Read Feinstein's bill ...
then say that with a straight face Josh.
The discussion should not be about banning weapons of any sort but about Congress LACKING any authority to do such a thing because Congress was forbidden to infringe upon the right to keep and bear arms equivalent to those of the military.
The Second Amendment was placed in the Bill of Rights because the delegates to the Ratification Conventions DEMANDED them as a pre-condition to ratification. The Founders told the worried citizens who had just fought a war and were concerned about this new government treating citizens as King George did that the new government had LIMITED POWERS and had no power to do ANY of the acts the Bill of Rights forbid any government authority over.
The firearms under discussion are the very type of arms that the founders had in mind, arms equivalent to those carried by American or Foreign soldiers.
Tench Coxe of Pennsylvania even indicated in his statement that the founders anticipated technological advances because during their own lifetimes they had seen such - "Who are the militia? Are they not ourselves? Congress have no power to disarm the militia. Their swords and every other terrible implement of the soldier, are the birthright of an American . . . . The unlimited power of the sword is not in the hands of either the federal or state governments, but, where I trust in God it will ever remain, in the hands of the people." --Tench Coxe in The Pennsylvania Gazette, Feb. 20, 1788
"[T]he people are not to be disarmed of their weapons. They are left in full possession of them." --Zacharia Johnson, speech in the Virginia Ratifying Convention, 1788
"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms. . . disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. . . Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." -- Jefferson`s "Commonplace Book," 1774-1776, quoting from On Crimes and Punishment, by criminologist Cesare Beccaria, 1764
"The said Constitution [shall] be never construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the press, or the rights of conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms." -- Samuel Adams, delegate to Massachusetts` U.S. Constitution ratification convention, 1788
And George Mason of Virginia sounds like he anticipated Obama and crowd - "If, at any time, our rulers should have unjust and iniquitous designs against our liberties, and should wish to establish a standing army, the first attempt would be to render the service and use of militia odious to the people themselves--subjecting them to unnecessary severity of discipline in time of peace, confining them under martial law, and disgusting them so much as to make them cry out, "Give us a standing army!" I would wish to have some check to exclude this danger; as, that the militia should never be subject to martial law but in time of war. I consider and fear the natural propensity of rulers to oppress the people. I wish only to prevent them from doing evil. By these amendments I would give necessary powers, but no unnecessary power. If the clause stands as it is now, it will take from the state legislatures what divine Providence has given to every individual--the means of self-defence." -- Virginia`s U.S. Constitution ratification convention, 1788
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