Speakeasy forum: IF the Republicans get elected

odd statement to me

by Roger NC - 5/6/12 10:20 AM

In Reply to: nope because by TONI H

Hammond, who said that Gingrich did not take a salary from the campaign,

Do candidates who want political jobs get paid a salary just to run? Shhhhesssssh.

A lot of the numbers seem odd but normal political hack spending, such as his family connected business getting paid before others. Normal for all politicians IMO.

Just seem totally bizarre that a statement Gingrich didn't get a salary from the campaign funds. Was that suppose to be a positive statement?

Makes me wonder how many do draw salaries to run and how they compare to the salary they were drawing at whatever their day job was.

Of course many, of all political stripes, run for one office while getting for salary from the elected office they hold. SOP, but do they draw a salary for running as well as the job they are currently elected to do?

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Candidates cannot use campaign funds

by Diana - 5/6/12 11:54 AM

In Reply to: odd statement to me by Roger NC

for personal use like salaries.

That is what is getting John Edwards in trouble.

Diana

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Of course, John Edwards case

by Roger NC - 5/6/12 2:25 PM

In Reply to: Candidates cannot use campaign funds by Diana

may be considered as using campaign funds as hush money, basically to pay blackmail.

It seems if the donor knew the use was going to what it was, it's not illegal, just a friendly loan or personal gift. Of course, personal gifts are supposed to be reported as income also.

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One woman contributed $75,000

by Diana - 5/6/12 5:12 PM

In Reply to: Of course, John Edwards case by Roger NC

She thought she was giving to the campaign. When told where it went, she said he should his own money for his mistress.

It has nothing to do with how it was used, it has to do if he used campaign money for personal expenses, like hush money.

Diana

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If they contributed

by MarkFlax - 5/6/12 12:25 PM

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isn't that their choice?

Mark

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I notice that all of Gingrich's companies and

by Diana - 5/6/12 2:01 PM

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Gingrich himself got paid or re-imbursed. That left the other vendors holding the back.

Diana

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(NT) I'd like more depth on that one

by James Denison - 5/6/12 5:13 PM

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(NT) It's in the article.

by Diana - 5/6/12 5:15 PM

In Reply to: (NT) I'd like more depth on that one by James Denison

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Not all is as it appears

by James Denison - 5/6/12 6:19 PM

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And while huge amounts of money are still owed to a variety of vendors -- some of whom might wonder when and if they'll see their money -- the campaign seems to have paid off all its bills to businesses run by Gingrich family members, as well as "reimbursed" the candidate himself with nearly half a million dollars.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/05/02/gingrich-spending-decisions-in-spotlight-as-campaign-faces-massive-debt/#ixzz1u97x6zYz

Many who "loan money" to these campaigns do so in hopes "their candidate" will get elected and they will benefit thereby. Loaning money is one way to get around rules that limit the amount which can be "given" to candidates. Some "loans" are actually "gifts" but since they become "debts" which aren't repaid, they aren't counted as "gifts" under campaign laws.

The Gingriche's have plenty of money and for them 4 million is something that over time they could likely pay back eventually anyway. Anyway, these were "loans" and we don't know the maturity dates nor the conditions of those loans do we?

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RE: Anyway, these were "loans"

by JP Bill - 5/6/12 7:42 PM

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Anyway, these were "loans" and we don't know the maturity dates nor the conditions of those loans do we?

As for the pile of bills left behind, by far the biggest debt -- more than $1 million -- is owed to the campaign's favorite charter jet firm, Moby Dick Airways. That's above and beyond the hundreds of thousands of dollars in travel cost reimbursements filed by dozens of individuals.

Outstanding are payments are also due an army of consultants, with one public relations firm, Gordon C. James Public Relations, billing Gingrich for $144,000. Gordon James, the firm's owner, told FoxNews.com in a statement the company is "working closely" with the Gingrich camp to "resolve" the outstanding invoices. "We remain supportive of the Gingrich family and are confident that we will receive our final payment," he said.

I did a word find on the article..."loan"...phrase not found.

Debt...on the other hand.....15 times

What's THIS about

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/05/02/gingrich-spending-decisions-in-spotlight-as-campaign-faces-massive-debt/#ixzz1u97x6zYz

You provide a link to the article that I linked to in the OP ?

Some "loans" are actually "gifts" but since they become "debts" which aren't repaid, they aren't counted as "gifts" under campaign laws.

My head is spinning.

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