Romney - Caymen Islands bad
by TONI H - 2/14/13 4:18 AM
Jack Lew....not so much.
I really hope Hagel, Brennan, and Lew all get blocked.
by: TONI H February 14, 2013 4:18 AM PST
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I'm thinking what's being suggested
is that Obama's pick for Treasury secretary is the kind of person whom he'd just criticized in this past election...that being Mitt Romney...as a quasi tax evader.
And some argued that Romney was OK using offshore
Now the shoe is on the other foot and it's not OK for Obama to pick someone that does what Romney did..and THEY are the hypocrites?
You're a hypocrite and I'm not.
Did I make a judgement?
Nope. But I think it's fairly common for folks to tolerate in one person what they criticize in another. It's not a new concept. Maybe it's better to be consistent and maybe not. Certainly it doesn't always win votes. I used the term "bleating approval" when describing the cheering section at the presidential inauguration and did so for a reason. We know what bleats and follows their leader blindly.
RE: We know what bleats and follows their leader blindly.
AND you know that without making a judgement.
You're not part of 'we", correct?...IF you were, you'd be making a judgement.
There are many more reasons
to not allow Lew as Treasurer.......he's the one who killed the 'big deal' between Boehner and BO by demanding at the last minute an additional $400 M in tax revenue, causing Boehner to walk away. He's also the one who said under oath that BO's budget or Obamacare (can't remember which one right now) wouldn't add any money to the deficit or national debt, just to name a couple of issues.
And, yes, BO is a hypocrite.....always has been, always will be. If he didn't think Romney could be trusted because of a Cayman Island account, why should he think Republicans should trust Lew to be TREASURER because of HIS investments there? BO is the one who raised this as a huge issue........
While each of your factual elements may be correct
the connections and the conclusions you draw are as bitterly partisan and upside-down as James'.
The last President who ran aground trying not to be a hypocrite was Jimmy Carter. Before that it was Woodrow Wilson.
Politics and International Relations don't really allow much room for morality or high minded principles, because nobody else will be playing the game that way. Go see the movie Lincoln which is entirely about that problem and illustrates it brilliantly. Many thanks to Doris Kearns Goodwin who wrote the primary book used to create the movie's script.
Ah yes, good ol' Wilson
by James Denison - 2/14/13 11:39 PM
In Reply to: While each of your factual elements may be correct by Ziks511
The jerk president who gave us federal income tax
Liberals, especially hard left,
believe that Wilson was 'god-like' in his progressivism and 'forward' thinking. He actually was the most destructive president we've ever had.....until BO. I wouldn't be surprised to see those left liberals who are true believers wearing pendants on chains around their necks with his profile on it much like Christians wear a cross.
RE:much like Christians wear a cross
or quote the Bible?
LOL, I never wear a cross
I'm not into idolatry or anything that might suggest it. I will quote Bible, but that's "living words".
Then came FDR
A debacle of Pearl Harbor that makes Benghazi pale in comparison. As if that wasn't enough destruction, he then ordered all gold turned in at $20 per ounce, turned around and revalued the scrip called "money" at $35, thereby stealing 40% of America's wealth for govt use. Fools kept electing him, just like they did recently with Obama.
It being $20 before and then inflated $15, that would be a 75% robbery of the people who had gold by FDR. NO WONDER LIBERALS LOVE HIM!
the Dire Wolf,
600 pounds of sin.
Was lookin in my window all I said was come on in.
Don't murder me.
I beg of you don't murder me.
Pleeeease, ddn't murder me.
I guess that means you approve of a president doing
by Steven Haninger - 2/15/13 8:01 AM
In Reply to: While each of your factual elements may be correct by Ziks511
what he thinks is prudent even if it's unjust or dishonest.
Side topic, do you read novels much?
by Roger NC - 2/15/13 3:21 PM
In Reply to: I guess that means you approve of a president doing by Steven Haninger
There is a two book series, Empire and Hidden Empire, by Orson Scott Card.
It's basically a scenario where the political left and right are maneveur into a shoot war and how and why and what is behind it all.
Card wrote a lot of science fiction and fanasty, but his novels that are really neither are kind of unsettling while good reading.
These books seem like they could happen based on today's attitudes.
Some interesting twists if you read the entire two books, but can't say a lot more without getting into possibly too much. Synopses on sites like Amazon.
I've never been much of a reader of novels
The last one I read cover to cover was Catch-22. It probably took me months as my attention span for such things is just too short. When people ask me such questions, I tell them that books are either for looking stuff up, leveling a table (since they come in many thicknesses) or helping short kids reach their dinner plate.
I need to go back to them
even pure my nonsensical scifi and fanasty that I love, and use to read hours at the time, has to be better for my brain than most internet use and tv programs.
I'd mention I sleep better if I lay down and read for 30 minutes or more before sleep except that in my past if I was "into" a novel, particularly the scifi, I read until I couldn't possibly stay away any longer.
It does work if I read only a little though. But occasionally reading can be as addictive for me as other activities.
My wife reads enough for both of us
She'll can have 2 or 3 in progress at a time. That would make my head explode. Reading fiction is just something I cannot do. After a paragraph or two my brain wanders away from my eyes out of boredom. I've always been this way and would probably have been diagnosed with ADD if tested back then. About the only thing that saves me is that I retain almost everything that I read and hear. At times I wish I could have been a better reader if just to be a better conversationalist at social gatherings but it's nothing you get better at just by practicing.
I'd love to have your memory then.
sometimes I can watch a tv show, movie, or read a book I know I've done before and it's almost brand new.
Sometimes I can recognize stuff as it happens, but can' remember a thing that is about to happen.
Not that my comprehension is that bad fortunately, but I'm always amazed at people with near total memory recall.
Perhaps you remember most of what you read
because you read so little? I'm reading constantly and I generally have two to four going at once. I had one on my bed and one at work and listening to one on the car radio. Now I have Kindle on my phone, I go there as well when I'm waiting for something.
Actually I've slowed down some. I used to read at least one book a day and still work full time and get the work done around the house and yard.
Diana, got a better excuse for you
It's not your aging, it's books are so much longer is why you can't read one every day anymore
(NT) It seems like they are bigger as well.
as we age, our eyes lose the ability of elasticity (bouncing back quickly from 'very close' sight (reading) to 'far away' sight (looking out a window or glancing at the tv 'tickertape' messages across the bottom or top of a screen. The print on a book is very tiny (especially in paperbacks) and even with new glasses, I find myself squinting after a while in order to focus on the print better. I'm an avid reader (read a book in a day or day and a half at most) and it's very frustrating to find the focus going away on me. I find that I multi-task more often in order to compensate......read a little, crochet a little, watch tv a little, go back to the book.....repeating the cycle often just to finish the book.
I am nearsighted.
I have always taken my glasses off to read and even work on the computer. I don't have any problems reading and eyes are actually getting better the older and more far-sighted I get. I do have problems with very small print.
I wear glasses. I don't have much trouble seeing print or staying focused with my eyes. I have trouble keeping my brain focused on what I'm reading...depending on the content, of course. If it's a fictional story, forget it. I can't read it. It's not that I don't appreciate writing talent.
nobody called you hypocrite
They are pointing out Obama's hypocrisy. That's on top of all the whoppers he's told too. My recent favorite is "not a dime increase in the deficit".
"Plese allow me to introduce nyself.
I'm a man of wealth and faith".
>>>"I really hope Hagel, Brennan, and Lew all get blocked."<<<
There's fairness. There's production. And there's tax cheating. We have bills to pay.
basically you are telling me that, although BO is the one who demanded sequestration figuring that nobody would eventually get to this point in time and have it happen, and although he is now campaigning on domestic cuts that would be 'dire' if sequestration DOES happen on March 1 (and not upset one iota that DEFENSE cuts in sequestration would be 'dire' as well), and although the cuts are HIS decision ALONE to make so those FBI agents and first responders wouldn't HAVE to be laid off, and although he stated during the election campaign that 'sequestration isn't gonna happen', and although he already GOT his tax rate increase and is now demanding the ADDITIONAL revenue come from loopholes being removed for MORE tax money (after refusing Boehner's offer of those loopholes the day AFTER the election), and although the sequestration cuts are no more than 2% of the entire non-existent budget and ONLY represent cuts to the automatic increases that happen every year anyhow for those programs and doesn't touch the ACTUAL amounts allocated to those programs and departments (which means all of those programs and departments would be working with the same dollar amounts they got LAST year PLUS some).........
NONE of this is BO's fault in your opinion, right?
It's too much...
NO periods or sentences.
You've said it before K.I.S.S. ............ Keep It Simple Stupid
I apologize for
making it so hard for you. I should have followed the 'other' golden rule...K.I.S.F.S.......Keep It Simple FOR Stupid.