No Toni, Insurers meet among themselves to work out profits
by Ziks511 - 6/21/12 10:04 PM
In Reply to: Are you saying by TONI H
and the response to threats to that profitability, and share mortality tables and pressure government not to intervene in a profitable but unequally distributed industry. They're Death Panels.
Have you been deaf to the extensive reporting over the last 30+ years about people who have been cut off Insurance in the middle of a course of Cancer Treatment which might save their lives, but in its absence will assure their deaths?
The Death Panels have been in existence since Medicine was invented 3000 years ago. Decisions on treatment and its cessation have been a part of the American Health System since the US was founded. Whom do we treat, and for how long? has always been an issue. People just didn't talk about it. People did within their families however talk about whether they could afford to see a doctor. That's a potential Life and Death situation too. You'd prefer to let the Fickle Finger of Financial Fate decide who lives and dies, I take it.
In Emergency Medicine it is called Triage. You and your partner arrive at the plane crash, or the Tornado site and you visit everybody figuring out who can wait, who needs immediate treatment which will save their lives, and who is too injured to be saved. You target your treatment to making Category 3 (No Chance) comfortable, and target your best efforts to saving the people who can be saved: Category 2. If you have enough resources, and quick enough response from other agencies, maybe you get to save all the Category 2 (Seriously Injured but Savable) and all the Category 1 (non Life Threatening). Nobody can save Category 3, unless it's God.
Do mistakes get made? Of course. Do people from Category 1 die from undetected injuries (say a ruptured Spleen and slow response from other Emergency Workers or absence of Transport). Yes. Are people who were they injured in the Waiting Room of the Emergency Department might be saved instead categorized as Category 3? Absolutely. And the farther away a Hospital and the later the Transport gets there, the more there will be. Resources are finite in Emergency Situations away from Hospitals.
The point you continue to miss is that through the biased allocation of resources in the United States, more people die than the purported 130,000 from your Daily Mail article. Millions of people in the US die every year who do not need to. If they had adequate ongoing Health Care, they could live long productive lives, and pay for you when you're the one who needs treatment. That's what all that statistical analysis about percentage of GDP spent on Health Care is about. Canada spends 2/3 per capita on Health Care compared to the US, covers 100% of its citizens including isolated communities in the far North, and still has a longer over all life expectancy than the United States. That's what ObamaCare could give you, a longer better quality of life for 100% of Americans, at cheaper rates eventually, and a bigger tax base to pay for it. And I don't think Canada is a good example, because a Conservative Government 20 years ago pulled out of the joint funding scheme, so Canada is starved of Medical Resources, and still outscores the US on health and longevity.
You want to level the playing field?? Shoot all the Doctors and Nurses. Nobody gets treated. They live or die on God's whim or pure blind chance. Just make sure there are Health Police out there arresting people who offer advice, or herbs from their garden, or expertise from their grandmother, because that's not fair or equal either.
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