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How do you explain my severe testing of three of Pioneers Plasma Models (PRO-FHD1, PDP-5070HD, PRO-1440HD), testing of which included leaving bright, colorful, paused images on all of their screens with no image burn protection activated. NONE of them received ANY image retention. Burn-in on Poneers is not an issue. I have owned Pioneer Plasmas for the past 5 years and plan on continuing to do so.
Also, FYI, LCD's "dulled surface" is prone to glare in many ways that compriamise picture and ruin a viewing experience so much that it makes small reflections the last of one's worries. LCD's bleach colors when exposed to extreme leve s of light (e.g. The Sun), their black levels show the base color (LCD's can't produce a perfect black, they use very dark colors as a base, whcih look like black under normal conditions), and Don't even get me started on how many problems LCD's are faced with in a dark room! Response Time: Gag me. Who wnats a picture full of compriamises when they can have a plasma insted?

I work at a Best Buy Electrical in Australia, and I'm very surprised by the descriptions given of various LCDs and plasmas. The TVs we get down here must be different to what you're getting in America.

We Aussies love our sport; we have our own code of football which has a lot of action. Even when watching the footy today, our LCDs didn't really look too blurry. The crowd was blurry when the camera panned, as you'd expect, but the players didn't blur much at all. The LCDs definately look sharper than the plasmas when there isn't a lot of motion, and on our Samsung TVs the motion is actually smoother than the plasmas, because of Samsung's interpolation technology.

I've never seen a plasma down here with burn-in. Not a standard def LG, a high def Panasonic, not even the lowest-of-the-low Conia plasma which has many other problems.

In addition, I've heard Americans raving about how good Hitachi plasmas are, but we had one on the floor that was utterly terrible. We had it replaced, with little improvement. It was fricking heavy, too.

And there's people saying that rear pro gives good picture quality?

It seems to me that the quality of the flat-panel TVs in America must be substandard. Until Panasonic started its campaigning down here, 80% of our customers thought that LCD gave a sharper, more defined picture, from their own experiences looking at the TVs in other shops. Now it's more like 60%, but these people are just going by what Panasonic's advertising campaign has told them.

Make sure you purchase a Samsung Plasma it has a feature
called " Pixel Move " every 5 minutes the pixels move preventing what you call " Burn In ." Plasma's must be kept cool;
HEAT is it's nemesis; have it mounted professionally and have a fan or multiple fans cooling the rear of the Plasma Screen.

If you look at the back of the screen you will notice many
openings to cool the unit; but it doesn't. It's the Motherboard
and it's components that your trying to keep cool.

This advice may be a touch late, but it is based on actual experience.

Quite some time ago purchased a 42" Samsung rear projection TV. This was the first of the slim profile models, 11" deep. It took a mere 2 months for the channel guide to burned in and was very noticeable. Despite the extended warranty I had purchased, the store (Best Buy) washed their hands of it, stating I must have caused it by leaving the channel guide on continuously. Despite proving that the channel guide automatically shut-off after 90 seconds.(well below the 23 minutes of continuous static image the instruction book warned of) both the store and Samsung would not even return any further calls or emails. I was left High dry. Several of my friends had bought Plasmas - all of them had burn-in occur to different levels. 2 had Samsung and 3 had Panasonics. In all three cases Panasonic replaced the TVs immediately, Samsumg nothing again - either did the stores.

As luck would have it my television finally and completely failed a few months later, and I replaced it with a DLP version by Samsung - under the warranty the replacement must be by the same manufacturer. The DLP is immune to burn-in and the picture after 3 years is still very good. This version is slightly deeper (13") than the slimmer versions today. And they have superior picture quality in comparison. The only issue with DLPs, to my knowledge, is that one must use a UPS to ensure the fan is not effected by sudden power outages.
Other than that the colours and blacks on todays versions are superb. And while they may not be as sexy as their more expensive counterparts I consider them to be better value for the money that the others. Oh and by the way, while the picture on my Samsung is very good, the sounds is crap, and once again I had to fix it myself by adding a sound system. I would not recommend Samgsung, but I would recommend looking at DLP.
Good luck

Buy a DLP for gaming, i have a 58" 1080P set, HP MD5880n, it has a 13,000:1 contrast ratio and it had the best picture out of all the TV's at Bestbuy and they had pioneer elite LCD's and Plasma, i have a PS3 hocked up to mine and im so happy with it.

AS THERE IS NO ABSOLUTE STANDARD for measuring them. Please don't confuse new-comers who may not know what CR stands for other than "customer relations."

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Perhaps we should ask a better question here. Will "Burn-In" occur if someone were to leave their PS3 or other console "ON" and in "Continuous Pause" for a few hours?

Now, if there are Plasmas out there that don't have such an issue, then please post the manufacturer and model number. Remember: not all TV sets are made equal, so not all TV sets have built-in protection against burn-in.

All I can recommend is searching for a TV set that has some kind of Burn-In Prevention feature like the pixel thing or going blank after a few minutes of still picture. I don't know the features' name, though.

I cannot answer this since I have not owned HD sets. But my rear-projection TV has already suffered such a fate. So I do know how Teezer feels.

If you get a Pioneer, there will be no need to worry about image retention/burn-in. I have done some very severe testing of my two Pioneer Plasmas, and my parents Pioneer Plasma. These tests basically made no burn-in at all. I had put a still, bright, colorful image on each TV in their "torch-mode" (as some of you might call it), just to make sure nothing was going to happen. Results: NO image retention! I have tried PS3 and my FHD-1 and XBOX on my 5070 and SNES on my parents PRO-1140HD. Paused. 36hrs. No retention or burn-in! Plamsa advancement Ladies and Gentlemen.

Please note that my Pioneer Plasmas (PDP-5070HD, PRO-1000HD, PRO-FHD1, PDP-5010FD, and PDP-4230HD)have all received 100-hour break-in periods with settings to dead standard (neither adding nor taking anything away from the signal, with all pro settings turned off) and power consumption set to low (or mode 2 on certain sets). After the first 100hrs of life, I have had all my panels undergo a full ISF calibration with HQV testing. I also have them all attached ro power conditioners with isolators and voltage stabilizers, using de-ionized litzwire as interconnects. This 100-hour break-in period is absolutely rutial for the survival of the panel past the 1yr marker. My concern with your FHD1, VitaminJ, is that you didn't baby it within the first 100hrs and probably didn't get a full ISF Calibration (perhaps you didn't even fool with the picture settings out of the box). This is the carelessness that allows plasma panels to continue to have this issue. Do keep in mind that the same carelessness with a tube television will result in a similar fashon. Also, anybody out there thinking to go LCD because of image retention: similar carelessness with an LCD panel will result in dead-pixels, pin striping, and fogging (e.g. XBR2 panels, Sharp 62 series panels). Also, I cannot stress enough the importance of a power conditioner. Without one, the lifespan of the television and its ability to resist image retention is nil. VitaminJ, Does your FHD1 have a power conditioner? Did it undergo the 100hr break-in as recommended by the manufacturer and several other sources? Has it undergone a full ISF calibration with HQV testing? If not, there is no wonder why the FHD1 of yours is having some image retention.

i recently got the 42'' 75U series of panasonic i just changed my picture mode to standard everything +0 flat played halo 3 sine launch day and to this day NO BURN IN!. watched a few letterboxed films no IR. then i d/l the break in disc and played it a few hrs. since i got it on he 25th noting has happend and i abused the tv so much and yet its NO IR NO BURN IN. this shows that BURN IN is almost non exisint using common sense of course you wouldnt put a movie or a game paused the whole day and not expect to burn in.