Networking & wireless forum: Will SSH work with Android via Mobile Network(s)?

Based on the following link, it looks as if it IS possible to port forward a SSHD
on Windows XP......



http://customer.comcast.com/Pages/FAQViewer.aspx?seoid=What-ports-are-blocked-by-Comcast-High-Speed-Internet&AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1

Here I can put it on any port. In fact, why not change it to be just a tad more secure?

over 1024? for example

The final question is the setup of the server.

I have a residential account - I think a Comcast business account is required to
set up and run a web server.

I want SSH secure Internet access, I need to access both and Internet server and a SSH server on the same
machine- correct?

Why you think this and whether you are fretting about this or not.

Many have setup servers but the ISPs have looked the other way unless you try and go commercial and sell stuff.

And since we can use DYNDNS and use another port, why are you thinking there is anything to stop what you want to do?
Bob

I am confused about whether or not I need to set up an Internet server or not if
I am outside my home network and want ssh access to the Internet.


The app SSH Tunneling (Android Market) gives the user SSH Internet access.

It seems too simple to just configure a Windows SSHD on my home PC via
port forwarding and get all that safe Internet power.....

Doesn't make sense to me, I guess.

We see that we can put any server on any port. That should be confusing.

We know that if we keep away from being commercial, the ISP looks the other way.

But why would we think there is a safe internet?
Bob

I see your point.

Thank you.

I just had to make this general comment after you
raised the question about whether we should think of
the internet as safe (at all!)

Security on the Internet does seem like an oxymoron -
and becoming more so every day.

Having said that, I am reminded when I used to do a fresh Linux install
and the "what level of network security" do I want to select.....

One of the levels was "PARANOID"

Now, it seems that this level of network security is the norm, that
every developer now must build in so many layers of encryption
as to practically render their apps so weighted down due to this security
issue that it must burden them beyond belief.

My real question to you is this.

If I work in a company with heavy computer network security,
and I want to use a SSH tunnel or a Wifi to get to the Internet
at work, are IT security people able to now eavesdrop
on my Internet activity almost out of the air?

Now, that's ridiculous paranoia - or is it?

You tell me!

That is usually a question for the IT staffers. Most of the time it's not allowed because it's a possible route of something bad getting past the defenses.

The same story applies to memory sticks that folk carry in.

Frankly I think folk should not break any company rules on this. Their network, their rules.
Bob

With regards to networks at work.

What about Wifi in the public domain.

I assume you're saying that, in reality there is no safe
place to be totally free of Internet snoopers.

This is a disturbing reality I can't seem to shake off.

No safe surfing?

I don't know....

Since the beginning I never trusted wifi open networks you see out there. For years I knew about packet sniffing since I was designing electronics and firmware that did such things. Then meant I would never do much other than read the news on open wifi.

And I was very late to accept buying things on the net. And even then I never do so on open wifi.

Bob

phones, Android and iPhones.

Are there new generations of hackers waiting to explode onto
the scene with claims of having hacked everyones new toys
like these?

http://www.google.com/search?q=The+Baseband+Apocalypse finds it.

Years ago when base stations were in the 6 figure price range that made it part of the security "package."

What happened was the protocols and such were not well done and we are beginning to see issues develop. The major players are attempting to fix all this as well as play down concerns.

What stops them cold from a solid fix is the millions of handsets and base stations that would have to be changed.
Bob

This thread is reaching Pluto.

Now that the major players have "their" infrastructures in place,
seems that the same principles should get their GSM security
in place, too.

But that would be too costly!

Better to make more dough that prevent the apicalypse
be reinvesting in better and more bullet proof mobile
networks.

and in the most idiotic way possible. The original question:
why can't you just do ssh through the default port over
the cellular network? (apologies for shouting but some people are
like....really deaf) but SSH IS RSA ENCRIPTED SO THAT PACKET
SNOOPER BETTER BE ABLE TO BEAT TMRSA ENCRIPTION
AND WADE THROUGH AN AWEFUL LOT OF CRAP TO GET
MY CREDIT CARD NUMBER...and oh....wait...my
CELLULAR PROVIDER WHICH IS ONE IF THE MOST
USCRUPULOUS ******** ON THE PLANET
ALRADY HAS MY CREDIT CARD NUMBER, BOB
so....you were juzt saying....?

The conversation did move to security concerns and so it did change from the opening topic.

As this is quite an old discussion it is now closed.