Mac OS X good and bad vs. Windows
by sclaflin - 8/16/08 5:45 PM
I am thinking about moving to a Mac for school, and was curious if any one knew what was good with Mac OS X versus Windows and what was bad versus Mac OS X versus Windows.
by: sclaflin August 16, 2008 5:45 PM PDT
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You are both being misleading.
I have in front of me right now 5 computers that I use every day, 4 of them are Windows based, and the oldest one will be 7 years old soon. In those 7 years I have had exactly one actual virus; fortunately it just messed with cpu load and did no actual damage that wasn't fixed by deleting the virus and repairing infected files. What I'm trying to say is that there is some truth to what both or you are saying, bighedstev and nickrandocps. However there is also a lot of the usual Mac fanboy, Win fanboy crap that I get tired of seeing.
I am not an idiot, yet I still got that one virus, I know how I got it and where I got it. Simple fact; it couldn't have been avoided. Other than real viruses and trojans, which are rare exceedingly these days with people being smarter with their computers, the main thing that all windows computers will have on them are spyware and adware and all that stuff. You get them in all sorts of ways, a lot of them are just cookies you get from visiting certain sites and most of them are completely harmless. Some are real threats for security of personal information but these are far less prevalent and you won't find them in the mainstream waters of the net mostly.
So yes there are viruses and trojans on Windows, but by no means would you find tons of them on your computer every week, that's ludicrous and complete BS. nickrandocps if by "a LOT of trojans and other viruses" you mean spyware and adware, then yes it’s possible that you have these problems but most of them are probably harmless. On the computer I'm on right now that I've had for a year and a half now I did my first malware (spyware and adware) scan ever and came up with 127 results when the scan finished. Of the 127 exactly 1 posed me any real threat, which was the reason I had run the scan as my firewall had picked it right after it got in, the rest were all for the most part harmless, tracking cookies for various websites and online flash games, so on and so forth.
Windows has its security problems, even if you're smart you can't always prevent everything, but by no means is there some sort of torrent of evil computer killing viruses bombarding you all the time. So give it a rest I'm tired of hearing this same nonsense arguing from both sides. If you get a Mac, get it because it's a well built machine with a sleek and simple interface, not because it's going to save you from all the big scary viruses out there.
P.S. I'm still waiting for the day someone gets bored enough to create a real virus for OSX. They'll take down 40% of OSX based systems in a week. Just hope it doesn't get mine.
Now that is definitely something that I agree with. I think I was biased when I wrote that. Viruses are but one of the many reasons that I am switching to Mac. The iLife suite, compatibility, and general cohesiveness of the infrastructure of Macs are basically why I'm buying that machine. As someone who has used both, though, I just plain like the way Macs run better than windows.
If all you want is a "virus-free Windows", then you will probably get a bit frustrated with Mac OS X.
If you actually want something that is different to Windows, then you will probably like any other platform you switch to.
MAC Vers. Windows
MAC is so much better than Windows! I use both and I have a laptop with Windows in the living room and Mac in the office. Now if I had a 65" Sony in the Office than I would be good. I have never had a problem with my MAC but the Windows is problematic. I have bugs all over this thing but the MAC is clean as can be...... All your choice but the choice is yours so things will sense in the end. The MAC is a great machine and I love it!!!!! I'm sure you would love it too. Its just a little different but lots of fun!
What a difference 3 months make
You seem to have made the switch quite well and, judging by your post, are enjoying life with your Mac.
I think we would all be happy with that 65" Sony hanging on the wall of the office or the den.
Just a quick point, the computer you have is a Mac, short for Macintosh.
MAC stands for Media Access Control. Those unique (almost) numbers that an Ethernet card or Wireless card are allocated.
MAC stands for lots of things
by alexia.del.france-21384047308732688935400766257863 - 11/26/08 3:37 PM
The only OS I've ever used is Windows. For a while I never even HAD security software on my notebook because unless you're an ignorant moron, you can avoid getting viruses and their ilk without even needing it. The only reason you'd really need it that I can see is if you use BitTorrent software, or some other kind of peer-to-peer communication. As stated above, Macs have fewer viruses because there are less of them than Windows computers. Also, Apple definitely does overprice everything they sell, which can be a deterrent to wanting to buy a Mac, and they do it because they're one out of two companies that sell Macs, and the second company may very well be forced into going out of business.
Honestly, it really just depends on what you want to do with your computer. In most cases, I'd go with a Mac, unless you don't want to buy a copy of a Windows OS and are afraid some software you'd want to use isn't compatible with the version of Mac you want. However, there are some exceptions. If you're a gamer, such as myself, or if Apple's computers don't have high enough specs that you want or need, then go with a Windows computer, as their hardware is much more varied, including hardware with higher specs than Apple's, and they offer a better price for the money.
Also, as mentioned in a previous post, Apple DOES want to have exclusive rights to the Mac OS as stated in the EULA. It's the reason they started feuding with Psystar, the second company I mentioned, in court, because Psystar has built their own Macs. However, if you want a Mac but want the specs of a Windows computer, you can try building a Hackintosh, which DOES violate the EULA, but as long as you don't start selling them and anyone from Apple hears about it, then you're not in trouble with Apple. The downside to that however, is that you may not know how or want to build a computer, and that it totally voids the warranty and you can never receive support from Apple for that computer. Of course, you can always buy a computer from Psystar, but if they lose in court, well... that may not be good. You can check out CNET's review of Psystar's computer for more info here: http://reviews.cnet.com/desktops/psystar-openpro/4505-3118_7-33318861.html?tag=mncol;lst
by alexia.del.france-21384047308732688935400766257863 - 11/26/08 3:42 PM
I didn't think to also include the link for their other computer, found here: http://reviews.cnet.com/desktops/psystar-open-computer/4505-3118_7-32978558.html?tag=mncol;lst
Good and bad
From my personal experiences with both OSX and Vista/XP I've been able to come up with a few things that really sum up the good and bad.
OSX- Good: I think the most important part here and really what makes a differnce for most people is that OSX is essentially idiot proof. Everything works in the same way with the same basic menus and what not, and its pretty hard to really screw things up and the OS really doesn't let you change much about it.
Vista/XP- Good: Yes I'm bundling those two into one, don't bug me about it. The good here is that there is a huge user base for windows. This means that there will be a large amount of software of almost every type available. The other nice thing is that, compared to OSX, Vista/XP are realativly customizable.
OSX- Bad: The very thing that makes OSX great for some can be a deal killer for others, in this regard I'm refering to it being idiot proof. In making it in such a way the OS is very difficult to change around which can be annoying for people like me who tend to change things until they work exactly how i want them. The other bad is that while there is a significant (and passionate) user base, it is no where near the size of the windows user base. This means that the amount of 3rd party software will be significatly lower.
Vista/XP- Bad: STUPID PEOPLE WILL BREAK IT, STUPID PEOPLE WILL BREAK IT. It's really that simple, I deal with it all the time. Other then that, there are a few actual points here. First, Vista/XP have a slight learning curve for a lot of things as each software developer has their own style for their own software. Second, your OS's stability is really heavily based on the hardware you have it on, and a lot of PC manufacturers out there are just plain bad.
That's just a short run through of things, there is deffinelty a lot more to be said about both sides. A note about what I've said: I have little experience with Mac hardware so I haven't really gone into the differences there between Macs and Windows machines.
Mac Vs Windoze
Like the man said. Viruses are written for Windoze.Besides which I cant stand Gates. My windesktop freezes and or crashes evryday. My Mac can sit there with 10 programs running, downloading, etc and keep getting up. Its the way of the future. Its Unix based for one thing. If I didnt run Mac I would run Ubuntu or some other form of Linux(Which I just installed on my desktop) The first week I got my Mac I was little unsure. But I found I didnt have to dispose of my two button mouse.That was the only advantage win ever had. Two button mouse. Now if you are really missing windoze you can always run it in MAc. I dont know why you would want to. Windoze has two prgrams Idlike to see in Mac, Irfanview and Cardfile. But Keychain access does what I used cardfile for.(Cardfile was discontinued after 3.1 anyway, but I kept it)Get the Mac. You wont be sorry.
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I work with 2 friends
in a home office. When I started with them, 4 or 5 years ago, they used PC's, I used a Mac as I always have. A few years went by, and one of them noticed that I had spent no time re-booting my system, re-formatting my hard drives, etc. but just powered up and went to work, whereas they had spent weeks on such non-productive tasks. They also noticed it took under a minute, one or two clicks, to install new software. And so on.
The light was seen, they are both Mac users now. Start a forum for former Mac users who have moved to Windows; very little traffic I imagine.
Let me start by saying I am not a computer novice, so some of my points may be biased, so please feel free to correct me if I am wrong.
I use, very efficiently, Windows XP, VISTA, MAC OSX, Linux, and UNIX.
The discussions about the "better system - MAC or PC" I think has NEVER really been addressed in any proper way. I read a review recently, and the author made mention that he was tired of stupid fanboy reviews/discussions about the better OS - but then mentions in his review about the amount of lights on PC's versus MAC's - what the hell????
I think people who are trying to decide on purchasing one or the other are not really been given the truth and what makes one better than the other - in some circumstances. Let me state NO SYSTEM IS BETTER!!!
There are things that each system offers that should be the deciding factor on choosing your next system, here are a few points, my thoughs on using them as criteria, and hopefully some proper guidance for that newbie (or want to be newbie!:))
1. Windows has more programs available - yes it does, but NO person runs them all, try to figure out what you need to do, and see which OS offer's that - if both do, then you are off to a great start (more than likely they do). The exception comes to games, where the PC kills! But you can normally find more than enough programs to practically do anything on both systems.
2. MAC is more stable - really? I have read posts where people state that they have problems with their PC's and never had a problem with their MAC - REALLY? I have had my PC's for quite awhile - yes I run my antivirus software (don't on my MAC), and don't go to sites that ANYONE can tell they will get infected - and I NEVER had a problem - I saw another post where the author indicated that you only need to restart a MAC once a month or so - really of an OS update - I have done that on my PC - I did not restart it for a YEAR!!! PC's are more vunerable to viruses - but have you read one of the MAJOR reasons for the MAC OSX 10.6 (Snow Leopard) release - read it properly - the possibility of virus attacks means that Apple must make it more secure. It is the world we live in, and PC's are the target - they are the world dominator.
3. Ease of use - many people state that Apple is more intutive, easier to use etc etc, and I disagree, the both systems are easy to use, they have their own ways of doing things and both ways have their good and bad - it is a personal choice - one major plus of Windows is its configurability - you can practically theme the crap out of Windows to resemble anything you want - like the MAC OSX dock, but have XP/VISTA? - theme it, and you are practicaly running on a MAC. This is where MAC falls shy - it does not allow the user to have that flexibility in configuration - think about Firefox vs IE.
4. Cost. It is true that MAC's generally cost more than PC's - but if you get a good quality PC - the costs are about the same - the real issue is the budget purchaser - s/he will find a PC closer to their budget faster than they will find a MAC. Sub $500 PC's are common place - not on the MAC side.
5. Hardware. MAC fanboys have also used the arguement that Apple makes the hardware and the OS - so it will work better together - what? So they don't use (used to use Motorolla) Intel chips? Ahat about the high end video cards, sound cards, etc, etc - Apple makes them all? NOPE. No company can be the answer to everything - and because you design the OS does not mean you would make the best printer/sound card/video card - so really dumb argument. The problem has been that Windows tries to satisfy every suer out there, and sometimes leaves things a bit too "open" - hence the problems that they are faced with. MAC/Apple on the other hand has not been open with their OS - and this is one of the main reasons why it lags behind in its marketshare. But this is their strategy - and I will not say with business strategy is better.
Well I hope this helps at least 1 reader to make the proper choice - no system is better, and because your best friend uses PC or MAC does not mean it is the best solution for you. Do you research - know what you want to do - a PC?MAC (Computer) really is only good for 3-5 years - after that the number of changes in technology may substantiate a new purchase - this is not always true (let's say all you do is check your emails, probably write some letter's etc - you computer will last longer), for those who wants to edit/create movies, audio editing, graphic designing etc, a PC every 3 years is not unheard of. Don't buy a PC that will last you for the next 15 years is what I am saying, if you are unsure where and what you want to do, no need to to buy the Ferrari to pick up the kids - buy the Civic, and then in a few years make a more informed purchase.
Windows PC switches to MAC PRO. The good and not so good!
Were a small photography studio here in the Temecula Valley Wine Country. Having used the MS PC stuff for 20 plus years, we recently decided to enhance our primary studio computer system to a new MAC PRO. We got the new 2009 Mac Pro 4-CORE version at 2.93G with 8G of memory. We expected a new exciting experience with using a system that touts itself on having the best-in-class workflow for creative design especially for photography. Were having issues achieving those goals and asking for some assistance from the MAC pros out there. I will list our issues and grade on OUR experience from A-F for OUR studio needs:
A bit surprising that our older Windows XP with CS4 Design Premium actually out runs our new MAC PRO. We have done all the stuff listed on the Apple and Adobe site to maximum performance but its just not as fast.
Ease of use: A
This was expected. Very clean user start up and interface.
Flexibility and Configuration: D
One of the biggest disappointments. Things like sorting folders and subfolders so the arrangement is like humans think. Not. I cannot find a way to have my folders float to the top of the Finder lists. I read all the notes and suggestions that I should put a space or special character on my folders so they sort. This in not the Apple experience expected. I cannot find a way to alter the mouse cursor. Small black arrow is not ideal for my style of photography. It gets lost. Cant believe Apple does not have a way to select a mouse cursor.
In basic mode the MAC Pro works fine. But pushed to its limit with Photoshop Extended and onOne filters causes faults from screen issues to total system crashes. We never had one crash with Windows XP on the identical configuration.
The MAC has its own mind and decides when it will mount to our office network or not. Several calls to Apple Support was useless and they even admitted that Apple really only works well on Apple networks. Thats not good as we have over 27 Terabytes of photos on the net. Funny that the PCs on the net find the MAC and can view read/write to its files just fine. But, the MAC has all kinds of issues in reverse.
Were going to stick with the MAC Pro with an assumption new updates to the OS will help. I hear rumors that the next OS update will support CS4 in 64-bit mode and hopefully allow more configurations with the user interface.any suggestions from this group is appreciated..Dan
PC vs MacPro
by haifengni - 6/20/09 4:04 AM
In Reply to: Windows PC switches to MAC PRO. The good and not so good! by dan-photo
I guess the Mac Pro 2009 is an i7 based W3500 sequence Xeon? What is your PC that outruns it?
Suggestion to try
by Former NT Guy - 8/21/09 11:19 PM
In Reply to: Windows PC switches to MAC PRO. The good and not so good! by dan-photo
I would suggest monitoring the memory utilization on your system while running your Photoshop tasks. You may be running into memory swaps causing the system to bog down.
The crashes you report are likely caused by Adobe not porting Photoshop to 64 bit or possibly with the filters you are using. I am a little surprised that you did not opt for the 8 core system, but it still should be able to process the workflow although slower.
If you are running into memory issues (page outs/swap used), you can easily add memory via third party suppliers such as macsales.com much cheaper than Apple. I have 16GB installed on my system and have yet to run into any memory issues.
As for the cursor, you might want to check out http://www.macchampion.com as they have some beta software that looks like it would work for you.
Check the Service Order under Networking and ensure that Ethernet is at the top of the list. Next check under the Advanced Tab that everything looks alright. You may need to set it manually and possibly change the MTU setting other than 1500 for your specific network.
If you have a Network Team (or person) they should be able to know what is the correct setting.
Also, try moving the system to another port and or swapping out the patch cable to the port. I have seen bad ports and/or bad patch cables cause systems to drop off the network in the past.
If you have a managed switch, you can have your Network Team (person) check the port for errors too.
For what it worth.
I'm the I.T. Coordinator for my office. 285 people almost 500 computers all PC. I get a brand new, high speed, low drag laptop from Dell for personal use at least every year...it never leaves its bag. Why? I run all Macs at home.
The reason I only run Macs at home..I don't have to support them...I just use them.
Let your needed and favorite apps
drive your decision. I like OS X but at the office have little choice but to use MS. At home I use my son's iBook with 10.5.6 and as I grew up with UNIX, poking around OS X is not foreign to me.
For office suites, I've used through MS Office 2003 and never particularly cared for any flavor. Nothing really wrong but especially after 97, too many unneeded bells and whistles. OpenOffice is getting as bloated and trying too hard to be MS Office. I do like Calc better than Excel. Lotus SmartSuite is available but at end of life with IBM. I really like Corel WordPerfect. It has had stable consistent development since version 6 though some addons in one version are removed in later versions such as CorelCentral. It is like an old friend that just makes minor improvements that are really improvements and yet manages to stay current. However, it is not available for OS X or Linux so that is a deal killer for me as to these OSs. My contact management system that I prefer is Lotus Organizer though it too has reached its end of life with IBM. The alternative it from a company named Time and Chaos. Both of these are also not available for OS X so again Windows.
A new product from Corel shows some promise, Lighting but it too is only offered for WIndows.
I like OS X but the way I work and apps I work with are not supported on OS X and while it is possible to run MS on OS X it does not make logical sense.
Have you tried iWork? It contains truly a truly elegant word processor, spreadsheet and presentation program, which are not nearly as bloated as those in Microsoft Office. If you have not tried this suite, I think you might be pleasantly surprised. It is quite reasonably priced, too. I have not used contact managers, other than Address Book on the Mac, so do not know which option might suit you there.
Windows will NEVER be as good as Mac OSX
Lets have a little history lesson here folks. In the 1990's Bel Labs invested millions to recreate the OS known as UNIX. The job was headed by Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson, they were both awarded The National Medal of Technology for their efforts. At it's core UNIX is created to be a true multi user multi tasking stable secure server OS. Today virtually every internet server in the world runs on either UNIX or Linux which is based on UNIX.
In 2005 Apple made the decision to move from Motorola based processors to Intel. When they did this they had to completely rewrite their OS and they used UNIX (well actually NeXSTEP but that's based on UNIX) as the foundation, very smart choice. They basically put their own shell on top of UNIX / NeXSTEP.
Windows to this day is still based on MS-DOS albeit buried pretty deep now. MS-DOS really is not an OS it's a simple hardware interface that was written by a guy named Tim Peterson in the late 1970's. At that time no one had any concept of the world wide web and DOS was written with the single computer single user in mind. It was never written for security or multi user multi tasking in mind. This is why windows as we know it is so insecure and always will be.
So to sum up, Mac OSX is based on an award winning program written in the 90's at great expense by Bel Labs that was designed to be secure, stable, multi user, multi tasking. A program that runs virtually every internet server in the world is what Mac OSX is based on. Windows is based on a program that was written by some guy in his basement in the 1970's that's never won anything.
This is why windows will NEVER EVER be as good as Mac OSX.
Slight correction here.
The move from Motorola happened a few years before OS X was a developed system.
Apple left the Motorola '030 and '040 processors behind when they went with the IBM G3 processor and through to the G4 and G5 processors. (Some were built by Motorola, but not many)
The move to OS X happened in 1999 with the OS X server and 2000 with the release of the public beta of 10.0
In 2002 there were rumors of a Mac capable of running OS X with an x86 processor but it wasn't until 2005 that Steve Jobs announced the move to Intel processors. OS X, by this time, was 5 years old and on version 10.4.x
Apart from that, I agree with you
Apple switched to intel in 2006.
No you're wrong the move from motorola to intel happened in 2005 with computers shipping in 2006 if you don't believe me here it is from Apple.
Let me clarify, you are right in that IBM was PowerPC actually it was a joint motorola-IBM-Apple venture. When I refer to the move to Intel from motorola I was referring to the Power PC chip so, my bad.
Apple switched to intel in 2006.
No you're wrong the move from motorola to intel happened in 2005 with computers shipping in 2006 if you don't believe me here it is from Apple.
Not worth arguing about,
You will note that I said that the announcement was made in 2005 and made no mention of the actual shipping date.
Don't see how that is different from your statement "No you're wrong the move from motorola to intel happened in 2005"
I am a Student!!!!
Lissen to me, I am in grade 9
I am using a mac book ( the black verson)
I use it to type my notes and what not,
Befor my mac i used an acer computer, it was the worst thing i ever bought,
I love how osx is very easy to use and even my dog can... JK
But I have never had to reinstall OS X but when was on a windows computer I had to reinstall ever few weeks to keep my system running.
Apple has time macheen for backing up and it wokrs like a charm, I have used it to get some of my papers back for exams and what not.
You can also run windows to play some games. I don't as i have a 360
But I would look at a mac book pro 15" as that is a tough computer and is also a good laptop
Sorry but your experience is likely user error more than the Mac OS. First off, it's not the computer as much as the OS driving it. Mac's are overpriced. The equipment they offer is not better than anyone else despite Apple's claims. What you are paying for is the development costs of their OS and the large volume of support personnel. Keep in mind that relatively speaking Apple has a low market share and yet has a large support staff for that share. I myself have experience 3 major hardware failures within 3 years on my iMac. Check that against 3 other brand, HP, Compaq (pre HP), and Dell. I can't seem to break these other machines. The Compaq is a basic notebook that has flown off my wife's Suburban roof more times than I can count. Other than scratches the thing has survived.
Now on to OS's. I have used everything from VAX to Unix/Linux, NeXT, BeOS, basically every Microsoft flavor (pre-Win up to current Win), Dr-DOS, and every flavor of Apple OS. Every OS has pro's and con's. Frankly Win 7 has been the best hands down. I have little or no restrictions on software availability or Web add-on access. Unix/linux is right in there with Windows. For the occasional bad guy that tricks the system with a addware I can generally eliminate the intruder very easily without authoring scripts. However, on the MAC OSX life is a different story. For instance I have a simple case for you. Go to the WTTW or some other public station and load in the add-on for the Why Flyer game for kids. Now reboot your mac and open up Safari. Within a few minutes you will get a nice little audio surprise that, depending upon your speaker volume, will make your kid wet themselves. Now go in and try to eliminate that add-on. Can't do it without a complete system reload. Sure Apple blame's Adobe for the Flash add-on, but frankly it's Apple's restrictive practices that led to the issue! Furthermore, for the security minded individual, on an install script all a bad guy has to do to is set the "require permissions" to false and wait for the typical Mac user to say install me. Bingo, they can install a program to control your system. I did a nice demo at a Apple store to teach the 11th grade salesperson a lesson in this. His manager doesn't like me in the store now thanks to my demo being shown on the multiple flat panels along the store wall.
Finally, OSX is definitely less intuitive than Windows. Most people can blindly do what they need to do on a Win driven PC. Mac's on the other hand are trying so hard to be easy that they become difficult to use. The exception is the iPhone which I find to be the best and easiest portable OS to use. The only exception there is a lack of flash and WMA support. That irks me, but because it is Apple I know I have no choice.
Frankly my iMac is an overpriced Web email reader. It's kinda like an iPad. If you want to do real work get a Win, Unix, or linux driven PC.
And after all that "experience"
And after all that "experience" you still go off on a rant that doesn't seem to have anything to do with the post you responded to.
Most of your rant, the coherent parts anyway, seems to be a case of you just not knowing how to do a particular thing and being too lazy to google it.
Couple of things to keep in mind:
1: No one cares how many different operating systems you can rattle off, because there's always someone who can rattle off more
2: If you're going to reply to someone's post, try and keep it related to something said in that post
3: Repeat after me: My experiences do not represent the sum total of everyone else's
4: Whatever yours or my opinion of Apple's practices (I tend to agree to some degree) you can't argue with the fact that they've gone from being 6 months away from going out of business to being one of the single most profitable companies in the world, so they must be doing SOMETHING right. In that same time period, Microsoft has seen its fortunes reverse, going from a major powerhouse to a former superpower desperately trying to hold on as its empire slowly slips through its fingers
5: Can't imagine why a store manager wouldn't want you in their store when they're trying to run a business and you're just trying to stroke your ego proving that you're smarter than an 11th grader. Why you feel the need to prove that is something you may want to ask yourself. If I were the store manager, I'd boot your sorry arse out too
Use whatever you like, it's nothing to me, but ask yourself why it matters to you what other people use? Who exactly are you trying to convince you're right, everyone else, or yourself? Who uses what operating system isn't the usual zero sum game. My using a Mac in no way means that you are unable to use Windows, Linux, FreeBSD, or whatever else. So go right ahead and use Windows if that's what works for you... Except that clearly you're exaggerating the situation significantly or you wouldn't feel the need to be an overbearing smug sod about it. You're seeking validation in convincing others that yours is the "correct" way, which says that your own convictions in your beliefs are not very strong. However, if others come to think the same way as you, then surely you must be right. Well, no, it doesn't as a matter of fact. I don't care how many people are members of the Flat Earth Society, it doesn't make them any less wrong.
Next time you feel the need to post something like you did, you should maybe instead devote that time and energy to a little introspection evaluating the motivations behind your actions. Your post is literally dripping with insecurity right from the very beginning and continuing all the way to the end. Maybe you should seek to figure out why you're so insecure on this subject and maybe seek to eliminate that insecurity rather than reinforce it.