Xp Service Pack 3
by skippydoodle2 - 9/26/08 7:29 PM
I run XP home on my Computer..do I need XP SP 3?? I'm all up to date on all my previous updates. I've heard pros and cons on installing it..what does everybody else think?? Thanks!
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Xp Service Pack 3
by skippydoodle2 - 9/26/08 7:29 PM
I run XP home on my Computer..do I need XP SP 3?? I'm all up to date on all my previous updates. I've heard pros and cons on installing it..what does everybody else think?? Thanks!
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Yes
by Jimmy Greystone - 9/26/08 7:34 PM
In Reply to: Xp Service Pack 3 by skippydoodle2
Yes. Service packs and other security related updates should be considered MANDATORY.
SP3
by groovyinutah - 10/3/08 11:08 PM
In Reply to: Yes by Jimmy Greystone
I always wait a bit before I d-load the SP Remond puts out just to see what kind of chaos ensues. So I finally got SP3 and the ONLY noticeble effect is that StyleXP no longer works. So I went searching around for a fix and that just turned into more hassle then it was worth. Another instance of microsofts software not being affected while 3rd party programs that do the same thing are rendered useless.
XP Service Pack 3
by Marlene39 - 9/26/08 8:09 PM
In Reply to: Xp Service Pack 3 by skippydoodle2
I am running XP pro, like you are and I know too many people that ran into a lot of trouble with SP3. I done a lot of reading on this subject and maybe is you are really good with computers and a problem arises,you can fix it,
I am not loading SP3 I was told if you have all the other updates ,you should be fine, I will not chance messing up pc more than normal,Out of 10 people who loaded it, 7 have problems,Not worth it in my estimation,
Disagree! So Far, I've Loaded It On 50+ Computers...
by Grif Thomas
- 9/26/08 8:24 PM
In Reply to: XP Service Pack 3 by Marlene39
...and had no problems at all. Home computers, customer's computers, and work computers all have done just fine.. As with all service packs, the key is making sure you "prepare" the computer for the installation.. In my case, I clean out all the junk files, run a number of spyware and virus scans to make sure the computer is clean, run Error Checking/Chkdsk and defrag, and if using an HP computer with an AMD processor, I then install the required update that HP supplies. And when all of that's done, I restart the computer, turn off all antivirus/antispyware programs that are running realtime, then install the standalone/full installer from the link below. (After downloading the full file from the link below, I burn a copy to a CD so I can use it later, if need be.) I DON'T use the online installation.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=5b33b5a8-5e76-401f-be08-1e1555d4f3d4&displaylang=en
And one thing to remember if you choose not to install SP3.. As occurs with all other service packs from Microsoft, eventually you wont' be able to update your computer till you've install the most recent service pack which in this case, is SP3..
Hope this helps.
Grif
As Always
by Jairman - 9/26/08 8:34 PM
In Reply to: Disagree! So Far, I've Loaded It On 50+ Computers... by Grif Thomas
Thanks for the info, you're very helpful and pleasant to work with.
I am a computer novice... I have XP Media Center Edition on a Dell XPS 410, right now I have SP2.
I too have read all the horror stories about SP3. I'm afraid to try it.
I run ZoneAlarm and AVG, I was told that I should turn those off before installing. I guess it's safe?
Also, the link you provided above for DL'ing SP3, says its not for installing on one machine... still ok to use?
Thanks,
The LinkI Posted Is Fine...
by Grif Thomas
- 9/27/08 5:02 PM
It's a large download, about 316 MB, so you'll need a fast, broadband connection to make the download worth it.. Still, the fully downloaded file is designed to allow IT folks to do exactly what I've described.. Download the entire file, save it to a network location or burn it to a CD, then install it on multiple computers. It will work just fine when installing it on a single computer..
Hope this helps.
Grif
installing SP 3 and help with problem with computer
by Marlene39 - 9/27/08 7:20 PM
In Reply to: The LinkI Posted Is Fine... by Grif Thomas
I am running a SYSTEMAX PC from TIGER DIRCT I think its a HP. It has a intel pentium d 3.20G. Reason I put that in is that usually Hp run on AMD. This I am sure of, as I ran belarc advisor, and it has everything in computer,
I think the first time the SP 3 was offered,I downloaded it and it would not finish,
I had so many problems with pc, its 18 months old and had 4 hard drives put in it, thank goodness I have insurance on it,
all I am running in my startup by clock is Mcafee Security Suite,from AOL and ACTIVE SPEED. and AOL. I disabled my Mcafee before installing SP 3 and it started and just went away, I am 86 per cent empty, so I have room for anything,
ANY HELP WILL BE APPRECIATED,
I aslo have another problem,I am new here so if I am in wrong place just let me know and tell me where to go on this
When I start my PC it loads windows ,every thing in startup is loaded, and it depends on temperment of pc, my mouse will FREESE,I cannot use my REBOOT button, I have to do a hard turnoff from machine,wait 2 minutes and restart pc, It starts over ,usually good for awhile,Got to point that is leave screen on always,will not let it got to sleep if I am not using it,I could be in the middle of something and it just freezes up again, I got no ERRORS of any kind and no blue screen of death, Does anyone have any idea what is causing this,or just help me on explaining to my COMPUTER HELP ON PHONE what to say,I am calling MONDAY on this, thanks Marlene
No simple answers
by andrewsjd - 10/4/08 5:26 AM
In Reply to: installing SP 3 and help with problem with computer by Marlene39
The kinds of problems you are facing can have multiple causes from a hardware issue (memory? mouse driver?) to conflicting programs starting up and it may be the cause of your problem installing sp3 as well. It's tough to deal with all the possibilities in a forum like this, but if it was my computer I would probably start with shutting down one startup program at a time (through startup programs using msconfig), and if that didn't work take it to an expert - or an expert friend.
I have a Dell Inspiron B130 and I installed SP3 on my computer since it came out and my computer works faster with SP3 than it did with SP2. I have Zone Alarm and I also have Avast.
Rick
I did it...
by Jairman - 9/28/08 8:44 AM
In Reply to: Jairman, if it make you feel better by PudgyOne
Woke up this morning and straight to the PC. In the system tray was the little yellow shield telling me an update was available. Yup, SP3 was ready.
I scanned my system with AVG, and ran Ccleaner. Closed all running programs and clicked the update.
It only took about 15 minutes and everything went fine. I restarted the PC, it logged right in and everything is running normally.
Thanks CNET Forums. Great advice on this site.
When I go to do stuff in my computer that requires to turn off Anti-Virus, etc, I get all my downloading completed, then just before turn off any security, I reach behind the computer and unplug the wire that connects me to internet. While you are unplugged, it is safe to run with no antivirus. Then, be sure your AVG is working again before you plug your connection wire back in.
Heard BAAAAAD things about SP3 on MCE
I have heard nothing but BAAAAAD things about installing SP3 on a Windows Media Center PCs. Be afraid!!!
Grif, your experience is not typical
by john3347 - 10/4/08 7:45 AM
In Reply to: Disagree! So Far, I've Loaded It On 50+ Computers... by Grif Thomas
Probably due to your skill level in "preparing" more than 50 computers for SP3, you have had no problems. Your experience, though, is not the experience of the more typical computer user. I, and most other home users that I know, have had great difficulties with the installation of SP3. I have installed SP3 on 4 computers and 3 of them had to be formatted and windows reinstalled. SP3 installs smoothly on a fresh windows installation but is not friendly with many, many applications. SP3 appears to have come from the same "cubicle" that Vista came from. Very, very buggy!!!
That's The Point.... Sorry About Your Experiences But...
by Grif Thomas
- 10/4/08 6:56 PM
In Reply to: Grif, your experience is not typical by john3347
The "typical computer user" needs to learn to spend a little extra time when installing such service packs. I understand that you've had problems with the machines you've attempted to update to SP3 but our IT department has installed SP3 on literally thousands of machines (The government agency I work for have approx 10,000 computers), and few have such issues AS LONG AS the machines are prepared and cleaned up before hand. In our experiences, the problems arise from those computers which are infected and haven't been maintained in the first place.
Prior to installation on each of the computers I have personally updated to SP3, I performed a number of steps which took an hour or more to finish. It takes longer to prepare the computer than to install SP3. I cleaned out the junk files, uninstalled any unwanted programs, (especially P2P programs), made sure all Windows and Office Updates were installed, ran a virus and spyware scan, then ran defrag and Chkdsk.. And on those computers which required AMD patches or other patches, I installed those.. And in order to install the service pack, we use the full, downloadable file to install from.. NOT the online installer.
Hope this helps.
Grif
SP3
by d.arbib - 10/4/08 7:13 PM
In Reply to: That's The Point.... Sorry About Your Experiences But... by Grif Thomas
As I said elsewhere in this sequence, originally I had XPpro/SP2 and had some 40 programs and a lot of data (the latter was moved to a slave drive) and I installed from the web SP3. There were some conflicts with programs and in the end I gave up and wiped the drive with KillDisk utility and re-installed XPpro/SP2 and immediately installed SP3 and any additionla M% updates, then one by one re-installed my programs and had no problems.
For thos techincally interested my CPU is water cooled AMD quad 9950 with 4 GB Ram and plug-in HDD's
SP3 & FrameMaker 7
by calarts - 10/5/08 7:26 PM
In Reply to: That's The Point.... Sorry About Your Experiences But... by Grif Thomas
SP3 causes hair-pulling nightmares with linking or embedding objects in FM 7. FM8 works fine.
cal
I cannot install Service Pack 3 Setup
by Carlene Edwards - 10/6/08 8:47 AM
In Reply to: That's The Point.... Sorry About Your Experiences But... by Grif Thomas
I am another novice on the computer, so please bear with me. I am getting the message that "updates are ready for your computer" and "click here to install these updates". I start the installation and a few minutes later, a message comes up that says "Setup cannot copy the file LCLMM.XML. Ensure that the location specified below is correct, or change it and insert 'Windows XP System Files' in the drive you specify."
The box below says "copy files from" with the location "C"\windows\srchasst\muil0409". I'm not sure how I ensure that this location is the correct one or what to change it to. It then asks me if I want to continue without copying this file, and I click no, which cancels the "Service Pack 3 Setup".
I have Norton 360 for virus and firewall protection, and I did not disable it before trying to install this update (didn't know I was supposed to?...like I said, I'm a novice at this stuff.) Help!
So..Have You Followed The Instructions..?
by Grif Thomas
- 10/6/08 9:25 AM
In Reply to: I cannot install Service Pack 3 Setup by Carlene Edwards
...I posted in the link below? If not, please do.
http://forums.cnet.com/5208-6122_102-0.html?forumID=44&threadID=310125&messageID=2868033#2868033
Hope this helps.
Grif
Service Pack 3
by lautay7 - 10/8/08 4:18 AM
In Reply to: I cannot install Service Pack 3 Setup by Carlene Edwards
Service pack 3 was installed on my computer (automatic download) while I slept. For some reason Microsoft likes to update or download at 3:00 a.m. Bottom line: Service pack 3 wrecked my computer! I spent 4 days on the phone with tech support, having to hard shut down my computer because it froze all of the time (hadn't done this prior to Service pack 3). I took my computer in for analysis and repairs.
Unfortunately, nothing could be done. I had to buy a new computer.
My advice: STAY CLEAR OF SERVICE PACK 3!!!!
I now am running Vista, which I hadn't planned on getting for quite some time. Valuable lesson learned: NEVER allow Microsoft to automatically update. With Vista, I am notified of the updates and "I" decide what I want downloaded!!
Service pack 3
by Marlene39 - 10/8/08 6:33 PM
In Reply to: Service Pack 3 by lautay7
I had pc guy over yesterday to put in a new hard drive. My pc is 22 months old, and this is the 5 th hard drive going in,
Has anyone out there know what can be causing this?
running XP PRO .
I ask pc guy about SP 3 if I really need it as I am concern about installing it,reading all problems with it,He said NO if I have all other updates,I will be fine,
I know 6 people that have loaded and it caused nothing but trouble,so I guess I will stay with SP2
XP Sevice Pack 3, No problem
by pnpb - 10/4/08 4:41 AM
In Reply to: XP Service Pack 3 by Marlene39
I have loaded SP 3 on three of my own computers and on my Mom's computer. I have had no trouble at all and I am no expert.
WinXP SP 3
by varase - 10/3/08 11:34 PM
In Reply to: Xp Service Pack 3 by skippydoodle2
While it has been problematic for some users, I run an Intel chipset so it seems to work fine here.
Do note that on all the systems where I've installed it, it does seem to destroy the Recovery Console.
Like always, make sure you have a backup using something like Acronis True Image so you can restore if things go south.
Nowdays, I run on a Mac and it's a relatively simple matter to restore my VMWare virtual machine should something go wrong and kill my windows environment - which happens roughly twice a year.
SP 3 Issues
by nelz124 - 10/4/08 5:20 AM
In Reply to: WinXP SP 3 by varase
I finally loaded up SP3 about a month ago or I should say I tried to. Once installed I could not get Windows to recognize my dsl modem or find the connection. Plus start up suddenly went from 2 minutes to around 8 minutes. I researched all of the advice out there about uninstalling Anti-Virus and Firewalls as well as a couple other tweaks of XP before installing but after 3 attempts to install I gave up. When I finally looked at what I would be missing from not installing SP3 I surmised that most of the update was previous smaller updates packaged together to work better. In my case it really didn't work at all. I turned off the automatic updater so it wouldn't bother me and I update manually now from time to time. I figure I can hold off another year before I am forced to get another computer and then either update to Vista or get out of the Wacko Windows World all together by buying a Mac or switching to a Linux OS.
Bad download for me.
by beckyc3813 - 10/4/08 5:34 AM
In Reply to: Xp Service Pack 3 by skippydoodle2
I downloaded SP3 on a computer less than a year old, and now it is stuck in the reboot loop. No matter what I do, it does not work. I have gone to Microsoft help, message boards, etc., and no luck. I do not have a disk, so that does me no good when they say to install disk.
Guaranteed, when I do get it fixed, I will not install SP3 on it. I have a Dell computer, and most of the ones with problems are HP with AMD....and mine is Intel.
XP - SP3
by shinycars - 10/4/08 5:58 AM
In Reply to: Bad download for me. by beckyc3813
beckyc - You can contact Dell and I was told they'll send you a real XP disk if you need one. Or possibly you could reformat with the Dell recovery disk? Or you can go to pricewatch.com and buy an XP disk for, looks like $72-90. XP makes it easy to reformat and reinstall and it'll be faster than what Dell sent as there's no adware or offers pre-installed.
keith
XP SP3
by beckyc3813 - 10/4/08 1:34 PM
This computer was bought from a computer store, so no kind of CD whatever came with it. The CD is used for numerous computers, so I got nothing. Was told any recovery CD would work. Used a friends, and it ended up installing her Gateway info on it, and XP needs to be validated in 30 days. Sure wish SOMEONE had the right answer for this. Tried contacting the place where I bought computer, but no luck getting ahold of them.
You were ripped off.
by R. Proffitt
- 10/4/08 2:38 PM
In Reply to: XP SP3 by beckyc3813
There are sadly shops that are handing out XP like it was free. There's a sad lesson here and it's very costly. XP runs about 99 bucks after shipping at http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116056
Sorry to read posts like this.
Bob
Bad download for me, also
by carolinalady5 - 10/4/08 6:39 AM
In Reply to: Bad download for me. by beckyc3813
I followed all advice before downloading the Service Pack3. I have a Dell Dimension 2400, Intel (R), Celeron(R), XP Home, Service Pack 2. I've downloaded Service Pack 3, two different times and after each download I got this message; "Windows-Delayed Write Failed" after I brought my computer out of standby or rebooted. I have never had this problem before and after taking Service Pack 3 off of my computer and I haven't had it since. I too went to Windows for help and the forums and didn't get any help for this problem. I also had a problem with access being denied to files, even though I was logged on as the administrator. Haven't had any problems with this since taking off Service Pack 3. Not sure what's in this service pack that my computer doesn't like but it's something I don't want to happen again. I'm not sure if I want to download it a third time.
"Windows-Delayed Write Failed"
by R. Proffitt
- 10/4/08 6:45 AM
In Reply to: Bad download for me, also by carolinalady5
That's not a good sign. When I see that message it's always a bad sign that the hard disk, cable or other part is nearing the end.
Hope you don't have to read what people write at http://forums.cnet.com/5208-10149_102-0.html?forumID=7&threadID=310752&messageID=2872155&tag=forums06;forum-threads
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