Speakeasy forum: This guy might be in trouble for shooting robber

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Last execution in my neck of the woods was Executions in Canada from 1860 to abolition.

over 15 years now.

Guy came home, two guys walking out of his house carrying either the tv or stereo, I don't remember what just that it was home electronics. Homeowner grabbed a gun from his vehicle, yelled at them to stop, they supposely took off running and he shot them.

I don't even remember how it turned out now. The shooting made the news, the trial didn't. That in itself makes me think it was probably dropped or reduced.

The general "expert" opinion was the homeowner was guilty of second degree murder. If the threat isn't to you, you're denied any defense. Well, to your or another person well being. Meaning if were in the yard, a couple of thugs walked up and started to set your house on fire you can't try to stop them yourself if there is no one in the house.

I understand the view that property thief or damage isn't worth a human life. I don't know how threatened I would have to be to intentional kill someone. However, I'm not sure I agree with the idea that a citizen can't use force to stop thieves from stealing. Under that doctrine taken to extreme if you tried to physically restrain someone from burning your house you're the one committing assault and they can use self defense to kill you.

That would be obviously idoitic

if you shoot someone, even in your house, make sure they're dead, then there's only one story.

At least then you can claim you wanted to keep your property, stop him for police, and avoid killing him. Of course he could sue you, but...

but I've never given up my right to protect not only my life, but also my property.

what is justifiable and what is smart. I've never been robbed but know people who have been and this includes a bank employee who has had a gun in her face several times. I understand that there isn't much time to think and that one is overwhelmed with fear which can quickly turn to anger. When that happens, the smart side of a person might disappear. One who has just been robbed might be justifiably angry. It's just a human emotion. The judges and courts get to decide if human emotion is allowed to prevail over smart thinking.

and I felt threatened, I'm not sure I'd stop firing until the gun was empty. I wouldn't fire unless I though he was going to shoot me, and in that case, you don't stop until he quits moving.

That said, I don't even own a gun right now.

tough luck, he loses.

in Michigan as an EMT where the guy who caused the accident was fleeing the scene of a robbery (not with a firearm) as we discovered later. He had the wallets (2 victims) on him. Because it was a traffic accident, the police attended and questioned the man, then arrested him on a traffic charge. They didn't find the extra wallets until they got him to the station.

Rob