Zero broken. physics
by crowsfoot - 4/13/12 2:16 AM
All conserved quantities equal zero.
by: crowsfoot April 13, 2012 2:16 AM PDT
Zero broken. physics
by crowsfoot - 4/13/12 2:16 AM
All conserved quantities equal zero.
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(NT) Thanks crowsfoot, you keep on finding interesting stuff. R
Cool, bro. And you.
by crowsfoot - 4/14/12 2:28 AM
Here's all from the series for Alan Guth. A very far seer, IMO.
Non zero is a mystery. A mystery is not nessassaraly a problem. It's just a mystery. He's got a lot more on YouTube.
I know you have an intrest in Dark Energy.
Somewhere in there is a discusion about what it would take to create a bubble universe like ours. The answer is a liner accellerator 7 light years long. And about a milligram of prexisting, non-zero mass. Sounds a whole lot like the Sea-Monkey adds from the back of the Superman comics. Only on a different scale.
(Where's my spellchecker?)
that all particles that have to do with the electro-magnetic spctrum, photons, move at the speed of light. Therefore they do not participate in the dimintion of time. And therefore not in space either.
A photon emmited from the colapse an over-charged, valence electron state in a galaxy at the very edge of the universe, arives here, to be absorbed, in no time at all, by it's perspevtive. No time? No space. Still connected in the most basic sense. Still non-seperated.
to the speed of light time slows down. At the speed of light, time stops. All photons travel at the speed of light.. Without the time factor, distance has no meaning. Therefore, an atom emiting a photon from it's over-charged valence orbital in an ultimatly distant galaxy is still in a very real sense still connected, with no time delay or distance, to the atom destined to absorbe it.
Don't read too much into this until you view as much as possible. My reading on the topic of dark matter became more about the understanding of existing processes for actual matter than overall getting to what dark matter was. Whole books of reading only to find they simply don't know. BUT! it certainly was about the proposals of theories of anything out there from the moment of the big bang to now or what if, it was more an interaction of dark energy+dark matter to create the known universe, other universes and how it all behaves or seems to. Just throw another math equation into the mix and dwell on it more. I find it rather enlightening yet disappointing. It's not all wasted as in some latter time, someone else picks up a tossed theory and runs with it to another level or uses it yet to resolve another quest in an entirely different field or area which weren't at that time to seem connected. Sometimes, i get the feeling these scientist, theorists, physicists, mathematicians, and any other label get lost in their heads. Which is why I'm very grateful to not see some of the mathematical statements they need to get from here to there. Books usually don't supply much of it but online websites do and wooooooo, I certainly get lost myself. -----Willy
I'm no mathmatition either. But I get some of the ideas. Like multiplying by zero and such.
Something from nothing is such an unthinkable thing. But following the regression argument, at some point you bump into it. So what's on the other side? Being here, can we ever know?
I think dark energy is one of those things that we'll have to figure into an ultimate zero sum, to be satisfying. The least we can do is to try and see creation from the point of view of each of it's constituant parts. That's why I keep bringing up photons, and their seeing things with no dimension of time. (Speed of light, time dilation, no time. No time, no distance.) That's what the math says. Just one interesting, but undenyable, perspective.
As an e-coli in the belly of the beast, how can we devine the beast it's self? As Holms said: eliminate the impossible.
I have big faith that the equations will, at some point, need
Dark Energy in order to zero out.
The only equation that ever sunk in was the state of the universe. Basically that is [0 < universe > 1].
If the sum total is less than 1, we have a collapsing universe, if more than 1 we have an expanding universe, and if at 1, we have a stagnate universe. So far, it seems to point to a expanding universe when relying on the Hubble factor. While that seems solid to rely on I can always find someone stating that maybe at "one time" is almost stopped or at least slowed down and then sped-up due to dark energy. Dark energy wasn't part of the picture until much later, I believe in late '70's or '80's, then something had to be thrown in to explain how it got to the state the universe is now. dark matter was used to explain things during the '30's or what was yet unexplained process at work that galaxies didn't behave as one suppose to using current thinking from Euclid math and/or Newton principles basically "very large scale" objects or similar.
BTW- Sometimes reading one book offered to me a better explanation of some process or principle brought on by reading yet another book. Which is why I started to read more because the "nuggets of knowledge" were strewn haphazard it seems, too much reading for the details. I got the bigger picture roughly after reading 5-6 books and then it seemed to kick-in. Details, details, it seems more about explaining their logic rather offering the proof of pudding, IMHO. -----Willy
About 10 years ago I went to half price books and bought out the quantum mechanics section. Carefully read 4 or 5 of them. (skipping the equations) I came away with some things firmed up. But not with a good idea about the list of known unknowns etc.
It's still goofy to me that that cat is literaly both alive and dead at the same time. And waiting to be observed to resolve into one or the other. Yet they all insist that this is the true situation. Oh well.
I was always wondering about that.
It sounds like too much ego. To me the cat is either dead or not. It doesn't matter whether I see the cat or not.
Is that like believing three impossible things before breakfast.
So that's where this storyline came from
I was watching this last night
In the Futurama episode, "Mars University" (1999), Professor Farnsworth is lecturing on the effects of quantum neutrino fields and the blackboard behind him displays an explanation of "Superdupersymmetric String Theory" and a diagram explaining "Witten's Dog". Witten's Dog, named after Ed Witten, is a parody of the classic Schrodinger's cat paradox Astrophysicist David Schiminovich created both the equations and the diagram, based on "an equation that constrains the mass density of neutrinos in the universe".
It's been posted
but taken down.
Dam you Foxx!!!
Thank you! It's all so obvious now! 42 is the answer! (I like the little dark haired girl in the pink sweats!) Or business school.
"Therefore, by process of elemination, the proton must taste like grapeade."
Impossible is the exact right jumping off point.
I mean, who you going to believe? Me or your lying eyes? (And why just three?)
What are you to do with irrefutable evidence that what you see is not the way things really are? Do you doubt cause and effect? Or do you look for a reason why we might slur things together and come up with an incorrect and incomplete picture?
What's impossible is what makes the universe not be a warm gray mush.
It's six impossible things before Breakfast.
and predictably that comes from the work of a Mathematician, Charles Dodgson (pronounced Dodson) best known as Lewis Carroll. Douglas Adams sneaks a reference to that into The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy or H^2G^2.
Schrodinger's Cat will drive you crazy. It's an extention
of Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle, that observation is not a passive state, but can change the outcome of the experiment. I asked a real Physicist (Nathan Isgur) about Schrodinger's Cat, and he explained it to me and I swear it took me three years to accept the two states as equally valid and equally true.
Wish I could remember which of the great names (probably Richard Feynman) said, "if it makes sense it's wrong." You read enough Feynman and get a faint grasp of Feynman diagrams, and then somebody throws the Penguin diagram at you, and you're crazy for the next 3 weeks.
My late friend Nathan Isgur, and his wife Karin Bergsagel were there on the night of the famous darts match at Cern in Switzerland that created, as a result, "The next paper you write has to have the word Penguin in it." The weird thing is that the penguin diagram actually fits the energy flows they're trying to explain. This is all checkable on Wikipedia, though as a bystander Nathan is not mentioned. But the consumption of non-legal herbs is.
When I was in training/schooling for my military MOS, we went through various classes. A good one that was fun the use of special tools or instruments that we would eventually use. The one I liked was the wave or sound generator. This was a very old item and during the days of tubes and us Marines didn't have the fancy goodies to play with. The point being, tap on the side of the box, you get the sound variation, use various items or pass-throughs got some interesting audio effects. Test an item and see what the effect it would produce, like a carrot, cake or anything handy. It was an easy class. -----Willy
didn't have anything to do with the two slit thing, did it?
Dr Quantum - Double Slit Experiment
Interesting and only a small fraction of it all
Nope, nothing of the sort at least that was not part of the learning.
As for the two slot experiment, that always seems to be brought up in the physics books. While, I understand the idea of particle and wave(or field) effects which is now understood to be the process happening, it's both. Further, the mere act of observation or measurement will in itself interfere or somehow become what is being observed, as understood now of quantum physics or the mechanics of same. So, what is a physicist to do, repeat and repeat again until some avg. becomes shown, which is what the left or right spin of particles and all the names of found particles and maybe their waves(fields) represent their nature as best as possible. ----Willy
The two slit thing has always p-ed me clean off!
NO NO AND DOUBLE-DOG NO!!!
Of course the observation physicaly changed things! That has to be it! But you read the books, they all insist that having been seen, instead of the physicality of what ever mechinisum is used to do the observing, is what makes the difference. I can't swollow that. But there it is.
Is it that they have a drum to beat? Or that I'm too hard headed? I really do not know.
I've finally eased my mind about the entangled states thing. What Einstein called "spooky action at a distance". Relief ! Partly.
I loved the show: "The Mechanical Universe...and Beyond"
Episode 50. --- Particles and Waves --- shed some light (for me) on the nature of what particles really are. (Something from nothing.) And the evolution of the body of knowledge.
Do this mean that, before there were humans,
all deaths were in limbo until humans showed up to observe the deaths?
That's the way most of the books
you get would have you see it. Observation ... by who? By what? A fish? Most of the books I've read seem to imply that comprehention of what's been observed makes all the difference. That's why I asked the question about whether they have a drum to beat.
You would think Shrodinger would have made it very clear what exactly it was that he WASN'T saying. Yes? But no.
But then again, I'm 10 or 12 years removed from where we are now.
Kind of like the old addage
If a tree falls in the woods and no one is around, does it still make a sound?
I believe it may have been that period's
version of intelligent design. But I'm not sure. The notion was so wide spread and so insistant, that I can't really tell. To this day, the observer thing continues. As far as I can tell. Whether the observer has to know what it is he's seeing, they stubbornly, still refuse to say.
To me, either it's magic or not. Either the magic lobby ...
(NT) Sounds more like smoke and mirrors.
stroboscopic photography? If that's a whole series of drops, all the same size and shape and in the same relitive position to each other at exact time intervals, Pretty dang amazing.
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