Speakeasy forum: It's gonna be real hard

Helps to know where you are coming from in relation to it.

Nowhere does it say the total number of years since Adam to now. Nowhere does it say the age of the earth either.

You can't find that in one of your books?

Nowhere does it say the total number of years since Adam to now.

Do you have any point of reference other than "now".......Say from Adam to "when they started writing stuff on papyrus, or chiselling stuff into stone?

they calculated how old the earth and moon would be, the amount of dust from space, and were scared the lunar mission would hit the surface only to disappear beneath a few yards or more of dust on the moon. Turns out when they got there, that wasn't the case at all and they were quite surprised at how light the covering of dust on the moon actually was, indicating it was a lot younger than they believed. Since then they've tried to make claims the moon came along to the earth later, or was carved from the earth by a collision and so forth.

I like reading the oddities of Fortean artifacts found. Things like coal, supposedly millions of years old, having remnants of very advanced civilizations found inside those lumps of coal. A lot of assumptions that fails to meet the "anomalies" found, say the "date" of things are millions of years old, yet maybe they are instead just thousands.

If you are counting genealogies in the Bible, there may be large gaps of time between the major names mentioned there. Even today we use terms like "sons of Jacob" or "sons of Abraham" or of famous persons in other nations. Yet, obviously thousands of years may have passed between some of them.

Plenty of preachers on youtube which can explain these things to you, even about pre-flood civilizations and the artifacts which probably belong to them, contained in levels of rocks and coal the "smart scientists" assure us are millions of years old.

How old is the earth? That's the wrong question. Does it matter how old the earth is? That's the correct question.

.....if you're interested in gaining knowledge, even if that knowledge seems to conflict with previously held religious beliefs.

You can poo-poo all you want about the theories about how and when the moon was formed. None of that makes the earth (and presumably the entire universe) only 6,000 years old. The rocks under your front lawn are older than that, unless you live on the slopes of an active volcano.

when a Democrat fights back this way, Toni H accuses them of everything she can think of, but a Republican can get away with that behavior at every turn?

I think there's the same logic behind it.

Kees

and not originally from the bible belt, that language doesn't offend me in the least.......There are actually only two words that are not allowed to be used in my house, EVER. The "N" and "C" words.

racetracks and hollywood in the cliff postpone bill.

How damn sorry are our politicians?

and put in the pork they want.

Sorry, but adding tax breaks for racetracks to the "cliff" bill while postponing aid of storm Sandy victims certainly doesn't support a desire to reduce pork and care for people.

.....because Chris Christie and Peter King ripped them a new one over refusing to allow a vote on it before the 112th Congress ended.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/02/opinion/avlon-christie-sandy-aid/index.html?hpt=hp_c2

New York (CNN) -- "It's why the American people hate Congress. Unlike the people in Congress, we have actual responsibilities."

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie dropped a bomb on Republican House Speaker John Boehner and Congress for refusing to allow a vote on Hurricane Sandy relief in the final hours of the 112th Congress. It was an instant classic of principled political outrage. It provided a strong dose of what Washington has been missing: blunt, independent leadership.

......once Boehner thought better of his decision and called for a vote. I've got CNN on TV right now and there's still plenty of anger at Boehner over this.