Silent Vista-loving majority?
by chustar - 4/30/08 5:37 PM
Is anyone here part of the silent vista-loving majority? I've used it for close to a year without any problems. Come on people, let's get our voices heard!
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by: chustar April 30, 2008 5:37 PM PDT
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Buy any computer with at least Core2duo Processor 2.0 Ghz or above with 2GB of memory and Vista Business. If possible do a CLEAN install or request the manufacturer to install ONLY the O/s. Update with the latest drivers for all your components. Ask Office 2003 SBE OEM edition to be pre-installed (if availanle) and you will have the compatibility with your exisiting files, if not only Office 2007 can be purchased, but check the settings for previously version compatibilites. Don't beleive the anti-vista comments that you have seen. We are a reseller and we've been doing Vista since Nov 2006. You should do fine.. happy vista computing..
Thank you for all your advice, John. Since you are a reseller and know what are required, can I buy the system from you? aqueknyc at hotmail
Office 2003 and Vista
I'm not the pro but thought I'd share thatI've had no problem reading my files from Office 2003. And, I switched to Apple Safari for my web browser as suggested by GenExer68 and my internet access is extremely faster. So, I think that did the trick for me.
If the posting ended at 666.
Not far to go folks!
Well, I've been using Vista ever since one of the early Betas came out, as an official Microsoft Beta tester. I've used both X86 and X64 versions but there weren't enough X64 Apps to keep me using that version.
My latest Gateway, although it's X64 Dual-core, had X86 pre-installed. Lots of crashes every day until the SP1 RC came out. Since then, it's been almost as steady a platform as XP. Regardless, I'm running 2 HDD's, the original Vista Hone Premium X86 and the second with XP Pro X64 installed.
I've seen a few screenies from Windows 7 and it looks so much like Vista :-)! It'll be interesting to see if my prediction that Vista will end up like ME with a short life-span turns out to be accurate.
Ok, I will out myself
I have Vista on my laptop, and I am quite happy with it.
I know it isn't "cool" any longer to do anything but bash Microsoft. And I have quietly, happily gone along and listened as Vista has been bashed constantly... sometimes with very good reasons, but more often not.
Well, now I am out of the closet, and am ready to admit... I like Vista.
I love Vista, wouldn't go back to XP
Vista is all about change. Part of the change is updating the UI and putting a little force behind cleaning up sloppy and problematic programming practices. For several years, Microsoft has been telling programmers to stay away from doing things like requiring local administrator access to run the applications, writing to certain parts of the registry that should be reserved to system-use-only, etc. If coded to these rules, UAC is not a probelem or anoyance at all. (IE 7 and Office 2007 are examples of how apps should behave).
Vista offers blazing fast searching, a beautiful interface, many time-saving benefits to the end user, nice system tools, nice additions to people who use their computers for photos, and many other improvements to the system such as instant wakeup from sleep, etc.
I honestly don't see a noticable difference in performance on desktops or laptops - even older units. As for memory, I've seen XP machines crawl with 256 MB of memory. Bump XP up to 1 - 2 GB and it flies.
One thing that will slow down any machine is Symantec Anti-virus. Now that's a program that will make a computer run slower than all the spyware that its there to prevent!!!
Here's someting impressive. Installing Vista 32 with SP1 included took me 16 minutes to completely load including quick format the drive and reboots. (yes, 16 minutes). I've had SP1 for Vista take well over an hour to install just my itself.
Vista offers great things for adminstrators of many desktop machines as well.
Admittedly, there are a list of things I wish Microsoft would change or do differently. High disk activity is due to WIndows Defender, routine defragment and Indexing Service. Burn from an ISO image, improve photo editing tools, improve video editing tools, include a freaking codec for DVD playing, faster login, etc.
It would be nice if Microsoft would add some new things - really giving people good reason to upgrade. It seems like they are so reluctant to try to innovate in order to avoid impeding on other software developers.
Rolling it out in our institution has been really painless for users. They learned it quickly and it wasn't a big deal at all. It's just an OS. Most of the time people use programs and applications other than the OS. I really don't get all the wining about keeping XP alive forever.
vista is ok
i am of them.. i have no problem with my vista machines. i have been using it for 10 months now.
Loving Vista Silently
I have had minimal problems with Vista. I like it and can't understand what all the hype is about. I have come to the conclusion that too many people resist change and just don't want to be bothered with learning something new.
You are always going to have people who don't like change, particularly when the former OS has a strong fan base. However I think the other major objection is there is not enough new in Vista to warrant the investment in time and energy.
I love Vista personally but completely understand the resistance. MS really stumbled coming out of the gate.
I have used Windows Home Vista Premium for over a year and I'm very satisfied with it I think its time for the cry babies get a life and accept it its here too stay for a few years!. Windows 7 might be a better choice in the future but we'll all have to wait for that to..
whats not to like?
I started in the 90's with Dos and Windows 3..have used every operating system since, lastly XP home.
I have a new laptop with Vista home Premier installed, sure there is a learning curve, I bought 2 simple Vists information books at the bookstore, worked through them and I just love it. True, I had a bit of trouble getting my 1999 Epson Scanner and Printer to work, but with a little work, they do!
Change is good people, and most of the flack comes from peoplethat don't take a little time to learn the new software and may be even a bit lazy. I still use XP on my Tower, I won't up grade that,the machine isn't powerful enough to handle it. Man of the problems come from upgrades that can always be a bit dicey!!
from a 66 year old great grandmother who ain't done yet!!
I amit it I love Vista!
I have been using it for well over a year in fact. I built a computer just for it. i have and Intel 6700 Quad core and 4 GB of RAM. Of course I am using the 64 bit version and I have all the drivers and software I need. I do not have trouble with it at all and it is very secure. In cat I think we should be moving away from 32 bit OS's any way but who am I.
Been using it exclusive almost a year error free
I bought a Core 2 Duo system running XP Pro, with that free upgrade to Vista Home Premium. Once I installed Vista as dual boot, I jumped back and forth for a month, but for almost a year now, I've been running Vista exclusively.
Besides standard computer uses, I also do 3D character animation and fairly complex CGI for commercials, and Vista hasn't flinched once at this stuff, sometimes while Media Center is recording a show for me, which I'll watch later on the Xbox 360 - and it streams the TV signals no prob, whether it's the standard def cable, or the second OTA HD tuner (which I added after the purchase of the box).
I have to agree with the sentiment that in the tech podcast - blogosphere, there's a much higher percentage of Apple users who overplay Windows issues, and downplay OS X ones.
PS: In that year of use, both my work systems (a Win XP box and a Mac Pro running Leopard) have crashed at least once every couple of months... both still pretty good track records, but Vista's been a champ for me.
LOVE is a bit strong, but...
...after everything I'd heard about how awful Vista is, I expected to be yanking it off my newly purchased PC and replacing it with XP within days.
It has been 2 weeks now, and no crashes to report. I've been loading my apps and adding h/w devices willy nilly without a single glitch.
Keep waiting for the misery, but none to report yet.
I can't say I love the new UI or features because right now they're a tad annoying; but from what I've read, it's all part of the initial set-up and the pop up noise will ease over time.
i thought the same thing
I was scouring the articles on how to replace with XP, but the dang thing kept working good. The new bells and whistles are kinda' cool too.
Vista BE x32 and x64
I am the IT Manager for my company and so one of the many things I need to do is try and stay current with the latest trends (and did I mention that my department is a department of two? Me and my IT Support Tech?) so this is a challenge. VMWare and having one or two machines for testing helps.
Our company also develops software and hardware and we are a MSDN subscriber.
So I've been using Vista BE since the beta days; and as my primary OS. As newer beta relases came out the product got "better" (better than the last...) until eventually the launch of the OS where, of course, I installed it on my machine.
For the first few months I was running the 32-Bit version and it did take some hardware makers to produce a driver (or support) for Vista but these were typically older hardware such as a Lexmark printer/scanner that I had at home. No big deal if they never did make a driver for it because it wasn't used that often and the print quality on it wasn't all that great to start with.
Once I was confident that the 32-bit version of Vista BE was running 99% of my applications just fine (the 1% were older legacy apps for which I either run in a VMWare session, on an XP machine or I just don't use it anymore) I backed up my data and installed the 64-Bit version; I've been running the 64-Bit version for about 3 months now.
All that said... my experience with Vista have been a positive one. It does some things much better than XP and there are other things I just question - the "Add/Remove Programs" was renamed to "Programs and Features", I really don't understand the need to rename this; not a big deal.
I'm not saying that I totally love Vista but for the most part I can't see going back to XP. And if I did it wouldn't be the end of the world.
People who recall when Windows and Windows for WorkGroups was around, the move to Windows NT v3.51 was almost as dramatic even though it looked the same but when Windows 9x and NT 4.0 came out people making the move from Windows/Windows for WorkGroups were not thrilled.
The transition from Window 9x/NT 4.0 to Windows 2000 was an easier one becuase it was pretty much seamless and then when XP came out same thing.
Vista, on the other hand, wasn't as seamless. So I think the expectation where people felt they could just "jump right in" were sadly mistaken. Part of it does act and drive like XP but there is much more too it that is no XP like.
To be completely honest, I think people are just plain lazy to take the time to learn how to use it. I'm not claiming to be a complete expert on Vista but the more I use it the more I learn. This is not to say that I love it but I also don't hate it.
I also have to say that Vista has been reliable. It has not crashed, some apps crash but these also crashed when I was on XP. Once it actually Blue Screened on me but that was resolved with a driver update from the vendor.
Is Vista a hardware hog? Yes it is. It's a pig of an OS. But... when Widnows 9x, NT 4.0, W2K and XP came out they were just as bloated when people tried to run it on a 486 or Pentium-I/II with 1MB of RAM. And so the experience was just as bad as it is with Vista today.
For some reason, people at that time weren't too opposed of having to upgrade or replace their older hardware to run the respected OS' so why should that be any different for Vista if you should happen to have a older hardware? Computer hardware today is not as expensive as it was 10-15 years ago.
And that old computer that is running XP? I say keep it for legacy reasons or configure it as a media server (or a machine to hold all your MP3's) or use it for just an Internet browsing machine (that's what we did with an older AMD machine in our house...).
To sort of go off topic, Office 2007 is perhaps taking me the longest to come up to speed on. Namely Word and Excel. Outlook 2007 and PowerPoint 2007 weren't too bad. I still keep plugging away with Office 2007 and the more I use it the more I (sort of) like it.
Sorry for the novel but I've stopped trying to defend Vista and I stay out of the Vista-vs-XP debates and arguments. When I hear people who hate Vista and threaten to go to the Mac I just say "Let 'em". And very rarely do I hear people who make that threat say that they will go to Windows XP. Hm.
And when I do ask them why they feel that going to the Mac is better they almost always come back with saying that they can run Parallel and install Windows XP and have the best of both worlds. Wouldn't it just be easier to revert the PC to XP and buy a Mac?
Anyway, there's no point in trying to reason with people with that attitude and belief; they're entitled to it and who am I to make them think otherwise?
And if you're wondering why I went to the 64-Bit version of Vista BE, mainly to see how much support it had and I do have some applications that will make use of a 64-Bit OS and CPU. Just about all of my 32-Bit applications run just fine - the few that don't are really legacy software.
As I type this I'm typing on XP machine. I tried to get Vista to work but there wasn't enough support. The drivers that were supposed to be built into Vista didn't work.
My prior computer did have Vista working, but each install had issues. After a reformat I still have an issue and finally disabled the device since Vista can't deal with that driver either.
Every install has had problems. When I finally get it to work, I really like the interface. XP is kludge by comparison. However in spite of anything else I can get XP working like it should. Vista as an upgrade flat out sucks. Vista as the native OS...not so bad unless you do a fresh install to get rid of crapware.
When 7 comes out I'm not upgrading. I'm only going to get it native. My Vista Ultimate Upgrade sits unused on my software shelf. What a waste of money. Especially considering that given the interface I'd rather be using it on this computer now.
The real Irony is that Linux gave me less trouble on this machine than either Vista or XP. Go Figure.
Can't go back ever
My position on this: I've had some issues when it first came out on the corporate release. One year later, my scanner which didn't work with XP now works with Vista.
The OS is clearly unusable with anything below 2 gigs of RAM, but actually performs better than XP over that threshold.
On the productivity frontier: I simply can't go back to XP ever again. The search, search folders, search in control panel, search in help, search assistants, search APIs for my applications.... it's simply the best desktop search engine out there.
With the number of times this thread keeps coming back it's starting to become the new "CAN I GET A GRAND CENTRAL INVITE?".
Vista's ok...if you're willing to settle
It's not that Vista has ever had more than it's share of problems. Businesses for the most part look at it from the cold hard cash aspect, not so much emotion, and Vista falls short of filling any need, either by inability to fill that need or inability to distinguish an advantage from what is already in use.
Its fine to like or love something new and shiny, I mean, afterall, the divorce rate is at or above 50% right? Hopefully Windows 7 will come along and put us all out of our misery; the Vista lovers who seem to have to keep declaring such and speaking on behalf of the stay-the-course XP users, an OS that really is a clear step forward.
I don't like rabbits.
Hello everyone, Windows Vista is my main OS and I really don't like rabbits.
Vista is my main os....
I've been using vista as my main OS for about 2 years now, and I've discovered I don't like rabbits.
Not a Windows User, but...
I have rolled it out at work in our public computing spaces, such as classrooms and labs, without any problems. A couple of apps did not want to work, but it was nothing the Application Compatibility toolkit couldn't handle.
After two years of continued use in a lab environment these machines are just as fast as they were the day I deployed them. I have had no viruses, and only one HDD failure. Windows Complete PC restore brought the data back in under an hour. Vista isn't perfect, and it needs a bit of work to make it run right for a long time, but I don't think it is the disaster some folks seem to make it.
XP, for me, is just not acceptable anymore.