Silent Vista-loving majority?
by chustar - 4/30/08 5:37 PM
Is anyone here part of the silent vista-loving majority? I've used it for close to a year without any problems. Come on people, let's get our voices heard!
by: chustar April 30, 2008 5:37 PM PDT
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vista works as good if not better than all the other systems,the only complant i have is it does not compatable with older equpiment and thers is no drivers to use my old scanners and printers.
I'm glad your stuff works good. I question the "techie" that suddenly doesn't get any questions, because any new system causes new questions, and I've seen more consusion than any other time in the last few years.
but good for you
People who love Vista tend to be home users or professionals who use primarily Microsoft products and upgrade their software to the latest versions regularly.
People who don't like Vista tend to be those who use older hardware, or are software people who use older and/or non-Microsoft products (such as Borland Delphi). These often have problems with new operating systems in general, but are particularly troublesome with Vista. Newest software versions work fine with Vista, but not everyone has the money to upgrade all their software.
I work in a law firm - only 6 lawyers, but handle major plaintiff litigation with numerous verdicts over a million dollars - Since we switched to Vista (at the direction of the associate who used to handle there matters - he has since been relieved of all It duties), we have spent at least $20,000.00 trying to fix things (with almost universal zero result [drivers - applications - programs]). Curiously, when SP1 came out, that associate was the only one who refused the update. We also installed Office 2007 at the same time, so there may be some things that are not strictly Vista related - although regular users can't tell the difference, but there is not an employee here that doesn't beg to have XP back. The problem are so numerous, that it would take pages to enumerate - we are advised that XP will no longer supported, and the general consus at our office is to look elsewhere.... Windows and Microsoft Office has become the bane of our office existence.
... to a new OS on hardware designed for the previous version of the OS is ill-advised. It has always been that way for OSX and Windows. In the future ease into a new OS by replacing older machines and your life will be so much happier...
Linux is the exception to this rule of course...
The silent Vista-apathetic supermajority
"It's that new thingy that makes computers do stuff, right? I already have one of those, thanks. Cool, I guess, if you're into stuff like that. Best to run it on a new machine? Okay. Maybe it'll be there when I get my next $400 computer; for $100-$300 its too rich for my blood.
"Ooh, pretty colors. Trippy.
"Linux? She was with the Eurythmics, right? Won an Oscar recently, no?"
Apathy for the Win
I love pizza too ...
Vista has worked fine for me. Someone mentioned "workarounds", I'd like to comment. It seems some flash installers do not like Vista, specifically, Adobe 5.5. What I found is that if you explore your folders and find the "main" install program, it installs and works just fine.
I'd also like to comment on "out of the box" versions that come with the recently purchased computer. (I won't mention any names but the first letter is D and the last is L) These computers come "bogged" down with trial wares. This will inevitably create an illusion that Vista is to blame. I purchased a laptop (I won't mention any names but the first letter is S and the last is Y), absolutely no problems. Such are laptops to have inadequate sound and video "hardware".
These are my Thoughts on Vista:
I love pizza too ... but when I am done I throw it away.
Venture Philanthropy Rules!
It's the best!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have used every MS operating system and so far....Vista is the best and most trouble free program.
Vista Is Excellent...
Hello - First I know that no OS is perfect, especially when the initial production version is released. I have found Vista to run very smoothly & with very little problems. I have never gotten the blue screen of death. I've had 2 computers both working on a local workgroup & even put it on a server 2003 domain. Worked great on both. I prefer Vista business. Graphics are great - Very smooth.
...Even when a program has slowed to a 'slump', it usually ends up "Correcting" itself. Yes, there have been programs that have crashed in every OS I've used, including Linux. But I will say less applications have failed using Vista than XP - I liked XP a lot. Yes, it did require a hardware upgrade, but that was something I believe I wanted to do anyway. I have made the OS work hard for a living at times & it seems to be a good little workhorse. I've used multiple applications at one time, performed programming (Including VB & more), & large Access Databases - It seems to handle it well.
...I use Office 2007 almost daily on it is excellent. (I wish there was a thread on those who like Office 2007 here - Maybe there is already, I don't know)
...Would I recommend Vista to others, yes - I have in fact & put it on a couple of machines for others. Not much complaining going on from them yet. I have not installed SP1 for Vista yet as I have heard some negative news & so far, I don't see a big need for it. Are there any experiences anyone could share about SP1? I do have to say, some of the places things are located in Vista are now in odd places or were hard to find. That's OK, I've pretty much found my way around. I work in an environment where people many times are so adverse to change - XP was different than 98 or ME. People complained about XP, but now it has a large following. I will say to a degree - Things should change, not completely nor drastically. With some of the changes it has made it difficult for me when doing IT support at times, but you can figure your way through most things.
Vista is fine with me!
I have owned a laptop with Vista for a year and have had no issues at all. I also own another laptop on XP and a desktop on XP Pro, I barely notice a difference. I believe that those that are having problems haven't upgraded to the newest model or version of that item. Technology and computers in today's world are very short lived and people need to stop falling in love with something and move on to the present. Stop living in the past!
After one year using Vista Ultimate I can pretty much say that I like it, though there are some things I would like to see improved - it's a little heavy on the system even considering I'm using it in a Dual Core environment. But all the rest I like, specially the visual - never go back to XP...
I Love Vista and I'm not ashamed!
Vista is a solid OS which is truly the next logical step up from XP Pro. It has built-in ways to protect yourself from doing damage. If you get the right hardware and Vista OS from the start, you really cannot go wrong. Of course, you need to get the Premium level of OS to begin with. Spend the right amount of money from the start and you won't have to think about looking back.
For less than $800, I got 2 GB of fast RAM, a 200 GB HD, a Web Cam, all on an Acer laptop, with the wireless connectivity that I always wanted. Took it with me on vacation right after I got it and it performed in an outstanding fashion.
I have no complaints and am proud to say Vista Rocks.
You should note that I have no need to enumerate all the goodies, and/or justify the purchase. Try it yourself; do it right; you'll love the results!
Cheap Powerful Hardware Helping
I think Vista is finally benefitting from the fact that fast hardware is becoming (relatively) inexpensive. That was not the case a year ago and people rightfully slammed MS for Vista's high overhead.
silent vista loving majority
I NOW HAVE MY NEW VISTA EQUIPPED PC UP AND RUNNING
IT HAS QUAD CORE PROCESSING,500G HARD DRIVE AND MUCH MORE SO HOPEFULLY IT WILL BE QUICK ENOUGH TO STOP ME LOSING MY TEMPER,AND THROWING THE MOUSE ACROSS THE ROOM.
NO SERIOUSLY,VISTA ON MY 1G DUO CORE LAPTOP WAS SLOWWWWWWWWW,BY COMPARISON WITH XP Mc @ WORK,SO NOW I'M HOPING FOR BETTER THINGS.
LIKE I HAVE SAID BEFORE,VISTA IS THE ONLY O/S SYSTEM I REALLY KNOW
vista fine with me!
Besides some minor problems with some drivers I am happy with Vista: it is user friendly and stable. Furthermore, as a normal user, I think that XP is not better as it used to inexpectedly crash at times. In short: I do not share the view portraied in many articles of the specialized press, xp is not better.
No problems here
I've had good luck with it. It's quick, stable, and hasn't given me any problems beyond driver support for old printers and accessories that now qualify as antiques. The graphic interface is not as "cool" as my college age daughter's Mac, but hey - it works for me and is a lot more enjoyable than XP.
Not quite silent, not quite loving
Not sure about the majority, either.
I've been using Vista since Beta 2, so I've been familiar with all the little gotchas and annoyances for quite a while. I've been able to watch the development, and observe the user experience change for the better to where it's at now with SP1.
I should also note that I'm a power-user, and working through little things to make things function better is a normal part of my daily computer routine, so I don't see/notice a lot of the issues that many people observe.
Also, if you're upset with the amount of crapware that comes preinstalled on computers when you buy them, the best way to avoid it is to take a step up in the model. The reason the base model machines are able to be sold so cheaply is because the manufacturing cost is subsidized by the software offers. I'm not afraid to mention Dell's name, because I've just been through this experience.
If you buy an Inspiron laptop, you will get slammed with crapware. There's a reason the Inspiron models are so cheap.
I just bought my wife a pink XPS for mother's day, and I was pleasantly surprised with the very small amount of offers and trials that were installed. I was expecting to spend several hours removing and reworking crap to try and get things to a normal functional level, but I had everything up and running for her in a matter of about 30 minutes.
Ultimately, if you don't want any crapware at all, you can buy the business model (Latitude in the Dell space), and get an almost completely clean install out of the box.
So, to conclude:
Vista - Ok. Still needs some work, but well on its way.
Crapware - Bad. Stepping up a model will help.
Not one problem for a year...i had a much harder time with XP.
Why is everyone complaining...?
Hi, I've been using Vista now for nearly 10 months and thankfully it has exceeded all of my expectations. Honestly, I was very reluctant to buy a new PC with Vista loaded and did consider asking for XP to be loaded on a new machine, in place of Vista. I'm very glad I didn't, because so far Windows Vista has been excellent. In fact I can only point to one minor area of disappointment. Apart from that, Vista is efficient, smooth and just nice to look at and work with. Sure it needs a more powerful machine, but if you ensure you've got the right hardware, Vista will be a pleasure. You know, it seems like there has been a lot of disappointment with Vista, but I remember the exact same thing happened on the release of Windows XP. Everyone kept saying the sky was going to fall in, and yet look what happened, people don't want to lose XP. In fact for lots of us, XP became a friend. In a few years time, the Vista story will be the same.
X-Mac user Using Vista and loving it!
I think if you are upgrading form an older machine with XP it will be a pain in the ass (lack of drivers etc.) but if you buy a brand new machine with it pre-installed it's an awesome OS! I purchased a brand new HP Pavillion Entertainment laptop and it kicks my old Apple's ass! Visa works so well I have no need to go back to Mac and pay twice as much for a user friendly OSX that is so similar to Vista! Vista is the future people. Not only have XP die hards had to realize this but Mac users as well!
Read Business Week (May)
Please read Business Week (May 2008) and realize why so many people are moving to Macs.
Please keep the level of the forum using proper language, i.e. not vulgar.
The strategy used by Apple for Mac OS and Canonical Ltd. for Ubuntu are really smart; have a new release or version every 6 months or a year. In contrast, Microsoft releases a new Operating System that should be almost bug free considering all the time invested in it.
Read what the experts say and do not only pay attention to the bells and whistles and Operating System has.
Have a great day!
I understand the upside of owning a Mac. Thats all I I've used since 1999. I also know the downside. Lack of decent affordable software. Anything you purchase for Mac is $40.00 or higher. There is no bargain/budget software out there for it. Let's not forget about lack of compatibility. Also, here's the big one....anytime you ask support about anything regarding upgrade all they can say is UUuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, just buy a new computer. Yeah, what technical wizards! Apple comes out with a new OS about every six month making sure their customers keep on paying. You know they have the full versions avail but they always stretch it out to make us pay and pay and pay! Lets not forget, the average mac that would have the same hardware/memory specs as your average PC is twice the purchase price. So let me express to you, it's not about "whistles and bells" as you say in the OS. It's about having basically the same thing for half the price that is actually upgradable! Upgradable is not a word in Apples vocabulary! Besides, you can pretty much run a PC with most of Macs software now. I run both Safari and Itunes which is really all I care about on a Mac anyway. It's like owning an upgradeable software compatable mac!I now have the best of both worlds! Also, if you have not noticed, we are in a recession and most people don't want to spend double on a Mac for what I described above. By the way.......was that "clean" enough for you?
Vista-loving? I think not!
For Christmas I was givwen an Acer 5520 pre-loaded with Vista Home Premium. So I took a couple of days to learned about it while comparing to XP Professional. Vista lost terribly. I could list a bunch of knock-offs, as I see them. Microsoft whould produce an OS for us who know how to use a PC and don't need a bunch of non-producing products.
Silent Vista Loving Majority - NOT!
THERE SOLUTION to solving there deficiencies is simple - Make it your problem - ask you many stupid questions every time you try to do something! And as well, Vista is a bloated memory hog! They should have just did a major upgrade to XP.
Vista Is OK But Not Revoluntionary
I have been using Vista since December 2007 and the things I like best are the much quicker boot up and shut down times. I like the Sidebar but I realize I can do that in XP, too, with add-on software. Other than that, I don't see much difference except in how file explorer boxes are laid out. Overall, I don't see Vista a huge leap forward for Microsoft, but all of my peripherals work and it has been a stable OS so far. Now Outlook 2007, that is a different story, as the data file never closes properly and it crashes at least every other day.
Internet is slow
THe only negative I've noticed with Vista is that my internet access is much slower than in the past. I am on an HPPavillion 6000 with AMD Anthlon 64 X2, TL56, 32 bit operating system and 2GB RAM.
Initial recognition of my wireless access generally takes at least five minutes and I often wait a few seconds for pages to update. I did upgrade my wireless network so that's not the problem. Any ideas what I can do to speed up the internet?
To speed up net connection
A friend of mine introduced me to a really neat program called Error Smart. It is not virus software but it does a regular scan on your system and updates it to optimum efficiency each time. It is free of charge and you can download it at www.errorsmart.com
I also have the HP Pavilion Entertainment PC with the AMD Turion64x2 processor. Error Smart really helps speed it up. I also downloaded a copy of the Safari web browser from www.apple.com. It is twice as fast as IE. The downloads are pretty much instantaneous! I hope this helps.
Error Smart is not totally free
Thanks for your advice. I went to the ErrorSmart site, downloaded the application and ran it...all very smooth. However, the free version repaired only 12 of the 828 errors it found. Said I had to register for the full version. This experience reminded me that I had purchased a product called Uniblue for an older computer and it worked well. SO, I don't mind buying a product but want to do a little research. Do you have any further advice? Thanks again.
I can't do that cleanup stuff for window$ anymore. I run everything behind a Squid box and Linux firewalls and antivirus and I keep my iptables filter updated for anything I don't like coming through.
To heck with cleaning that crap out of window$ when a man as rich as gates or ballmer in all their wisdom of screwing the last cent of money out of an individual - should be banished from this industry until they create an OS that prevents the dirt and crap from infiltrating the computer.
This is a very interesting and useful thread. I am ready to take the plunge and buy a new computer with Vista but I am not sure which version to get. I want it to run real fast because I use the computer for work - no intention of using it for games.
My main concern is whether it will accept/convert my Outlook 2003 Professional Edition files where all my work emails are. If not, is there a way of getting around it with Vista. Sanity over money, so I am willing to spend the necessary dough. Any advice will be greatly appreciated.