Desktops forum: Why is AMD Quiet

Most Motherboards for intel cpus are manufactured by others as well...

about 2 months ago. Their stocks jumped $3.00 a share that day. I wonder why!?!

Fox news finacial report

It is all about corporate politics and the almighty $$ business relationships and exclusivity. Why does a manufacturer offer only one type of processor? Many things foremost cost

Intel made a deal with Dell years ago that they would get first dibs on all stock if they only sold Intel powered systems. Remember when there were shortages for all other venders, except for Dell. Purely business. Personally I'll never buy a packaged Desktop.

Dell...

Seriously, do you really think it's gonna be better than their other crapola PCs? A piece of junk with AMD in it is still a piece of junk... -_-

Hardly. I suppose you were born a genius? Everyone starts their learning curve somewhere. (And some people tend to end theirs sooner) A basic computer, R&D'd to death and built to be STABLE only is what a Dell is. No OCxing, nada. Goof Proof. Why not offer that cheaply to the masses? If you're game, go build. That takes experience. I purchased a Dell thru E-Bay and got a new system for pennies on the dollar. The result...a solid, plain vanilla PC that works well. Why not? For gaming, I'll use a rig on the edge. But for now my pennies are well used for my kids .
As far as this discussion is concerned with (remember?), AMD puts their money into developing quality, not quantity. I hope they get big and give Intel a run for the money. Personally, I would think less of AMD if they started to saturate the market like Intel does, but being in busines means going for the money. And targeting niche users is not in the majority.

market because of their high quality and reliability (they've tied or won in the PC Magazine survey for both laptops and desktops virtually every year for the last decade plus). My own university is standardized on Dell -- we have more than 6,000 of them, and when we ouitsourced computer support to a commercial oinformation service support company, they're standardized on Dell, too.
-- Dave K.

The main reason is because Intel and AMD focuses on different areas. Intel works on improving clock speeds, which to the average computer buyer, it looks good to. The truth is, even though AMD's Athlon64 3200 is only 2.0 ghz, it still competes with an Intel Pentium 4 at 3.0ghz (maybe some more too). I'm not saying Intel is bad or anything. Both companies are good, but they have different focuses on speed. And Since they are both faster in different areas, AMD is faster in some applications and Intel another. Gamers typicaly choose AMD over Intel because they are cheaper and faster in the gaming criteria. Unless you are a person that uses the computer for basic music and internet browsing, choose AMD.

Like it's "buddy" software giant, Intel uses "coercive" marketing practices to keep market share. Now with Apple switching to Intel CPUs, it may be tougher for AMD to gain market share.

Having been in the "business" now since well before there was a "PC" on a desktop, I watched as Intel one the battle over the Zilog chips that also were superior to what Intel made. The old Zilog Z80 was much superior to the Intel 8080, even the Z80000 which was a 32-bit CPU that was offerd BEFORE Intel/IBM got the first PC on store shelves, AT&T and Olivetti (Italy) produced a 32-bit workstation (probably running Unix) that was light years ahead of Intel and Motorola.

Mobil Oil bought Zilog months prior to the IBM/Intel PC was marketed. In fact, from the early days, IBM wanted to compare the two companies offerings, however, MObil sacked many of the engineers at Zilog, and when IBM started inquiring about the Zilog chip capabilities, nobody from Mobil could answer, so it was by default that Intel won the war. I even built a PC clone using a Zilog processor and it was 2 times as fast as the Intel machine that IBM was selling at the time. I used that old PC for years before "upgrading" to a "486" Intel PC, and it wasn't until I got my first Pentium 4 machine that I felt I was getting any value from what Intel offered. Then along came the AMD K6 and K7 CPU and I switched to AMD.

One other note of significance: When AMD started touting their CPUs as faster than Intel with slower clock speeds, Intel pooh poohed that as a "cheap marketing ploy" however Intel bagan using that same ploy when it realeased its Hyper Threading technology. The same technology that AMD had built into its new processors.

For me, it's simple. AMD makes a better CPU and the world will not "buy" it because they belive the hype from Wintel, that they are the CPU gods, and PC vendors must pay homage to them.


Fred M.
Systems Administrator (and Chief Cook & Bottle Washer)
Corvallis, Oregon