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PC hardware forum: Intel desktop 2nd gen +a GPU VS 3rd gen + it's built-in GPU?

by: slow235comp November 24, 2012 1:22 PM PST

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Intel desktop 2nd gen +a GPU VS 3rd gen + it's built-in GPU?

by slow235comp - 11/24/12 1:22 PM

I read the main difference between 3rd and 2nd gens are that the gfx in the 3rd are about 40% better, but besides that, performance is about the same. Some 2nd gens can actualy OC better than 3rd gens. There's a new technology like multithread/hyperthread/something I forgot, that 3rd gens can do that 2nd can't but is only found in high-end programs/games/VSTs, and I don't need that.

All I want for now is a PC for moderate DAW use, HD video editing with no problem, play low-end games like counter strike global with no problem, super fast internet surfing and so I can actually research things cause this PC's ancient, and I'll read up on how to build a PC if needed and sell the one I get.

So, If I get a 2nd gen intel would I need to add gfx? I don't suppose you can tell me which the least expensive one I should get it? I'm hoping to get just a tower for about $400. Will a 2nd gen i3 be okay, or get an i5? How much better is a desktop 2nd gen i3 with no GPU than a laptop 3rd gen i7 with it's HD4000 gfx?
I apolagize for asking so many basic questions, my computer's bascially scrap metal.


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Because you mentioned the game and DAW,

by R. Proffitt Moderator - 11/24/12 3:21 PM

In Reply to: Intel desktop 2nd gen +a GPU VS 3rd gen + it's built-in GPU? by slow235comp

I would never consider a GMA or UMA video system. You will encounter folk that are trying to talk themselves into some Intel UMA/GMA but gamers, even with Intel's latest are not happy.

But if you want to try it again, go right ahead. I will not do more than this as the topic is well worn and all I can do is warn folk off when they want to play a game.

Even the entry level Nvidia 630 or such is a step up.
Bob


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situation solved

by slow235comp - 11/25/12 12:32 AM

In Reply to: Because you mentioned the game and DAW, by R. Proffitt Moderator

thanks for all your help.


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solved

by slow235comp - 11/25/12 12:55 AM

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thanks for helping


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by slow235comp - 11/29/12 6:12 PM

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solves most everything:
games playable with with built-in Intel HD4000/25000 graphics:
http://www.intel.com/support/graphics/in...033387.htm

HD video play/editing depends on CPU more than GPU.

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_list.php
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/common_cpus.html
DAW music production software benchmarks:
http://www.adkproaudio.com/benchmarks.cfm

"Those are PassMark benchmark scores. PassMark is a benchmarking software which runs the CPU through many stress tests like
read/write operations, math calculations, and graphics processing. People who run PassMark can submit the score they got with
their processor so those charts are showing the average submitted scores for each processor. I wouldn't read into the overclocked processor charts much because they include mild overclocks as well as extreme overclocks, and there's no way to know how overclocked the processor was when it got the given score. If you really want to see specific scores, you can click a processor from the list and it will show the last 5 submitted scores along with information like RAM, measured speed, hard drive, graphics card, etc."


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I've seen that before.

by R. Proffitt Moderator - 11/29/12 6:25 PM

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And later the gamer is still upset by UMA/GMA.

Let me comment about video editing. We started to get great HD playback way back in the Core2Duo days. Anything past that is gravy. And speeds up our editing. Does little for the gamer.

I'm sure you read the following.
"Our tests demonstrate fairly little difference between a $225 LGA 1155 Core i5-2500K and a $1000 LGA 2011 Core i7-3960X, even when three-way graphics card configurations are involved. It turns out that memory bandwidth and PCIe throughput don't hold back the performance of existing Sandy Bridge-based machines. "
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-overclock,3106-4.html

As I may have noted you will encounter folk that want to learn this one first hand. You can't help them.
Bob


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