Desktops forum: American made computer

Doubtful. That's the word I would describe about the PC and Apple machines. Designed in America, but made elsewhere.

http://www.crito.uci.edu/GIT/publications/pdf/dell.pdf tells the story better than I can.

Bob

It's too bad! I reluctantly realize that I can't get all-American made components, but I'd be happy if most were!

It is from microcenter. Made in USA. I have one. There is NO documentation for it found anywhere on the web, no technical data sheets, no one else uses it, it looks weird and fails to provide good voltages.

Neat huh?!

From my experience all american made electronics (save maybe some speakers) suck.

[/Pride]I am American.

I have found that if you look you can usually find US made stuff-- even computers. For computers, there's polywell.com, I'm looking at buying one of the PC there), and supermicro.com that make their own motherboards.

I'm trying to do my part in keeping manufacturing jobs in the US by buying US made goods.

You should seriously reconsider what VM does. No where does it state it makes 100% USA computer BUT rather it really assemblies the computer from parts which in turn are made not from USA manufacture. The CDs, HDs, monitors, cases, etc. are usually made somewhere else, I thought even the screws are made here. Probably the only item made in the USA is the VM logo badge. -----Willy

It isn't possible, I get the whole "lets support america" thing, but really, it doesn't matter that much. The majority of "high level" computer hardware (silicon devices) comes from Germany, Japan, the United States, or Taiwan, the majority of everything else comes from Taiwan, Thailand, or China, it isn't just cheaper labor practices that create the outsource, its the availability of engineering students, trained technicians, government help (for example AMD relocated primary fabrication from Texas to Germany, because the German government offered tax incentives and a good region for building; and because theres an abundance of engineers and employees).

Polywell and Velocity Micro claim "100% made in america", which is entirely untrue, ECS Group manufactures something like 40% of motherboars worldwide, most of which come straight out of Shenzhen, the majority of hard-drives worldwide see a factory in Shenzhen, Singapore, Malaysia, or Thailand, the majority of LCD monitors see Korean or Chinese foundaries.

Basically, the majority of computer parts come from only 10-15 companies, and are rebadged quite a bit before they ever see the United States market (just like how Acura isn't really a car company, its just a name that Honda throws on cars to upsell them for US consumers).

I'm not trying to rain on patriotism, I'm just trying to speak to the global market, not everything can be had from the US, and in most cases, its not always the best to be had from the US (consider, if you buy an Intel chip you're still supporting an american company, which contributes to the US economy, but this company also operates in other locations, such as Israel, so by helping this company turn a profit, it allows it to continue operations around the world, which help other national economies).

So, I'd just go to what Willy said, get the best system you can based on performance, price, warranty support, etc, you could even build it yourself.

OK all you naysayers....I understand that the parts may not be manufactured here but at the very least we can speak with an American about sales or issues and actually have someone on the other end not only understand what we are saying, but they do not repeat it 10 times before switching us to someone else who hasn't clue...so with all of this said...I am only buying from companies that DO NOT OUTSOURCE, and are actually headquartered in the USA....whatever we can do to support the people here in this country so they can stay off the unemployemnt line, and feed their families, is a good thing....every little bit helps, and I know that one person can and does make a difference...

PULEASE....either you are not American or you have money invested in outsourcing. Talk to any intelligent, sane, patient person who has spent literally half of their life trying to get someone to understand their problem while conversing with an outsourced company and they will SCREAM at what you have written. You can say whatever you want, whoever you are, but the truth of this outsourcing is the truth. I know that I ALWAYS get polite, professional customer service when an AMERICAN is on the phone, not the other way. They are all reading from a script and if you deviate, they haven't a clue and all this does is frustrate the consumer. Do whatever you want to do, but we have made a stand and we are sticking to it...all 300 of us at the moment...will not be purchasing from any companies that outsource... we are going to start a trend...and we are passing this to everyone we know, and they know and so on, etc. et al. Eventually as AMERICANS, we will make a difference and we will bring back employment, and food to a nation that is sorely lacking in both. So you may continue with your rhetoric, because thankfully, AMERICA is a free country....

From your response, we all now know where you are not from...America...just live here and gain from everything we have to offer and then beat us up for helping everyone in the entire world...sorta like biting the hand that feeds you...get out your aggresion and hatred and try helping someone instead of hating them...can you imagine if every person just stopped for one minute to help another what an amazing world this would be... just so you know, this is my LAST posting. I am done...I am concentrating on my job...which will surprise you...feeding hungry families...yes, that is what I do...
Now why don't you do a random act of kindness today, you will be amazed at how good you will feel.
Bye bye...

The desire to buy American products is not by nature backwards or isolationist as you make it sound. The flood of US dollars pouring into China is funding a massive military build-up that threatens to alter the course of world events. The Chinese are hacking US corporate and government sites, blinding our spy satellites with ground based lasers, and polluting the atmosphere on a scale that defies belief. Ten per cent of all our food now comes from China including half our seafood and eighty percent of our apple sauce!
All this so corporations can mke billions and the rest of us can have all the toys we want at a bargain price. This isn't the global economy. It's an addiction, pure and simple.

Just signed up so I can reply to this thread also. I just had to take a thomas the train toy from my kid because it got recalled for lead paint and that was the nail in the coffin on Chinese products. I'll never give another dime to China until they clean up their act, go democratic, and reform their oppressive labor practices.

On the topic of computers ... there's actually a couple of companies making cases in the states. One of them is Mountain Mods (http://www.mountainmods.com/) - they make high end aluminum and acrylic cases. The other company is California PC Products (http://www.calpc.com/).

I'd be interested in finding a list of where companies manufacture parts. Does one exist somewhere? I realize it's impossible to build an all American computer, but I think it makes sense to support countries with similar political beliefs and those who have at least a semblance of worker protection .

To have all of a Nations computer equipment made within another country puts that country at risk during a time of crisis. It is in our own best interest to recover some of these lost industries. I would include the textiles business and the television industry as well. We are fools to continue to completely rely on others for these essential products and services.

Systemax! Made in Ohio, w/American parts and American Labor!!! You can even understand them because they only speak English! I first saw it on "Tiger Direct" then went to their website, sent them an email,got an immediate reply, and ordered the latest, fastest machine at an outstanding price! I'm a teacher and did my homework, it's the best!

I know some computer companies that make computers in America. Even though Dell, HP, and all other top leading brands make computers in other countries, specialized companies like Digital Storm and Realm Computers make their computers in the U.S.

Even though some components are not made in America, it is the closest that you can get to an American made computer.

The two companies that I have listed are really good companies and the fact that they are made in the U.S. makes them even more reliable as they are not being shipped across many seas.

The websites of Digital Storm and Realm Computers are listed below. Also check out reviews about the two companies as they are much higher than that of the major brands.

http://digitalstormonline.com/
http://www.realmcomputers.com/