a little help with new imac, please
by EsmeH - 2/23/08 8:12 AM
In order to upload a video tape, must i download the software from the hndycam first, or is the new mac capable of dealing with the tape through its own program?
by: EsmeH February 23, 2008 8:12 AM PST
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Is the software for Mac?
Unless the software which came with your cam could install and run on a mac then the answer is yes. If not you will not need it, and the handycam will work well with imovie.
the handycam instructions say it (the software for computers) works for mac as well as windows, so i shall utilize it.
The tutorials for the idvd were rather brusque.....would it be worth it to pick up one of those 'dummy' books or just hire a mac tutor to save me the time and frustration of trying to follow instructions written by someone who takes for granted that all of us newbies are familiar with computers?
also, how do I permanently set the typeface larger, instead of continually going to view and resizing for every window? This is a larger screen but the type opens up soooo small.....
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are you referring to my question?..I am now totally confused. Just give me a straight answer as to where I am to ask my questions. So sorry if I am not following proper protocol, but all these 'threads' and different 'forums' are a bit inter-related...
what is a 'mod'??
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Hope this helps a little.
It would be very helpful if you could tell us exactly which camera you have.
Some cameras have a firewire output with which you connect your camera to your Mac. Again, more information required here. What Mac did you get?
If you camera has a firewire output, also known as iLink, IEEE1394, DV out, then iMovie and NOT iDVD would be the program to use.
If you have the firewire output, then iMovie will almost certainly start when you connect the camera to your Mac.
Some new camera's only have USB output, but iMovie8 can import video from those cameras.
So, check the manual that came with it and get back to us with the information.
i have a sony HC 96 (new) and it has a software cd for use when uploading to a computer. I suppose I should just load it and follow the instructions. My question was because when I got my last still camera nikon sent a similar cd software that i put i the computer, but when putting my photos in the computer, it seemed that the dell utilized it's ow program to view the photos. And it seemed like a waste of space to have the nikon 'view' program .
of course i could be totally wrong on this, as I know very little about computers.........
You will find that most camera manufacturers send a CD with their equipment.
In the case of a still camera, like you Nikon, you do not need any software if you are running OS X.
iPhoto, and OS X, will take care of mounting your camera and importing your pictures into iPhoto (hence your Mac).
Do you use iPhoto on your Mac?
Thanks for the video camera information, if you could just tell us what Mac operating system you are using or what Mac computer you have or when you got it, we will have the rest of the puzzle.
If you camera is the HDR-HC9 MiniDV HD Handycam Camcorder, then you have no problems at all and you do not need any software from SONY. This camera comes with an IEEE1394 connection. This connection is referred to by Sony as an iLink connection.
You just plug one end of the supplied cord to the camera and the other to the Firewire port of your Mac.
Start iMovie, turn on the camera and go from there. You can control the camera, playback, stop, pause, etc., all from iMovie.
Now, if your camera is NOT the HDR-HC9, let us know.
I'm sure you are familiar with what a USB plug looks like
You may have two types of connecting cord that was included with your camera. One would be the USB connection and the other the Firewire.
If the connector on the cable looks like the one from your keyboard, mouse or printer, do not use it.
i have a handycam DCR-HC96. This is a new camera. My IMac is less than a week old and i dont know the model (even the relatively useless 'everyting mac' booklet gives me no clues). could be why i am feeling so lost!
the software for the video cam is Picture Package. I get the idea from the manual (i am still trying to get familiar with that item) that this software will also upload an 'how to' guide ('first step')--which for folks like me might be useful.....unless the idvd or imovie program in the mac goes about things differently!
I also have what looks to be a usb cable for video to computer and another cable wt 3 jacks which could be video to tv??? although the manual does refer to an ilink cabe for making direct dvds............but i don't think it is mentioned i the package that i rec'd.
Is it any wonder people like me get totally frustrated. Here I sit surrounded by manuals ad software cds not to ention ables. Please see if you can advise me.
1-do i need the sony softare, even if just for the uploaded manual?
2-is making a dvd difficult?
3-which application do i use IDVD or IMovie...and what is the difference?
Would it make sense to buy a 'dummies' book and try to figre this out myself, or would a tutor be advisable??
Lordy, i am an educated woman, but am not sure i want to spend hours reading and researching how to use my new coputr! Eeryone said mac was easier than windows!! (sorry to vent and whine like a baby!)
Answers to those questions
1. No, you do not need the Sony software for anything. Usually you do not need the manufactures CD for a Still or Video Camera.
2. No, it is quite easy. Just takes a little practice.
3. You use iMovie to capture and edit the video that you have stored on the tape in your Camera.
When you are happy with what you have, you save it and then you send it to iDVD to produce the actual DVD.
Your computer is almost certainly an iMac with Leopard (OS X 10.5.x) as the operating system. At the top left of the screen you will see an Apple. Click it and choose About this Mac. In the next window, click More Info. The first screen (Hardware Overview) will tell you a lot about your computer.
Did you buy this for yourself or was it a present?
Hopefully you have a BroadBand connection to the Internet. DSL or Cable is good. Make sure you have run the Software Updater. It probably came up when you first started your computer up. You need ALL the software updates that appear in that list.
Somewhere in that collection of cables that you have, is the iLink (Firewire) cable. That is definitely the one you need. If it did not come with one, you can get them from Circuit City or Best Buy or even Radio Shack. One end, the camera end, will look exactly the same as the USB cable but the other is completely different. Take the camera with you and insist on a Firewire cable.
The 3 jack cable is almost certainly the camera to TV connections. Your camera is a High Definition device and the best connection for HD is the three color connections.
There is a series of books in the "For Dummies" range. OS X for Dummies and iMovie08 for Dummies would be suitable.
The most important thing is to "play with it" and you will be surprised how easy it is to produce a movie.
Find that cable! This is very important. It is how you will move the video from the camera into your Mac.
I would also like you to go to this Site and run through all the tutorials for iLife 08. They will help you a lot.
Mac's are easy, you just jumped in at the deep end and forgot to take your flotation device with you!
I'm not sure you should go for a tutor at this early stage.
Let us know how you get on.
Yep, I bought it myself!
I was overloading photos in my old dell and did some asking around after i made the commitment to buy a new comp. and all signs pointed to the new imac!
I followed your advise and did the updates (14 of them and it took about an hour to do!!--jeez!). I looked under the apple icon (about my mac) for info and I have 2.4 ghz processor and 3gb memory) I also opened up my applications to check out the software and looks like i have lots of stuff. where to begin? I do have dsl and I had someone set the new comp and dsl up for me. Should I go to systes preferences and mess around??
re: video cam...it only came with the 2 cables (usb and 3 jack one) so I will have to buy one- ilink. Now, to start, can i just transfer my tape straight into dvd no editing no nothing? I am a bit overwhelmed and just want to start slow..............I am not quite ready to make 'a movie', just want to start with putting my daughter's recital on a dvd. when i am more confident, I can play with the same tape and work on editing, etc,....right?
just to make things completely crazy i have the photoshop elements i just downloaded, and will now have to learn that program, as already it looks different than what i had on the dell.....
I have gone through some of the ilife tutorials, and they are really minimal.......but i will have to start somewhere.
I have so many questions (small needling ones) that I think I might just call the apple help line (i am good for 90 days) and go down my list. the queries are pretty simple , but too many to waste your and the other folks on this page's time.
i just love these forums...that is how i decided which handycam to purchase. but, just like the internet, they take lots of time!
thanks so much,
For now I would stay out of the System Preferences. No need to go "messing around" as everything seems to be working for you.
iDVD pretty much relies on iMovie to supply it with video but if you launch iDVD you do get the "make a magic movie" option.
Check it out.
Which ever way you go, you have to get the video into the iMac and for that you need that missing cable. Sony says it comes in the box, if it is not there, go back to the supplier.
Getting the video into iMovie is "starting out slow". The production of the DVD is the end product.
Putting video into iMovie is not a definite invitation to edit it. You can just put it in as is, save it and get iDVD to put it onto a DVD for you. It is not just a question of putting the video onto a DVD, it has to be rendered so that it will play in another DVD player.
One of the reasons the tutorials are so minimal is because the process is really quite easy. You'll see that when the missing cable turns up. Until then, all of this is pure conjecture.
PhotoShop Elements is a good photo editing software. Store your stills in iPhoto, basic editing inside there, and you will find that you have room for thousands of pictures. iPhoto keeps them all organized for you.
Belive me, you are not wasting anyone's time by asking simple questions. Without people asking simple questions we would all be looking at a blank page.
Remember, one persons simple question is anothers major stumbling block.
Feel free to ask away.
ok, i think i can do this......but in my sony manual it lists the items supplied with the camera and does not include this ilink/firewhatever wire. the manual says:
power cord (for the handycam station and adaptor
av connectig cable
but later in the manual when it discusses copying recordings from tape (for the mac) it says connect with the ilink cable! But that paragraph is in teeny,weeny print, and I totally missed it the first three times i looked it over!
So, I will get the cable today and start messing with it.
I also called up the mac support line as i couldn't get the mail program to interact with my e-mails, and they told me I needed certain info from the server (how would I have known?) and then i need to call back. and while i had him on the phone he configured my right side of te mouse (again, how would i know i could do that?) the learning curve could be very, very wide for me, but i will push on! and thanks for letting me know that i can continue to utilize this forum without overstaying my welcome..
Regarding the email setup.
To be fair, the information required by the mail program is the same information that was required by the mail program you used on the Dell machine.
All mail programs, on whatever computers, need to know where to go to collect the mail.
I'll give you the Right Mouse Button, but if you think that it would be nice to do something, check out the Help section at the top of the screen. Use real words, like "How do I configure the right mouse button"
If that fails to return anything, try the same words in Google but add "in OS X" to the string. Works wonders.
Remember, if you could do stuff on your Windows machine, you can do it on your Mac.
do i need to buy the ilink cable from sony, as is mentioned in the handycam manual - or is a generic from circuit city just fine??
It will either be a four pin or 6 pin.
They come in a number of combinations, 6 to 6, 4 to 4, 4 to 6.
Any one of the above will work. Take a look at the iLink connection on the camera and at the Firewire port on the back of your iMac. Firewire has a symbol that looks like a radiation symbol.
The cable you get must be completely different at either end.
I will get the cable today...i looked on the back of the imac and see 2 ports with the 'radiation' type icon. And they both have different configurations. Is that important?
i am feeling a bit more confident (of course I have called both sony support - firewire cable does not come with my handycam -and mac for help setting up the mail-of course that is giving me trouble!!) and will attempt this video and might een give the editing thing a shot!!
i also went into systems (with mac support help) and set my mouse to use the right click and changed my screen saver--that one I did by myself!). this could be kinda cool at some point in the (hopefully) near future.
The current iMac has two versions of Firewire. The standard one, usually just called Firewire but also known as Firewire 400 and the newer version, called Firewire 800.
As you would surmise, the 800 version is twice as fast as the 400 version, or close enough for government work.
The two plugs, and sockets for that matter, are completely different you would not be able plug a 400 into an 800 and vice versa.
You will be using the 400 version with your camera. When you look directly into the end of the 400 plug, it looks rather like an old church door. Kinda curved at the top. You can see a picture of one Here. they come in other colors too!
This thread is getting a little long now. Once you have the cable, and you are ready to ask more questions, start a new thread in the same forum.
Hey I have just got this camera and am a recent (happy) convert to my new imac 2.66Ghz but I have followed the instructions you have given but my mac won't import the video from the camera. It just has a blue screen. I tried changing the setting on the camera to hdv but all that does is play the video on the camera and not import. Help
This "could" be your problem.
On this camera, and a lot of others, you have to delete ALL the still pictures you have taken before this will work seamlessly with iMovie.
If you have to take still pictures with that camera, buy a memory stick for it and set the camera to record stills on the stick.
Start a new thread if this does not work for you
New imac - this could be your problem
Thanks for that but this is a new camera too and I haven't got a memory card for it yet, so there are no pictures. Unless........ some how they have been taken on the tape - but that's not possible is it? My partner used this the other day and she may have pressed the wrong button - but I didn't say that!
Connection to your Mac
are you using the USB connection or are you using the IEEE1394(iLink), also known as Firewire, to connect to your Mac?
If USB, then try using the Firewire link. You may not have the cable for this, I don't know if it was included as part of the original package or whether it needs to be purchased.
You can get one at any BestBuy or Circuit City. Even Radio Shack has them.
Hey Have it sorted I think. Thanks. I did have a iee1394 cable (I went and bought one yesterday. I am in NZ so don't have the stores you spoke of. I got it from Dick Smith Electronics - for anyone who needs to know from NZ. I changed the settings on the camera to Auto (HDV/DV) and HDV/DV on in the iLink conv. setting for anyone who needs to know.
Hey imports one lot of video that's cool..... but now I tried to use some video from mini dv tape (Teac DVM60) and it has coloured lines on the camera screen and won't send the picture to the mac again Grrrrrrrrrrrrr............ the other video I have was recorded on a Sony Digital HD Video Mini DV tape ( Sony DVM63
I can't speak for the quality of the video you are importing or about the setting changes you made.
Usually, all that is necessary is to connect the camera to the Mac, via the Firewire cable, turn on the camera and set it to Play mode.
Control of the camera is then possible, usually, via iMovie but you can still control the camera via the Play and Stop buttons on it.
Pressing the Play button, as if you were going to watch your recording on the camera, and then punching the import button in iMovie usually does the trick.
What is the iLink conv?
You are using iMovie and not some software from Sony???
Am definitely using iMovie. The Sony software is PC only. I left the iLink conv as I had it for the other tape. Then I changed it to see if that made a difference. One time I tried with it off (I think - hard to remember as I tried several times) it came up on the camera saying ""NO output image ". Do I just keep trying different combinations. The time I got it with the other tape it worked great. Macs are soooooo cool.
How is the movie coming along?
It's been a while since you set off to the store to buy the firewire cable.
How did things go after that?
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