Speakeasy forum: Speaking of bumps and such

If anyone was bruised bodily, it would have been Zimmerman.

A couple points..IF there was a scuffle,

the person doing the punching should have abrasions on their hands.

Zimmerman was 80 lbs heavier, why assume the heavier person would be the one that gets bruised?

coroner's report. Do you have that one?

I'm preparing it as we speak.

They also don't appear if you're not hit, or you don't hit something.

If there is nothing to heal....why start healing?

This from the guy who has Trayvon Martin stoned and shoplifting from the 7-11 before he was murdered.

idea what he's talking about.He's thinks he's bolstering the contention that Zimmerman was uninjured in the video with his own "evidence".

I wonder if he and others will actually believe what's written in the actual police report?

I just happened to find a PDF of it:

http://www.wesh.com/pdf/30793508/detail.html

Scroll to page 3 and notice the statement of one of the attending officers:"While I was in such close contact with Zimmerman,I could observe that his back appeared to be wet and was covered in grass,as if he had been laying on his back on the ground.Zimmerman was also bleeding from the nose and back of his head."

I believe it was you who posted something about Zimmerman's and Martin's clothing being removed, bagged and tagged as evidence. The police report stated that Zimmerman was wearing a red jacket The video of his arrival at the station in handcuffs shows him wearing a two-toned jacket with red as the predominant color. The police officer in the video seems to be examining the jacket he is wearing and finds something on it that he wipes on his pants...or so it appears to me. I suppose this could mean his jacket wasn't taken at the scene of the shooting.

I also saw an interview of another man claiming to be a paramedic. Of course the media is now seeking their own "expert" witnesses. In any event, this man suggested that a trip to the hospital was SOP if there was any indication of possible head injuries at all. In your link, the statement by officer Timothy Smith is really telling. It does suggest that Zimmerman was coherent and cooperative. The aforementioned paramedic suggested that head injuries often result in just the opposite...that a person loses cognitive ability in varying degrees. My impression of his comments was that Zimmerman was too much in control of himself and should have either been in a stupor or a raving maniac. I would guess he thinks that not losing one's cool implies guilt.

And you know this how?

1. That Tony's assumption about when he drew his gun is accurate.
2. That Zimmerman took ANY blows to the head. I've seen no physical evidence of that yet.

did you read pg 3 of the police report?

http://www.wesh.com/pdf/30793508/detail.html

Keep in mind we're talking about a 6'3" 170lb physically fit 17yr old against an out of shape,pudgy 5'9" guy.If Zimmerman had his weapon already drawn,Martin would have been shot sooner than he was.

There's also a 2nd scenario circulating in the law enforcement community which is why only that partial report has been released.At this point it's only a rumor,I'd like to stress that because it may be in Zimmerman's favor.I won't believe it until I see it in the report.

It states:Zimmerman's weapon was a Kel-Tec pf9 9mm that held 7 rounds and the police recovered the gun with a full magazine and empty chamber...how do you shoot a weapon and still have a full mag and empty chamber after it's been fired??

Simple,you load a round in the chamber and refill the mag so you have a full mag and one "in the pipe" and have 8 rounds. in the gun.A fresh round should have cycled into the chamber from the mag after it was fired but didn't....how??

One thing that can cause that is another man's hand wrapped around the pistol, retarding its slide mechanism. This would indicate, as could certain gunshot residue patterns or cuts in certain places if found on Trayvon Martin's hand(s), that a struggle for a gun was taking place when the fatal shot was fired. This would clearly change the shape of the case.But it's only rumor at this point and we have to wait for the special prosecutor to go through the facts.

Here's another reason

(The re-set stinks, too; watch the video above and you'll see why this kept my attempted second shot from happening.)

Reliability * *

Read the Kel-Tec Owner's Group online bulletin board - for several years - before purchasing.

That has nothing to do with chambering. It has to do with why a second shot may not have been fired due to the trigger reset being so forward that on the first "feel" of a reset it's actually not ready to fire, only after the second "feel" is it actually reset to fire the next round. The next round would still have chambered.

for personal safety concealed carry.

conseqeunces if you should need to get off a second shot in an emergency.

I had a failure of an opposite sort several years ago when I took my MAB P-15 pistol to the local range to fire off a few.It holds 15 in the mag and 1 in the pipe,I fully loaded it,aimed at the target and squeezed the trigger.

That pistol has what I call a 'disconnect' lever on the sear that the slide runs over every time you fire the gun.It disconnects the trigger from the sear and insures that the weapon only fires one round with each trigger pull.

Unfortunately,the disconnect lever chose that particular moment to fail,when I touched the trigger,the entire 16 rounds unloaded with one trigger pull and it sounded like a machine gun!! Scared the crap out of me but I kept it under control......lol.

When the gun was finished I noticed an eerie silence at the range,everyone on either side of me was looking in my direction with a WTF???? look.The range captain runs over and asks WTF was that all about? "I don't know man,something with the sear f'd up and the gun emptied but it was fun"...lol. "Put it away and don't even think about reloading it..okay"?

I took it to the French gunsmith who originally customized it for me and he machined a new custom lever for me($100) because orig parts were unavailable.