Speakeasy forum: Stanley McChrystal opposes easy availability of Assault Weap

which you might have known had you either understood my post indicating he owns an M9 pistol, and by stating he owns one gun, indicates that he doesn't own others. Then again if you'd looked at the link you might have caught that too.

Since I understand it contradicts you blinders on tunnel-focus on putting machine guns on our streets I wasn't in the least surprised that you didn't do either of those things.

"There's no sense arguing with a closed mind" source unknown.

You have indicated now that you don't like either of the two high profile retired generals commenting on current events, which probably meand you don't like Col. Lawrence Wilkierson either so I won't bother.

Rob

Fast and Furious comes to mind.

Some just like a variety of different guns. I'd be happy with shotgun, small caliber rifle, large caliber rifle, and a couple handguns (small & large caliber). That should pretty much cover any need. Unlike some, I'm not fascinated by automatic weapons, I see them as wasting expensive ammo and discouraging any real shooting skills. I can see having gun clubs owning them for rental at their ranges for those who consider it fun to shoot them. Everyone wants to blame the NRA but they are really a reaction to decades of anti-gun nuts in past years, so they understand that "foot in the door" approach that's been used in the past to try and deprive Americans of their right to be armed, especially for purpose of self defense when away from the inside of their home. Realistically citizens don't spend 90-100% of their time at home, so that means a large amount of time when they aren't actually in the home, they are restricted unduly on self defense. Hiding out in your house with a gun all the time is not freedom, not liberty, and certainly not acceptable. NRA can see how Liberal gun haters are still doing all they can to stonewall and stop the right of citizens to bear adequate means of self defense when they are in public areas, or anywhere outside their house or hunting areas. The NRA may seem intransigent at times, but it's because they've had to fight for decades against those who have done everything they can to interfere with possession of guns and trying to make the legal fences against those who own them smaller and smaller.

Many yrs. ago, when I was old enough I brought my 1st rifle at the local hardware store. It was Browning BLR, lever action .308 more than enough for deer hunting in the brush. However, being in Ohio I couldn't use it until either I went to Mi(upper) or Penn. that allows use of such. I really liked it but found rather impractical as I barely used it. I eventually sold it. I know if I kept it it would be a collector's rifle as I'm sure not many were sold.

I can't say much of anyone having any automatic weapons is good or bad thing, but if as I know many don't stop at 1 or 2, many go all out to get whatever. There are a lot of responsible people out there, its the nuts that get was all in a bind. This is what happens when you release and reduce "so-called mental care" patients back to be free and become whatever they feel like. Families have to fend for themselves any mental health issues and where it becomes too much have no where to turn. This is a life-long illness that any cure has to be shoe-horned to the person involved. I just don't read or hear of great success stories on mental health. If guns become involved the outcome rarely is good. It seems at times, the persons that did all the harm gets better care after the fact provided they lived. So, there is no easy answer unless you want to make it so hard to own any firearm, then gun owners can say, you're infringing on my rights. That is what govts. seem to want to do besides catching the obvious. NYC, one of the hardest places to own a firearm, yet they grinch of all those that come in, people still want a legal firearm. It's the illegal ones that seem to grab the headlines or the mental case. Pretty soon, we'll all be wielding box-cutters. -----Willy

.....it will make it just a bit harder for them to get their hands on that weapon. The guy in Aurora shot 70 people in less than two minutes. His arsenal included a semi with a 100-round magazine. No civilian should have that kind of hardware.

"Furious at the December 1773 Boston Tea Party, ...Britain passed the Coercive Acts [the Patriot's term, not their real name]... the 1774 import ban on firearms and gunpowder; the 1774-75 confiscations of firearms and gunpowder; and the use of violence to effectuate the confiscations. It was these events that changed a situation of political tension into a shooting war. Each of these British abuses provides insights into the scope of the modern Second Amendment."
http://www.davekopel.org/2A/LawRev/american-revolution-against-british-gun-control.html

Each of these was a British Act of parliament, not an edict by the King who was governed by Parliament and as I understand it didn't go nutty until after the Revolution had started, and in part may have been the cause of his lunacy, along with Porphyria, a congenital disease among the House of Hanover. Queen Victoria didn't have it or even pass along the gene to her descendants, because her father wasn't really her father. He is believed to have been her mother's physician.

Lord North who was Prime Minister from 1770-1782 was the ham handed idiot who created the problem. He couldn't safely carry a tea cup at a garden party. Maladroit is too kind a word for him.

However this wasn't the only reason for the Second Amendment. The Founding Fathers mistrusted their own army, and didn't wish it to be in a position to overthrow their new Government without considerable resistance.

Rob

It's not music. It's noise. Noise and shouting and screaming. Screams of rage, screams of being denied what they feel is deserved (not necessarily earned). Anti-authority lyrics, murder lyrics, basic other garbage into the brain. One becomes what they consume.

"whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things."

but you could in the house.

Most shotguns, in the 60's and 70's anyway, that I recall had a removable plug. You had the plug installed for bird, squirrell, rabbit, small game hunting. If you acutally used the shotgun for deer with buckshot or slugs loaded you could remove the plug and load 5 shells.

The AR10 and AR15, which most supporting more gun control would call an assault weapon, are used for hunting believe it or not. I saw a report on the AR10 recently on CBS where the commentator was discussing why people like it. He gave it a good report for accuracy, sighting system, handling, etc. CBS and it's commentators are not radical right wing nuts.

I asked guys at work who hunted. None of the guys I talked to acutally owned one, but a couple had fired one and again the gun performed well and handled well.

You could change the appearance probably without changing any of the functions. Let's be honest, most people who hear assault weapon the main things they see in their mind are the carrying grip, the cooling jacket design, the general outline of the military weapon. It's normally not any functional attribute that the general public thinks of regarding assault weapon, other than the often wrong subconcious association with full automatic fire. You an thank the Rambo style movies for that.

Actually the violent movie and shooter games almost always feature a military appearing weapon. Once someone decides they're going badass and shoot up somewhere, that imagery probably influences their preference of weapon as much as the functionality.

The very term assault weapon is prejudicial and inflammatory for the same imagery. Any gun control should be defined by technical specs of functionality, not for appearance or fear of a word.

IMO, the first step in gun control is better background checks, even if that means a defined minimum waiting period. The opposite side is the determination of someone's ineligibillity for gun purchase or conceal weapon carry permits must be fair. I don't know of it happening but in NC if the local head sheriff (county office) decides you shouldn't have a conceal carry permit you have to appeal, and it's his decision, he doesn't have to justify it. If you don't have a felony, even if you're known to be a hothead and he does like you, he can give you the permit. If you ran campaigned for his opponent the last election, he might decide you're unreliable. If you gave him a lot of support he may decide to give you one inspite of some questionable incidents in your past.

Now I'm not a gun enthusiast, but I don't like the possibility of such abuse of power.

You think the law should be more lenient? Does that mean you think I should be able to keep RPGs and launchers in my apartment? Remember, "arms" does not specifically or exclusively mean "guns."

You don't trust their experience and judgment?

they have to worry about getting shot at everytime they answer a call.

a domestic disturbance report use to be. The officier more likely to be assaulted than in an armed robbery response.