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by: ffftroutbum October 17, 2009 11:22 AM PDT

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Plasma Help Please!

by ffftroutbum - 10/17/09 11:22 AM

I am in the market for a new TV (this is a little winded). I owned a house with my brother and moved for a new job. We decided that he would keep the TV, and non elite 43 inch 3 year old pioneer plasma - totally happy with BTW. So I need a new tv. Went down to the local electronics store to check out the "V" line of Panasonics since I heard that Pioneer was no longer making plasmas. Proplem is that they are out of stock and may have some in by Christmass. Went to the rest of eletronic stores in town and no one is carring the higher end plasmas. Bummer. But, when I was at Vann's, the saleman showed me two 50 inch Pioneer monitors, so no sound or tuners. The models were the elite, pro-101fd for 2.5K, and the KRP-500 for 2K. I was worried about service or if I had proplems, parts etc since they are no longer in the biz - Vanns does a 5 extended warrenty for $250 on them. Sounds pretty good and they are obligated to be in a position to servce them for the next 7 years - nice. I was really looking to buy a full Tv with the Panasonic and did not want to worry about researching getting a reciever, speakers, etc as this will be more than I wanted to spend - around 2K. But I am willing to make exceptions. So, here are my questions:
1. Do these models have the same great picture that cnet raves about with the pro-111fd? The salesman said that the these two monitors are pretty much the same TV with the elite having a few more hook-ups than the KRP.
2. Should I holdout to compare the Panasonic to them? The V series 50 inch Panasonic will be about 2.1K. Or, will both of these models just blow the panasonic out of the water for picture quality and I should buy now?
Thanks for your help!


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by jostenmeat - 10/17/09 3:10 PM

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1. Do these models have the same great picture that cnet raves about with the pro-111fd? The salesman said that the these two monitors are pretty much the same TV with the elite having a few more hook-ups than the KRP.

Yes.

The only thing that the 500M is missing is more fine tuned calibration controls, including ISFccc. HOWEVER, there is an "unauthorized" patch out there, so that you can have it! I believe it voids warranty, but that's what the videophiles are doing. Essentially, you can have perfect calibration for ALL sources, for BOTH day AND night viewing with that.

The Sig 141 is even nicer, if arguable, in the fact that they actually hand picked the panels and filters.

Otherwise, these things combined with speakers, or lack thereof, included stand or lack thereof, extra hdmi inputs, or lack thereof make the difference.

IOW, the 101/141/111/151/500/600 are all essentially the same display: The greatest flat panel ever made.

2. Should I holdout to compare the Panasonic to them? The V series 50 inch Panasonic will be about 2.1K. Or, will both of these models just blow the panasonic out of the water for picture quality and I should buy now?
Thanks for your help!

The V10 is an extremely good tv, and is actually VERY close to what a Pio can do. Still, the pro models are better than the v10 in just about every category. If only slightly. They also do better with black level retention and overall performance with higher ambient lighting than the v10.

The value electronics shootout basically had pio winning everything.

the most positive comparative review that ive seen with the v10 is by the hd guru, where they actually thought the v10 did better with black detail than their reference display, of course, a sig 141.

You could be Bill Gates, the King of Saudi Arabia, Warren Buffett, and you could not possibly own a finer flat panel tv in the world.

I stopped in recently at a Magnolia on a friend's behalf. The 141 is selling at $7000, 151 at $6500, and the 111 at about $5200.

The 500/600 are the best deals available, period.


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