Lets see what we have...
by boya84 - 12/13/13 6:47 AM
In Reply to: Sorry by PhilVerley
You tell us you are a beginner basing your requirements on specs of dSLR cameras designed to capture still images that happen to have video and audio capture capability as a "convenience feature". While weighing the merits of whether wifi and GPS or pop-up flash - which have little to do with video capture (which has nothing to do with "film") - you asked for our opinion to nudge the decision in one direction or another. Fair enough.
I don't think you should get either one. They are not designed to capture video. They will overheat and shut down after about 20 minuted of continuous video or "live view". They have a file length limitation. Audio control (assuming you want to use the audio recording capabilities of the camera rather than an external recorder) is very limiting because it is burned in a menu. Lens noise can be recorded by the internal mics. There's more, but when using a device not designed for the stated use requirement, there are workarounds you will need to address.
This does not mean that dSLRs can't capture good video - they can. But their shortcomings need workarounds and are less straightforward than using a device's proper design elements. As you said you already know, it is the not the camera, but the user. When the right equipment is used, that can help the user do the task. Assuming you have already discounted actual camcorders designed to capture video to do the job for you, that leaves you with a relatively new family of gear that use dSLR type sensors, can provide a good depth of field, have interchangeable lens systems and are designed to capture video. The Canon EOS Cinema Cam family (C100, C500, C500), Sony NEX-VG series, NEX-EA series, Panasonic AG-AC series, Blackmagic Design Cinema Cam and a few others would be much more appropriate for your stated purpose. And the Canon and Sony series can also capture still images quite well.
Yes, these cams are a bit more than you want to spend... but we also don't know if your budget also includes a decent tripod or other steadying devices (camera crane, vest-type Steadycam system, dolly/track system and others), lighting kit (on camera or otherwise), mics (no single best mic, a good shotgun and a good wireless lavaliere are a starting point), external audio recording gear (I like the Zoom H4n and some of the Fostex gear), power supplies, cables and lots of other stuff. Obviously, one need not get all this stuff at once, but if this has not already been considered, please at least provide a cursory look.
You asked for opinions. Bob provided one. It appears you already know what you want and are looking for some validation and justification for a decision based on technical items that 99.999% of viewers will not care about. Worrying about specific technical settings for equipment that is not primarily designed to do what you want is a bit like expecting a sedan to do the job of a pickup truck...
I did not think you were rude as I cannot hear the inflections of your typing. If I seem that way, it is not my intent, but I do want to be straightforward about the information provided and am willing to share (from experience and observation).
The dSLRs you are looking at should not be treated as a camcorder replacement. In my opinion, you should consider either reducing your requirements and flip a coin to determine the selection from your short list or increase your budget and invest in the correct tool for the started requirement(s)...
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