Vista. Ubuntu is a very well done version of Linux and for the most part is usable with a few exceptions. First off, Grub is aweful. It is dangerious and can destroy your data very easily and without warning or anyway to undo. This is not acceptable for a main strea average user. Also, until I no longer have to compile programs for linux and modify my kernal to get things to work, it will never be a main stream os.
Linux is better than it used to be, but it still fails in critical areas. It's really run out of time to come of age. Windows and OSX are just as good in just about every way and better in many ways.
hasta la vista vista!!!!!!!!
by ebertomx - 2/9/07 10:35 AM
actually i`m testing a ubuntu SO in a pen drive, but its so easy that i`m thinking installing in the hard drive in my laptop hasta la vista vista
by cwilli8726 - 2/9/07 11:02 AM
I haven't switched to Linux because I have to remain compatible with my employer's windows software. I have installed a couple of different version of Linux but never had the time to really learn all facets.
My biggest frustration is that I cannot locate drivers and software for my printers and other equipment that takes advantage of all the features. It appears that equipment manufacturers are just not interested in including software that will run under Linux.
by sladeledu - 2/9/07 11:07 AM
well i have nothing against linux or its distros n as a matter of fact i tried my hand installing it but to no avail. Mandrake was horrible after installing it for some reason my winxp went all slug on me , it would take a good 5 minutes to open explorer n no surpise it froze frequently n i ended up formatting my hd n reinstalling windows. Then there was Ubuntu just recently , i downloaded the iso n burned it over the CD n i just loved the live version and wanted the full OS installed on my comp lil did i realise i was gonna hit the hammer on my own leg...! the install process stopped at 45 % and even after waiting an hour it wouldnt progress. i restarted the comp n thats it the system didnt even boot into windows n soon followed by the BSOD and to make things even worse it actually crashed the HDD. all the data gone n a wrecked HDD i swore to myself never to ever to touch Linux or anything with its impression on it. luckily the hdd was alive and just had to be repartioned n formatted but the all the data was still gone...!im gonna stay miles away from anything thats LINUX.
Being a programmer I do both
by gfine - 2/9/07 11:18 AM
I have been using Linux since RH 4, and Windows since 2.11. I have learned not to be too religious about what OS was better and why. As I was once a developer on OS/2 Warp, I learned this lesson well.
Being a programmer I have learned that if you are not current with technologies, programming languages, and methods it impacts both your marketability and your ability to 'do the job'.
At home and work I have both Windows and Linux boxes. I use whatever I need for the job. If it is programming I use either. For casual web browsing and e-mail I use the Winbox. For gaming I use our game console(s), and rarely use either Linux or Windows.
As 'web applications' become more popular, and are OS neutral, it will boil down to what OS will provide the best speed, services and usability.
Vista and Linux both suffer from the lack of drivers for legacy or oddball hardware. But, more and more, hardware providers are supplying both Windows and Linux drivers for their products.
In the end the choice of OS, for the general consumer, boils down to familiarity, usability, and cost. For the techie, it is whatever floats their boat for the moment.
The next best Frisbeee (re: OS) may be none of the above...
Started migrating to Ubuntu already...
by raynathompson - 2/9/07 11:25 AM
I am using Unbuntu, and all my hardware (so far) has run without so much as a hiccup. There are a few key Windows-compatible software I am addicted to, but which I have yet to try looking for a substitute (soon...soon!) or looking into trying WINE.
I simply cannot afford (not do I want to) pay for Vista for all my PCs. I don't have a problem paying for software applications to aacomplish what I want. Nor do I object to "donating" for freeware which I use, even the odd rare app, it serves my purpose.
My PC gives me plenty of "eye candy" now, and I find Ubuntu fun and easy to use. The full Vista "experience" won't even run on but two of my current PCs. Of course, I don't need it for my file server, currently running NASlite linux. But I have plans for those others, and those plans are now sealed with a sticker that says "Powered by Ubuntu".