Buzz Out Loud Lounge forum: Silent Vista-loving majority?

vista works as good if not better than all the other systems,the only complant i have is it does not compatable with older equpiment and thers is no drivers to use my old scanners and printers.

People who love Vista tend to be home users or professionals who use primarily Microsoft products and upgrade their software to the latest versions regularly.

People who don't like Vista tend to be those who use older hardware, or are software people who use older and/or non-Microsoft products (such as Borland Delphi). These often have problems with new operating systems in general, but are particularly troublesome with Vista. Newest software versions work fine with Vista, but not everyone has the money to upgrade all their software.

... to a new OS on hardware designed for the previous version of the OS is ill-advised. It has always been that way for OSX and Windows. In the future ease into a new OS by replacing older machines and your life will be so much happier...

Linux is the exception to this rule of course...

Vista has worked fine for me. Someone mentioned "workarounds", I'd like to comment. It seems some flash installers do not like Vista, specifically, Adobe 5.5. What I found is that if you explore your folders and find the "main" install program, it installs and works just fine.

I'd also like to comment on "out of the box" versions that come with the recently purchased computer. (I won't mention any names but the first letter is D and the last is L) These computers come "bogged" down with trial wares. This will inevitably create an illusion that Vista is to blame. I purchased a laptop (I won't mention any names but the first letter is S and the last is Y), absolutely no problems. Such are laptops to have inadequate sound and video "hardware".

These are my Thoughts on Vista:
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KeithG

Hello - First I know that no OS is perfect, especially when the initial production version is released. I have found Vista to run very smoothly & with very little problems. I have never gotten the blue screen of death. I've had 2 computers both working on a local workgroup & even put it on a server 2003 domain. Worked great on both. I prefer Vista business. Graphics are great - Very smooth.
...Even when a program has slowed to a 'slump', it usually ends up "Correcting" itself. Yes, there have been programs that have crashed in every OS I've used, including Linux. But I will say less applications have failed using Vista than XP - I liked XP a lot. Yes, it did require a hardware upgrade, but that was something I believe I wanted to do anyway. I have made the OS work hard for a living at times & it seems to be a good little workhorse. I've used multiple applications at one time, performed programming (Including VB & more), & large Access Databases - It seems to handle it well.
...I use Office 2007 almost daily on it is excellent. (I wish there was a thread on those who like Office 2007 here - Maybe there is already, I don't know)
...Would I recommend Vista to others, yes - I have in fact & put it on a couple of machines for others. Not much complaining going on from them yet. I have not installed SP1 for Vista yet as I have heard some negative news & so far, I don't see a big need for it. Are there any experiences anyone could share about SP1? I do have to say, some of the places things are located in Vista are now in odd places or were hard to find. That's OK, I've pretty much found my way around. I work in an environment where people many times are so adverse to change - XP was different than 98 or ME. People complained about XP, but now it has a large following. I will say to a degree - Things should change, not completely nor drastically. With some of the changes it has made it difficult for me when doing IT support at times, but you can figure your way through most things.

Thanks,
---roystreet

After one year using Vista Ultimate I can pretty much say that I like it, though there are some things I would like to see improved - it's a little heavy on the system even considering I'm using it in a Dual Core environment. But all the rest I like, specially the visual - never go back to XP...

I think Vista is finally benefitting from the fact that fast hardware is becoming (relatively) inexpensive. That was not the case a year ago and people rightfully slammed MS for Vista's high overhead.

Besides some minor problems with some drivers I am happy with Vista: it is user friendly and stable. Furthermore, as a normal user, I think that XP is not better as it used to inexpectedly crash at times. In short: I do not share the view portraied in many articles of the specialized press, xp is not better.

Not sure about the majority, either.

I've been using Vista since Beta 2, so I've been familiar with all the little gotchas and annoyances for quite a while. I've been able to watch the development, and observe the user experience change for the better to where it's at now with SP1.

I should also note that I'm a power-user, and working through little things to make things function better is a normal part of my daily computer routine, so I don't see/notice a lot of the issues that many people observe.

Also, if you're upset with the amount of crapware that comes preinstalled on computers when you buy them, the best way to avoid it is to take a step up in the model. The reason the base model machines are able to be sold so cheaply is because the manufacturing cost is subsidized by the software offers. I'm not afraid to mention Dell's name, because I've just been through this experience.

If you buy an Inspiron laptop, you will get slammed with crapware. There's a reason the Inspiron models are so cheap.

I just bought my wife a pink XPS for mother's day, and I was pleasantly surprised with the very small amount of offers and trials that were installed. I was expecting to spend several hours removing and reworking crap to try and get things to a normal functional level, but I had everything up and running for her in a matter of about 30 minutes.

Ultimately, if you don't want any crapware at all, you can buy the business model (Latitude in the Dell space), and get an almost completely clean install out of the box.

So, to conclude:

Vista - Ok. Still needs some work, but well on its way.
Crapware - Bad. Stepping up a model will help.

Hi, I've been using Vista now for nearly 10 months and thankfully it has exceeded all of my expectations. Honestly, I was very reluctant to buy a new PC with Vista loaded and did consider asking for XP to be loaded on a new machine, in place of Vista. I'm very glad I didn't, because so far Windows Vista has been excellent. In fact I can only point to one minor area of disappointment. Apart from that, Vista is efficient, smooth and just nice to look at and work with. Sure it needs a more powerful machine, but if you ensure you've got the right hardware, Vista will be a pleasure. You know, it seems like there has been a lot of disappointment with Vista, but I remember the exact same thing happened on the release of Windows XP. Everyone kept saying the sky was going to fall in, and yet look what happened, people don't want to lose XP. In fact for lots of us, XP became a friend. In a few years time, the Vista story will be the same.

Please read Business Week (May 2008) and realize why so many people are moving to Macs.

Please keep the level of the forum using proper language, i.e. not vulgar.

The strategy used by Apple for Mac OS and Canonical Ltd. for Ubuntu are really smart; have a new release or version every 6 months or a year. In contrast, Microsoft releases a new Operating System that should be almost bug free considering all the time invested in it.

Read what the experts say and do not only pay attention to the bells and whistles and Operating System has.

Have a great day!

For Christmas I was givwen an Acer 5520 pre-loaded with Vista Home Premium. So I took a couple of days to learned about it while comparing to XP Professional. Vista lost terribly. I could list a bunch of knock-offs, as I see them. Microsoft whould produce an OS for us who know how to use a PC and don't need a bunch of non-producing products.

I have been using Vista since December 2007 and the things I like best are the much quicker boot up and shut down times. I like the Sidebar but I realize I can do that in XP, too, with add-on software. Other than that, I don't see much difference except in how file explorer boxes are laid out. Overall, I don't see Vista a huge leap forward for Microsoft, but all of my peripherals work and it has been a stable OS so far. Now Outlook 2007, that is a different story, as the data file never closes properly and it crashes at least every other day.

A friend of mine introduced me to a really neat program called Error Smart. It is not virus software but it does a regular scan on your system and updates it to optimum efficiency each time. It is free of charge and you can download it at www.errorsmart.com

I also have the HP Pavilion Entertainment PC with the AMD Turion64x2 processor. Error Smart really helps speed it up. I also downloaded a copy of the Safari web browser from www.apple.com. It is twice as fast as IE. The downloads are pretty much instantaneous! I hope this helps.

I can't do that cleanup stuff for window$ anymore. I run everything behind a Squid box and Linux firewalls and antivirus and I keep my iptables filter updated for anything I don't like coming through.
To heck with cleaning that crap out of window$ when a man as rich as gates or ballmer in all their wisdom of screwing the last cent of money out of an individual - should be banished from this industry until they create an OS that prevents the dirt and crap from infiltrating the computer.