A sign of things to come?
by JP Bill - 5/30/12 8:44 PM
by: JP Bill May 30, 2012 8:44 PM PDT
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A sign of things to come?
by JP Bill - 5/30/12 8:44 PM
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The only difference is that Romney's mistake came from an ineffective proofreader....BO's mistake came from his own words a number of times in the same speech.....and he didn't know the difference between Veteran's Day and Memorial Day.....and he didn't realize that there were no fallen military in his audience when he said there were quite of few of them there that day.
didn't know the difference between Veteran's Day and Memorial Day
Neither does NPR and Romney?
Obama, Romney Honor Veterans On Memorial Day
I can see where the lines would be blurred about what/who you are honouring, and when you do it.
Memorial Day, originally called Decoration Day, is a day of remembrance for those who have died in our nation's service.
North of the border we have Remembrance Day, Nov 11....
The only difference is that Romney's mistake came from an ineffective proofreader.
AND the proofreader of Obama's speech WAS effective?
or are you making the assumption that Obama wrote his own speech?
Politicians read what is put in front of them, they don't think about what they are saying...they are just reading.
Corpsman vs "corpseman"
His proofreader for the teleprompter had it right....BO just didn't know how to say it correctly and he had writers and proofreaders who actually thought he was smart enough to know how. I think you're right when you say 'they don't think about what they are saying and just reading". We obviously need someone who can actually think and not be a parrot without a brain, especially a 'college professor' who has an ego big enough to believe he can lead a Corpsman.
RE: We obviously need someone who can actually think
If you want to go down that road
I Stand by What I Said, Whatever It Was'
I don't see a problem
by TONI H - 5/31/12 7:14 AM
In Reply to: RE: We obviously need someone who can actually think by JP Bill
There are very few people who would be able to remember 'word for word' what they have said during a 14 month campaign, so for Romney to say he stood by what he said, even if he couldn't recall what it was exactly, sounds pretty consistent to me. For the Democratic speakers to say that Romney should have taken the 'high road' like McCain did is pretty hypocritical considering that BO didn't do it when it came to his 'civililty' speech after the Giffords shooting and has still not come out and reversed his position regarding the OWS protestors even though he has 'distanced' himself by not talking about them at all anymore after supporting them publicly at the start. McCain may have taken the 'high road' during the 2008 campaign regarding BO, but it didn't get him anywhere, did it? So of course, they want Romney to pattern himself after McCain...............
If a President wants to make pretty speeches in front of the military that he leads, he should at least know how to pronounce their official titles, doncha think? They are at the very least deserving of that much respect from him.
RE: If a President wants to make pretty speeches
You think The President (no matter which one) does what they want to...all the time?
They also go where they are pushed/driven, most of the time read what's put in front of them (sometimes they misread it), when it's put in front of them, and not before.
It's almost like they are human.
Bush was also good at the sight gags
Here's a sight gag of the new French President
More human behaviour..
Rain-soaked Francois Hollande is a comic, everyman leader for our times
The French president is patient as his suit soaks up water. Such bumbling characters are the best fit for stormy times
I enjoy getting a smile from politicians, Obama makes mistakes in his speeches, but I don't find them funny.
Like I said
They go where they are pushed
Bush, who has made no secret of his disdain for Washington since returning to Texas, entered the room to the tune of "Hail to the Chief," a song he considered pretentious during his time in office.
"I am also pleased, Mr. President," he said, "that when you are wandering these halls as you wrestle with tough decisions, you will now be able to gaze at this portrait and ask, 'What would George do?
since every President has had his portrait unveiling 'ceremony'............it's a tradition. I'm sure BO will be back for his ceremony when Romney invites him for it, too.
You missed "Bush, who has made no secret of his disdain for Washington since returning to Texas" in the article?
The feeling that someone or something is unworthy of one's consideration or respect; contempt.
Verb: Consider to be unworthy of one's consideration.
disdain doesn't sound like a happy camper
I was talking about while they are President and so was Bush., not about being there for the unveiling.
AFTER he left the job...he voiced his disdain...
Any audio from Bush to go with that comment?
I'd think it not worth passing along what cannot be substantiated but I'm also aware of the reality that many take print as always being factual if it disparages persons they disdain but consider to be falsehood if spoken of those they admire.
How wonderful it is to live in a world where doing ones own thinking is optional.
(NT) An audio clip?...No.
isn't worth a whole lot when you don't have Bush's own words saying that; however, if he sees what has been happening in DC over the last three and a half years and is as unhappy about it as the majority of the people living in the US are, then the disdain is an appropriate reaction, I think. I do know that he has commented a number of times that no matter how much BO talks publicly about his own disdain for Bush, Bush believes that it isn't respectful to the office of the presidency to speak publicly about how he personally feels about BO as the current president and hasn't. Say what you will about Bush....he has class, even if he learned it late in life and thanks to his wife.
RE:A printed 'opinion' isn't worth a whole lot
A printed 'opinion' isn't worth a whole lot when you don't have Bush's own words saying that
if he sees what has been happening in DC over the last three and a half years and is as unhappy about it
And where did you get THAT from?
Got an audio clip?
I got it from you
>>>You missed "Bush, who has made no secret of his disdain for Washington since returning to Texas" in the article?
That's the article's opinion, too....which is why I said "IF"....
RE: I got it from you
You got THIS from me/the article "Bush, who has made no secret of his disdain for Washington since returning to Texas YES you did
and YOU interpreted that as if he sees what has been happening in DC over the last three and a half years and is as unhappy about it
The article doesn't state that "Bush made no secret of his disdain for Obama"...it was his "disdain for Washington"
Also Toni, when a President is visiting a location, it's best to make sure of its name. I'm thinking the BP disaster. The name is Grand Isle, not Grand Island. Just something that grated on my nerves, like Walter Cronkite's pronunciation of "Biloxi" a long time ago following a hurricane.
When people travel that much, sometimes they don't even know where they are. Mistakes happen.
Now imagine Herman Cain traveling to just about anywhere, unless it's Uzbecki-becki-becki-becki-stan-stan.
(NT) didn't the Temptations do that?
Shall I try a forum search....
.....to find things that Obama had nothing to do with personally but that you blamed him for? Wading through all your "BO this" and "BO that" posts may take months though....
how you guys blamed Bush for every little thing? It could take me a year or more to find all of those that were posted here since 2000, Josh, and they still go on to this day..............
It amazes me that liberals can bash, denigrate, blame, accuse....but a conservative is supposed to just keep taking it on the chin and travel the high road according to you. I would think that since the beginning of 2010 when it became apparent that conservatives weren't gonna take it anymore and began fighting back as heavily as liberals/progressives dished it out that getting our message out isn't going to be stopped anymore. Some of it started in 2000 with the swiftboat ads against Kerry when the attacks against Bush's military record began with moveon, but it's really come to light in the last two years or so.
In this case, BO has nobody but himself, his own words that he used especially during his 2008 campaign, and his ego to blame.
.....you think Bush was treated unfairly, so you feel that justifies treating Obama unfairly? "Taking the high road" means being better than the people you're criticizing, as opposed to engaging in the same behavior you're objecting to from others.
Your contention that every smear that's come from the Right is just a reaction to some previous smear from the Left is just more revisionism. What left-wing smear prompted right-wingers to pay a hooker to claim Bill Clinton was the father of her child?
How is BO being treated unfairly
when his own words and actions are what's being used against him?
As for the Clinton statement you made, I haven't found any proof that it was a right-wing payoff to a hooker to make that claim. I'm not saying she didn't say it....I'm saying I've found nothing to indicate she was paid by a right-wing organization or person to say it. Was an investigation done that proves that?
.....any sensible person knows that "57 states" was a slip of the tongue and he knew how many states there are. And yet it was used time and time again to suggest he's dumb or as some comment on his inexperience.
I remember reading that it turned out she was paid. She was a prostitute who would do almost anything for cash, after all. I Googled but couldn't find much.
Used to 'suggest he's dumb'.....
Boy, does that sound the like the familiar statements that were repeatedly made about Bush....remember 'nu-cu-lar'?????
.....and I never made fun of him over that. Jimmy Carter pronounced it the same way and no matter what you thought of his presidency, nobody would call him stupid or uneducated.
There were plenty of other, better reasons to think Bush was dumb.
Today Obama gave a speech
Something about using executive order to force states to ignore licensing requirements in professional jobs and overriding other regulatory safeguards to put returning service people into jobs he thinks they would be qualified for, ahead of other more qualified job candidates. He'll probably write some "ordnance" about it soon as he can get some "materiel" together.
So we have one candidate who can't spell and a sitting president who spends more time marketing his own ideas than listening to the citizens he serves. Sounds like we need a third choice. Any names come to mind?
I nominate Toni.
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