Buzz Out Loud Lounge forum: how to live free, can we do it?

HUMAN RIGHTS ISSUE : i am proposing an idea and see how it would work or not. doesnt matter you are in business or employment or unemployed, we all face the same thing. which is money. with money there is issue with having enough or not, rich and poor, healthcare, education, welfrare, benefits, etc etc.. thats all what the gov and politician keeps talking about but yet not interested to solve anything.

suppose everyone is given a choice, what would you propose in order to solve the problem? heres what i will do, whats important in life is actually a few things, it is electricity, water, food, shelter, healthcare and education

i know everyone hates paying electricity bill, what we actually need to do is identify several criteria that generate electricity to the people, im not talking about green energy it doesnt matter. suppose, in a country we are dependent on coal to generate electricity, what actually need to identify so that everyone gets free electricity is we need to own the land which has coal, the next is own the coal mining factory, own the coal processing, own the construction company that build the power plant, own supplier that builds the national grid, etc.. all from top to bottom of the chain.

if the case i mentioned everything is owned by single entity why it would make sense we need to pay for electricity again? i know there are people always say company needs profit and have maintainence, the actual problem is not money, but the infrastructure design from top to bottom either is most efficient or not, and the quality of material used either last for a long time etc, then if it indeed requires human labour, we implement automation to get rid of manpower.

what we see here is we'll get entire electricity infrastructure in a country fully automated and maintainence less. we owned the whole thing and it will no need require any customer or people to pay for electricity. repeat the same thing on water, food, shelter, healthcare, and education sector, could we have live free? can we do it?


frequently asked question

Question : What happen to humans if all the productions can get rid of manpower? The world will be run by automatic systems and we will be kicked out. This doesn't sound like freedom.

Answer : you & everyone else is owner of this automated production, who is kicking you out? last time ive checked its not freedom when everybody needs to foot their bills..



Question : No..... for example someone will have to pay for the upkeep of this infrastructure therefore it's never 'free'. Nice idea but the devil is in the detail and it's totally unrealistic imo. People don't do things for nothing in this world, the human mindset is evolved to think of #1 first and there's very few people (if any) in the world that are 100% selfless.....therefore someone somewhere will always lose out with ideas reliant on community participation.


Answer : i already said, need of maintainence or upkeep is matter of infrastructure design & engineering method. we need to remove those inefficiency and the goal is maintanence less and full automation, nobody needs to bother with this infrastructure later because it is self running and nobody needs to pay for it later. and why people wont participate in this kind of idea? werent theres plenty of people hate about keep doing the same job/thing over and over again? the real job suppose to get it done so that we dont have to do it again not otherwise