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Type in PLASMA IMAGE RETENTION to learn about it.

And no game gets more than 60Hz frame rates so far but I can guess a consumer that didn't do the homework or wanted to believe 600 Hz rates would buy it!

This may be good news for the makers since none warrant the image retention issue.
Bob

Static images from gaming can lead to burn-in, not image retention, which is what is generally referred to as a temporary issue. Static images that have been burned into the screen (permanently) cannot be removed by built-in technologies such as a pixel orbiter (on a Panasonic, for example).

Also, news channels displaying 'ticker' type feeds/horizontal bars/non-full screen content/bars also can lead to damage to plasmas easier than you can with an LCD. The tradeoff is the LCD doesn't handle fast motion nearly as well as a plasma since it uses different technology. Don't use the 600Hz as some sort of comparison. It's a different technology, so doesn't have the equivalent on an LCD or LED model.

In my travels, I'd love it if folk could agree on terminology. But they don't. I like your definitions better but we can't change the world today. Maybe when we get our Moon base lasers powered up?
Bob

I think they do it to keep us buying, or at least looking at buying more of the same crap with only one year warranties

But I've seen ghosting on plasma too. If you are not seeing any image retention on plasma it's either you are not using games that put up static images (those heads up displays) or have the brightness turned down to blunt the effect.

See Pepe7's response as he clarifies IR versus burn in.
Bob

Well i mean ive seen image retention when i go to something else and the screen is black but ive never had anything permanent though. Thats from both movies and gaming. But i mean if it does it on both lcd and plasma then idk why you wouldnt just go with plasma anyways cause of the picture quality. I just dont like how bright lcd is compared to plasma for movies. The deep blacks make a big difference to me.

And short term IR and the even shorter term ghosting that you see.

I can't pick your set for you but gaming on plasma is not what I'd do for the reasons I gave. If you keep the brightness down you can dodge that issue.
Bob

Only during the break in period is (cranking up the brightness/contrast) really much of a worry. Otherwise, it's the static images from gaming or news tickers that can possibly get you into trouble and not the brightness per se.

...then it seems logical that you might continue to enjoy the same functionality, including great blacks/overall wonderful PQ. Hands down, for movies, in the right viewing space, plasma is still king.