Windows Vista forum: Vista Bluescreens already on installation

Oh, some additional detail:
- Running Vista in secure mode works perfectly, no bluescreens
- I ofcourse do not overclock the system
- I am running Windows XP without problems

So I should call myself?

I built the systeme - i bought all the stuff myself and assembled it myself. Many people do it that way. Its the best way to customize your pc to your needs and it is often cheaper then buying a whole pc.

Do I understand correctly that you think it only makes sense to change to vista if the system is vista certified? If so this is the case then what sense would the upgrade adviser make? It is here to tell you if your system will run vista or if not, what changes are required.

If this pc would have been built by some company, believe me, they would have heared from me by now.

Btw, I have an HP NX 9420 laptop and vista runs fine on it (at least technically).

Yes, maybe vista is not that friendly towards home builders.
But at least they did change some details of their rules quite late that are a bit more in favor to them (i dont remember them now in detail but they are about a copy being bound to a system - the rules were loosened there, even though still more strict then with XP).

What do non-hdcp displays have anything to do with home building I wonder, or what do pre-built systems. I think the older both pre-built and home made sysstems are the lower the chance is that they will have problems with vista.
Lately many manufacturers have been busy certifying their hardware (or software) for vista (even the those that are a bit older but still being sold).

Vista being restrictive about what it allows in terms of media is a totally different topic here. I think if anywone wants to discuss that, it should go in another thread.

I guess you are working in the PC area? Would be interesting to hear.
Anyway, i think it natural on will see more home made systems having trouble with vista because people will go to the company that built or sold the system for support, and not try to solve the issue themselves.

Anyway, I have narrowed the problem down already as mentioned in my initial post. If you want, blame me (and all other home builders) for a system that doesnt work...
But from what I see, it is Vista's fault: If it tells me in the provided tool that my system is ok for Vista it should run.
As it does not, either the tool gives false information or more likely, the problem is caused by bugs in Vista, which is not surprising.
Yes, basically vista is stable. But only basically. Drivers are the big variable here. If they do not work because the way vista uses them or the new drivers adapted for vista introduced new bugs (as has been seen, i think) that causes vista to go unstable.
In my case it was unstable even before I installed any drivers (and trying to replace vistas own drivers (like their wddm ones) did not help, here again its the problem that the drivers provided with vista are not mature yet.

Anyway, I think i cannot solve this problem. So unless someone else has an idea I am forced to wait until either upgrades to vista fixes it or I am upgrading my system (to a vista certified motherboard, probably the Asus P5W DH Deluxe).

Anyway, i'm sorry if I sound a bit irritated... it is not my intention to anger you or anybody else here.

Morkeleb. I have a blue screen problem on my own assembled PC too. Mobo Asus P5W DH Deluxe. Tested all 1GB Corsair XMS stiks. Work fine individually, wonderfully in pairs ok if three are installed. Kaput when the last stik is added. Besides getting a lower total memory BIOS reading than 4096MB as the damm machine gulps up 896 MB. Ergo! The problem must be the motherbord itself or Intel's chipset. Not to freak ou again I just left the PC with 3072 MB of memory and bye bye blue screens.

i have reasd at cnet. that vista is very memoty intense! memory that will run on xp wont run on vista! so if you have more than one stick of memory , pull one out and reboot. if same problem persists, put that one back in and take out the other s memory stcik

That is correct. That is how OS's from Microsoft work. If you get a blue screen on install - that is the first indication that you have a peripheral problem such as wrong drivers for video card (usually) or sound card (2nd issue). Normally a mouse will just freeze your screen or any mouse action - but, will continue to load. Now - the worst blue screen problem is if you have a bad stick of memory. How can you tell? Are you getting a "memory" screen dump where Windows (vista, xp, whatever) shows you that it is trying to save a ton of stuff (usually) (hex stuff) to hard drive. You won't get that error type if you have a video or sound issue...the result will just be a frozen blue screen. If you have a hard drive issue - you won't get a memory dump because the pc will just freeze because it can't write to a crapped out hard drive. So - first, check your memory and make sure it is good and counts to the amount you're supposed to have. Second - check your video drivers and don't load any drivers for sound at all until after you get up and running. If it's onboard - turn it off. If it's a card - pull it out. Make sure you're video card is good also. If not - no driver will make it run.

It is no video, memory or harddrive issue.
I checked the memory. The dump is correctly written.
I do not get a freeze, but a bluescreen counting the percent of memory dump that is written.
I replaced the current video card with an older one, with the same results. Both cards work perfectly under windows xp.
Sound drivers are not installed.

Your instructions are however really good general guide to tracking down the source of problem.
I am quite sure that the problem lies with the motherboard.

Anyway, I am trying again with a new install, this time taking the english version. I doubt will change anything, but at least its another check.

As mentioned, I think the only fix to this is either one coming from microsoft (or the drivers they provide) or new hardware. I don't have the money to spend on new motherboard, ram (because a change to ddr2 is in order) and a new cpu (core 2 duo), and the prices will fall quite a bit in one or two months anyway, so I will wait at least until then, probably until summer. Maybe SP 1 for vista is out until then - they said it should be coming second half of 2007.

If you have tips on how to track down the issue further, this would be very welcome!

What do you mean with "terminal"?
New CPU and Motherboard: yes, thats what I stated anyway. To run Vista I would need new ones. But why a whole new pc - I have always built my PC myself - I only upgrade the parts I need and reuse the others to save money. Most of the others are Vista Certified anyway, and still top-of-the range.
And why buy a new pc that probably includes a new harddisk if I already have over a terrabyte of storage (havent lately counted how much it is exactly, though).

And as Vista should still undergo some maturation process its just fine to wait until I can afford the new hardware which, as mentiond, works perfectly on older versions of windows.