Win XP Defrag OR Norton Speed Disk?
by dromel - 1/19/05 1:06 PM
Does anyone have a strong opinion as to which prog is more efficient, Win XP Defrag OR Norton Speed Disk?
I feel that I should be consistent in only using one, or the other.
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by: dromel January 19, 2005 1:06 PM PST
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Best defragging utlity
After trying several utilities (including Norton) I have found that Diskeeper is by far the best.
DISKEEPER IS TOPS
Do not fool with either, trash them for DISKEEPER. It is the greatest. There is no comparing. You will be amazed with the results.
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I have used diskeeper for years with right now, 3 different computers. In the past, the defragger supplied with the windows operating system was slower than molasses in Janaury. I have been using diskeeper 8.0 for the past year or so, and it worked really good, but just recently downloaded diskeeper 9.0. That also is an excellent product, and I will do the upgrade for about $20. It is really fast, and with the later versions of diskeeper, have never had a problem. You can run them in screensaver mode, and keep you disk with minimum fragmentation. If you can't upgrade, the new version is about $50, but it is still worth it. It is a lot more enjoyable to work with a computer that has minimum fragmentation. Probably a lot of things other than the windows supplied version will be OK. Remember, most of the things that microsoft provides with Windows XP is only a stripped down version of a better product.
Don't put all your eggs in one basket.
I use Nortons for anti-virus and defragging. For me, it's a matter of trust. I've used Nortons for many years and they have never let me down. As a matter of fact, I believe and thank Nortons for helping me defeat viruses and repair problems on my computers dating back well before windows came into being. I have always used their System Works, ever since they came out with it. I especially like their Windoctor. I don't believe their is any other program that can check active X as well as nortons. I use windoctor in combination with Registry Mechanic (another great program) to keep my windows registry free of errors.
if you are using norton and registry mechanic together, you are tying up a plethora of resources, and are probably experiencing some extremely long boot times, as each competes for resources to load. I'm not knocking either product, but wonder if maybe running them both is overkill, as each of these are very hungry critters when it comes to using system resources.
None... they are way too slow
Use diskeeper, it is super fast, efficient and it won't hog your processor while defragging. You can schedule when to do it even if working at the time and you won't even notice.
I dumped Norton's and always hated window's. They are too slow and offer no advantage at all.
It is the best defragger out there.
Choice of defrag program
Try Executive Software Diskeeper, it really whizzes along and will defrag in the background while you are in 'Screensaver' mode, will also defrag two disks simultaneousely. Windows defrag is a 'crippled' version of this software
so, i have read these threads, and it seems like diskeeper and perfect disc are the best choices, so which of these would get the most votes for a third-party defragger?
i tried roxio registry mechanic, back in the win95 days, and it ate so much of the machines resources (back then), that it literally killed it within two weeks, so, i know, from experience, that it will probably want more of my machine than i willing to give it, and, as, previously stated about norton, once there, you cannot make it leave, regardless of what you try to do, it seems worse than some spyware, as far as coming back and creating even more headaches.
unfortunately, HP felt it necessary to include norton on my wife's new machine, and am going through the eradication struggle all over again. everytime i think i'm done with it, SURPRISE!, three weeks later i get another nag from them!!!
Diskeeper 9 is much improved.
Just upgraded to Diskeeper V9 an it's much improved. They seem pretty good at incorporating some of my feedback that I had given to them about their product in the past. Like having a way to stop it from the tray when it starts up. Or to not start it up if there is heavy disk IO going on. Plus I complained that in the past that while it was running that it hogged up to much resources and windows became unresponsive. Appears to be much better so far.
use neither as VoptXP is fastest in world
for absolute speed VoptXP is definitely fastest defragmenter using XP & 98SE etc
but Perfect disk has Offline Defragmenting for XP
Directories & Pagefile etc, which others do not have
Plus it sets up files for faster bootups
so its use VoptXP speedy but at least once a month use
Pefect Disk for best defragmenter available
Byee retired techie Keith
Win XP Defrag of Norton Speed Disk
Defrag XP ?
Diskeeper 9 does the job set it and leave it.
Download a free trail and try it is worth the time.
I agree with jabarnut. I.ve used windows, Diskeeper, & Norton, all too slow. Perfect Disk if fast and accurate; you usually always end up with a "perfect disk", i.e., zero fragmented files.
Win XP Defrag OR Norton Speed Disk
Both are slow. The good thing about Norton is it is it's options (1)to place your pagefile at the head of the drive, and (2)consolidate all your folders in the front. I use Norton Speed disk only when I want to do both things. I avoid Win Defrag like poison.
For normal system maintenance I use only Executive Software's Diskeeper Professional 9.0. which keeps all six of my drives defragmented, checking and running whenever the screensaver is running. It also keeps tabs on your swapfile and MFTs sizes, recomends changes and will make the changes for you.
I highly reccomend Diskkeeper!
Here is the best one that i found
I tried many programs. I even bought some, and it was not doing the job the way i wanted. One Day, i found
the program called " Diskeeper ". I buy the Software, and now, in my case, i have a screen Saver; and in the
Diskeeper program, there a place that you can change some configuration; and they have a name called " Set it, and forget it" . Everytime my screen Saver is on, Diskeeper does the Job, and it's quick; you don't wait 1/2 Hr to have a Defrag. This mean, that every time your on the Screen Saver for not more than Five Minutes, eveything is Defrag. You have other Settings you can go, and set Diskeeper to do your Defrag fast and Easy. I Garantie that if you buy this software, you will have every Penny that you spent to have this Software.
Win XP Defrag
Win XP Defrag is good, but not fast. I give it a 7 in rang 1 to 10. Norton Speed Disk is better. I give it a 9. Someday we will have somthing better.
Try Raxco Perfect disk
I use Raxco Perfect Disk... extremely fast.. low overhead and a multitude of options.
Its a pity we cant keep to the subject!!
Perhaps we can start another discussion on the other Defrag programs!!
I use both (Norton and Win) and I spent most of an hour hoping to get some good information ON THE SUBJECT!!
I switch from one to the other when I want to shake things up.
Each program arranges things differently. Norton allows you to put things at the beginning of the disk or at the end. Example: I put my Email etc at the end.
Win will undo it all.
I have never timed them but both seem to work fine.
Norton AntiVirus is another subject.
Raxco Perfectdisk 7-try the 30 day trial
I can't believe that someone actually wrote that defragging doesn't help. Well, what you don't know can hurt you and slow down your pc.
I used the trial from Raxco and was absolutely amazed at how much faster my computer booted into XP Pro and operated.
I had always defragged with V-Com S/S Utilities so it wasn't like my files were a mess(or so I thought).
I bought PD7 ASAP. Money well spent!
PS Read Raxco's whitepaper on why their product is better. Very Interesting.
Diskeeper by Executive Software
Is the best for me. It works easily and I find it great.
For an all in one I use Fix it Utilities 5
Try System Mechanic 5 Professional
I dumped my Norton Utilities and rarely use any of Window's Utilities now that I discovered System Mechanic.
It does things to clean your drives that Norton and Windows only scratch the surface.
SM's defrag not only clusters the programs back into one spot, it also places all the used drive space in the center, leaving the outside of the drive clear.
The first time I defragged with SM, it took about 3 days to complete!
SM's AntiVirus is superior to Norton, as it found 5 trojans that Norton had overlooked.
There are lots of other utilities that make this software the best bang for the buck. Best of luck.
I spend 8% of the time working out little kinks in the registry simply because I install / uninstall quite often, spyware, malware and norton full system scan. I still have Norton Internet Seurity 03' but looking over Norton system works 06' I feel the need for updating because I am a security minded kinda of a male.
I did not feel comfortable with WinXP PRO defrag utility, I felt the defrag was a major underacheiver.
So, I searched and compared different defrag utilities. I decided on 'PerfectDisk Pro 7.0', it costs a few bucks but I felt it performed very well.
Lets face it!! If any one person looks often and becomes familiar with any system we can add our opinion. The above utility works well for me, it may not be your cup of green tea.
Well, find what you are looking for and just look around and research if your in no hurry.
Diskkeeper or XP Defrag
I was using Diskkeeper and was not getting a full defrag.
I tried XP and still was not getting a 100% defrag.
I finally uninstalled Diskkeeper and tried XP's defrag. Finally I got a 100%.
I wonder if you should have Diskkeeper with XP defrag.
All works fine and faster since the first 100% defrag.
experience with norton...
I have used Norton System Works in the "PAST". Yes it is a good program suite. However I've found it to be a resource hog. I prefer not to use it. XP defrag works just fine. Also for home users Avast antivirus has been great for me. The price...FREE! I also use tune-up utilites 2004 for my registry and microsoft antispyware beta to keep the snoops out...my system runs superb! I don't think I would use anything else at this time. Non-xp users...add zone alarm to the mix.
Win XP Defrag versus Norton Speed Disk
I have used both Win XP Defrag and Norton Speed Disk.
I do not prefer either of these to keep my drives operating smoothly. I use Diskeeper after several failures while using both of the other programs. I have Norton SystemWorks 2005 installed and do not use Speed Disk because of its unreliability.
I'd rather use Diskeeper 9 than Speed Disk. I have both and Diskeeper is much faster and is more reliable than Speed Disk. You can even schedule defrags when your computer needs it with Diskeeper. And it's even faster than Speed Disk. I have nothing against Norton because I've been using their softwares for over 5 years and I still plan on using them, I just have my own opinions.
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I use bothe the utilities. I think Norton Speed disk utility is wee bit better.
Another vote for diskeeper
Windows uses a lite version of diskeeper. Their paid version is a lot better and can be scheduled to run in the background while you are using your computer. It also has a smart feature so it will only defrag when necessary. The download version is only $19.99.
Click on this link for more information.
Reply to: Another vote for diskeeper
Agree with recycle_Bin, we defrag our servers and workstations with Diskeeper and its doing a great job. On my home PC i run the Built in XP tool, which one cant deny is slow, wud defntly be a good thing to use the automatic one as frag levels are kept under check and one doesnt need to bother every now and then (which is a pain)