Speakeasy forum: "fanatical religiosity"

Where one's military service begins, democracy ends. Soldiers don't get to decide whether they will participate in a conflict and that begins with mandatory formations. When I was in and we were marching in ranks, there would be breaks for smokers. They'd be allowed to "fall out" and puff away. Those who didn't smoke, stayed in ranks. No one got to surf the web or watch TV just because they didn't believe they should smoke.

Sounds like the guy just might not fit the mold of being a soldier. Both he and the military are probably better off if they part company.

I don't see anything to suggest fanaticism of any kind. It would also appear that this man is in the minority as far as feeling some imposition by have to be in the presence of people at prayer. Maybe he's the one who needs to either learn greater tolerance and not expect the majority of his classmates to bow to his wishes. The world isn't about him first and him only. Sorry but I don't see a legitimate beef here.

and it's been there since the inception of a military here........Love of God, Love of Country, Love of Family.........in that order. If you don't believe in all three, you have no business in the military because you are fighting for all three. We don't have a draft anymore so nobody is forced into service....you go voluntarily just as you voluntarily put in an application for a job because you want to be there. If you don't like the 'company' rules or you don't like the atmosphere, you quit the job and move on.......you don't call in the Union to get YOUR rules enacted instead.

make his/her own place in the military, just as conscientious objectors have found. It isn't his/her place to try to change it and make the majority bend to the will of a minority. If an atheist has a distaste for the vastly religious feelings of service personnel, he/she should walk away from signing those enlistment papers. The military makes many accommodations for different religious groups, including having pastors and imams, etc. available to those who need counseling other than Christian based.

Surprisingly, there was just recently a judicial decision made in one of our cities where one atheist complained about a nativity set up on public land (possibly local government property, not sure). Normally, all it seems to take is one to complain and the local communities have taken down Christian items or plaques rather than use budget funds to fight something; however, in this instance, that community was willing to fight it in court. The court decided that as long as the nativity wasn't a LIVING nativity (using live persons and animals) it could stay in place. FINALLY......sanity ruled.

he continually upbraided them for what he considered their "foolishness" and what he's describing is their reaction to it. Bait and then complain when you get someone to bite. A true Atheist wouldn't care, only God Haters make such a stink. A lot of those hide behind the label of "Atheist".

but that hasn't stopped minorities who don't like the tradition to try to stop the tradition, even when it doesn't harm them in any way other than their attitudes. Whatever happened to 'majority rules'?

including atheists are always crying "tolerance"........but never show any. If anything they become fanatical about pushing THEIR will on the majority instead.

I'm done here.......

.....should be able to force their religious views on the minority?

Since you won't answer

Then I'll assume it's in a Democracy...and say YES....

I've answered your question...Now you answer mine

Is the Military a Democracy?

and I don't see where they do. You don't see Christians going to a synagog and telling Jews they can't display their minorrah (sp) or other religions defacing mosques. Religions, for the most part in the USA, leave each other alone to practice their religion. Our military branches have traditionally had a Christian based belief in God and have practiced it or shown it without question until recently.........when most Christian based ANYTHING has been attacked and gone after by non-believers. Even to the point that because of ONE person, the Charlie Brown Christmas play in a local school had to be cancelled....and the stupid Mayor in a Maryland town just had to light up the 'holiday' tree, even though even at the White House, it's still called a Christmas tree.

is that if it is common knowledge that Christianity is the 'majority' religious practice in all branches of the military, then why would an atheist voluntarily join and then try to change that? It's the same thing that happened with Fluke, deliberately going to a Catholic based college and then attacking it from within in order to get her birth control paid for by them. I'm sick and tired of activists deliberately trying to undermine the majority in order to jam THEIR beliefs.......where is the 'tolerance' when it comes from the other direction? It seems that they only want tolerance when it suits their own agenda.

>>>>What you're suggesting is that people who aren't Christian should just kowtow and allow themselves to be preached to by the United States government. <<<<

And, yet, you have no problem with Christians having to kowtow to the United States Government over their unConstitutional force of birth control including fertilization/sterilization/abortions/morning after pills, etc. upon their insurance companies?

Can't have it both ways, Josh........

non-response........BUT, when you say nobody is forced to use birth control, you are right, but tax payers who don't believe in it and churches and their affiliates that don't believe in it are now being forced to pay for it via Obamacare forcing insurance companies to provide for it........

You will argue against one thing (Christianity being the majority in the military) but for the same thing when it comes to other aspects of Religious Freedom with the First Amendment......so I'm going to assume that's what you meant by my non-response. But you can't have it both ways, Josh........either we HAVE freedom OF religion and that includes the military (it isn't freedom FROM religion as atheists would have you believe) or we don't.