MP3 players forum: Archos 604 30GB vs. Creative Zen Vision W (30GB)

I am a Archos and Creative user and owner, I have found that the archos is better built for drag and drop over the creative but its is possible but harder to manage music in my opinion. Check out the new archos lines which are all drap and drop and you can snyc with window media even though I dont and have no plan too.

Just drag and drop into folders and then you can either play through folders you drag and droped into or via genres, title, artist, album and date in which the archos will read through all the music you have if in folders or not and search this way.

the Creative Zen V, Zen V Plus, MuVo s200 are advertised as drag and drop w/o drivers. It would be just plain dumb if you don't need drivers but still needed to install software, so I'm sure that also stands true

I am also waiting for the Archos 605 on Sept. 1st. I hate that you have to buy all these plugins and that the only way to charge it is through USB. I have been considering the Creative Zen but haven't read enough about them yet.

I don't need the DVR docking thing from Archo cause I have Tivo. I can transfer a Tivo recorded show to my desktop now I will have to buy the Tivo Desktop extra Plus thing for 20 bucks but it will let me convert the show to Mpeg4 which I am hoping it plays on this thing. It says this comes with a docking station or some adapter which I am unsure about. But if you get the docking station you get the qwerty keyboard they told me. I just want an AC Adapter where I can plug it into the wall and the Archos and have it charge do they make one? Be nice if this had blue tooth to use blue tooth headphones.

Ok I am going to read some stuff on the Zen also and make my decision before the new Archos comes out on 9/1. Rose