Speakeasy forum: Unintended consequence of legalizing pot and gay marriage...

The potential for sex in the streets would be terrible.
Rob

I'm impressed you watched FOX News. Although, I haven't watched Fox & Friends since they promoted Gretchen Carlson over Kiran Chetry. Which goes to show, even when you come over to the Conservative side, we still disagree. The morning after the election, I was watching Soledad O'Brien who was the reason I started posting here back in 1996. Wow, can't believe it's been that long.

Getting back on topic, I seem to recall reading somewhere (don't remember where, unfortunately) that people who are drunk tend to drive more recklessly, whereas people who are stoned tend to drive more safely. Also, maybe this will lead to a change from Blood Alcohol Content to a Reaction Time test, which would seem to me to be more appropriate. (Shouldn't be too hard to do with the prevalence of tablets and video games.)

Mark(back)atNite

Obamacare will pay for rehab...as many times as it's needed.

Mitt! Help!

at some point of recurring relapses, you have to face the fact some can't live without supervision and stay clean.

or life experience that may contribute?

I don't agree with unlimited cycles of rehap and as soon as they get out heading straight for the nearest fix either.

I recognize that any attempt to recognize individul differences invite misuse and abuse by some. I have no magic formula, but I just don't think every relapse is the same.

rehap/prisons just for drug users.

Complete incarceration with rehap for a set period of time, then work in the faciltiy itself with a bit more privacy, internet, personal hobbies, etc time. Moving on to work release or limited hour release with a return every night and testing.

Just a random thought, I'm not sure you could ever impliment anything like that.

Should we say so many times and no more?

Diana

that's three meals of 500 calories per day. You feed off your fat when asleep and wake up refreshed in the morning. You can drop 2-4 pounds per week that way. Easier than exercising which just tires you out too quick and doesn't burn off that much anyway. My supper last night was a can of clam chowder, over a big can of mushrooms, 5 saltine crackers and a diet drink. Less than 500 calories and I was full.

.....unless you have an addictive personality that can get you hooked on pretty much anything.

I suspect regular marijuana use would be at least as hard to give up as smoking, and I can testify that tobacco isn't just something you take or leave it.

Even people that aren't in the genetic group that fall into alcoholism immediately upon starting to drinking become gradually dependent on alcohol. Knowing a few regular pot smokers in the past, I believe it's at least as habit forming as tobacco and alcohol.

Nicotine kicks the snot out of opiates when it comes to addictive substances. My friend's wife said the hardest thing to deal when she was (20 years) out of rehab was people constantly smoking, not seeing people drink or do other drugs. FWIW, marijuana doesn't even come close to being a dangerously addictive substance such as heroin or nicotine.

Luckily, some people have the psychological will and physical ability to quit smoking though. In my dad's case, he quit cold turkey, but gained nearly 75 lbs (in only three months) from all the nervous extra eating(!)

try smoking 20 to 40 joints a day like most cigarette smokers consume then see how easy it is to quit.

but the cases I've known that smoke pot everyday, even only a couple of joints, don't seem to wish to quit, no matter what.

It's not medically addictive maybe, but it's damn sure habit forming for many. I'll grant you it's a legitimate debate comparing it to alcohol on many points, but it's potential to ruin a life goes beyond nicotine IMO, unless the nicotine actually kills you.

I think most addictions are emotional more than anatomical.