Silent Vista-loving majority?
by chustar - 4/30/08 5:37 PM
Is anyone here part of the silent vista-loving majority? I've used it for close to a year without any problems. Come on people, let's get our voices heard!
by: chustar April 30, 2008 5:37 PM PDT
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It is difficult to love an operating system. As with living with people, living with an operating system is difficult. Maturity helps a lot and therefore, timing is everything.
I waited for more than two years to buy a new laptop until Vista was "ready." Imagine my feelings when I found that my HP 2510 printer was "not supported." However, by the time that I had gotten all of my applications migrated and stable, HP delivered the drivers. In some ways, the printer works better under Vista than under XP/SP2.
Vista and I still have a lot to learn about living with one another. I am sure that we will work it out if Vista just learns to pick up after herself.
yes there are enough work-arounds/fixes for vista
My issues at this point are,
that many of the work-a-rounds/fixes are only 97% effective,
purchasing new equipment still requires making sure it is vista compatible and backwards compatible with at least XP,
and worrying about service packs making the newly purchased peripherals inoperative.
i dont hate it like i thought i was going to. i like it, but im not IN LOVE with it. still like xp better. only beef is with my laptop. i have an a215 model toshiba and it black screens on me because of faulty hardware. all toshiba will do is replace with the same faulty hardware. so guys if you this laptop and it black screens on you ...its not vista. vista actualy works pretty nicely aside from the cancel or allow crap. usualy it asks me twice if i want something to install. if i said yes the first time i mean it. i dont a second and even third screen asking me if if i really want to. overall vista isnt bad. btw my system specs are 160gb hdd,2gb of ram n ati video card. i dont remember what kind but i can run a second monitor with it.
Vista 64 Rock Solid
I installed Vista 64 on a new home built pc over one year ago. I have had NOT ONE, NONE, NADA, significant issue to date. I found drivers for all of my peripherals and everything runs like a champ. Applications that didn't run perfecty, Adobe reader and ITunes (since removed), I found work arounds for. I don't blame MS for the problems with those apps, I blame lazy Apple and Adobe for not getting their products up to speed.
UAC would be fine with a little tuning, allow admins to set exceptions for things that we don't want to be prompted for all the time. Yes I know you can turn it off but that defeats the purpose.
Vista is bloated, I give the MS haters that, but it is the MOST stable MS OS to date. I would like to see MS make a stripped down version of its next OS, similar to what MS is doing with the Server 2008 line of products. Allow the user to add the pieces they want when they want them. MS needs to go all 64Bit and dump the 32Bit versions and push computing forward.
All in all Vista runs just fine for me but you need the proper hardware to run it.
Several machines, no gripes, lots of pluses
As usual, Mickysoft ships the OS undocumented, assumes the users are idiots, and hides some of the best features from the lusers, but there's a lot to like here besides a pretty face. People are still selling software to help reformat and repartition disks and to monitor performance, even though these capabilities are excellently performed by the built-in utilities of the OS itself (if you know how to get to them). The real problem with Vista is a lack of education on its use.
I did find one good thing about Vista
I am definately not one of those who has anything positive to say about Vista. I have experienced just about every one of the problems that the masses have complained about. The other day, I discovered one good thing about Microsoft's latest Beta release we call Vista... free tech support from Microsoft.
Last week I installed SP1 and the boot time extended from a poor three minutes to about 15 minutes. I could not find any information online as to how to fix this problem. Frustrated, I went to the Vista support site and to my great surprise discovered that unlike previous versions of Windows, MS offers free tech support via online chats. My agent, (in India, I think), spent nearly two hours with me and eventually fixed the problem. He even called me after the session ended to make sure I was happy.
This is not the Microsoft that we all know so well. You know, the one that is always trying to pry a few more dollars from its customers by charging for support of defective software. Kudos to you Microsoft. Lets hope that this is a new policy trend.
Loving the touch screen capabilites.
I got an HP TouchSmart PC with the 19" touch screen that Vista makes possible. I've had it for almost a year and have not had any problems with it or Vista. The touch screen rocks! I'm not even silent about it. We have a family of 5 who all use this computer for utility and multi-media, but it is not the gaming computer, so I can't comment on Vista for gaming.
I'm happy enough with it. I'm getting slightly more stability than XP. I'm not noticing any performance trade off and find graphic image handling a little friendlier.
(NT) (NT) Can We Please Stop the Bot that's Spamming this Thread?
I purchased a new Toshiba laptop in the Fall of 2007 and it came with Vista. [My other laptop was XP.] I actually did not start using the new PC until Jan 2008 and had quite a few problems at first with peripheral software, etc. However with a little bit of research and installation of driver upgrades, I have been using it for 3 months without any problems at all. I've never been 'in love' with any OS, so I'll stop short of saying I'm a silent Vista-loving user, but I'm very pleased with it.
Vista- and loving it!?!?
Well, i have had vista for over a year, both virtual and physical, there are many limitations with the OS, now while it is a viable alternative to XP in home use, it is still way to flakey to be used in business. As a fact, if XP is killed, my company is prepared to move to Ubuntu, as if the OS vista is the only windows OS, that would mean that all our software would then need to be repurchased, this is not only expensive, but due to new licencing, it is cheaper to just move to Ubuntu. 2k8 server, which is alot like the vista OS, as it turns out is a great OS for a home, business end user machine. It has all the crap that vista has, but is defaulted as being turned off. No superfetch, no areo, no bizarre looking desktop, but if you want all of that, you can turn it on. The OS runs smoothly, and also is compatible with most 2k3/xp software, and drivers. I have been using 2k8 since beta, and there is nothing better then this OS out there. It is unfortunate MS does not make a slimmed down version of 2k8 and use that as there home based machine, and then sell vista as just a alternative, like ME. If they would do that, it would save tons of headaches, and tons of customers.
Issues with Vista:
1. In a laptop there are 2 registry keys needed to be deleted, or the power management at 5% battery life causes a BSOD
2. The burning utility that was found in Xp, is more like apple and will not allow you to burn a Cd of MP3's that work in a car
3. Nero, will install, but requires you to delete 3 registry keys or the drive cannot be found
4. BSOD is frequent if you use an external Hard drive
5. defrag utility is required daily if superfetch is turned on, also suggest a utility called Pagefrag, found on technet, and ran daily
6. Page file if located on a diffrent drive helps performance, set min to max and dont use more then 3000mb of space on a 4gb memory 32bit os, as that will help max the memory, and not tax HD speed
7. BSOD due to heat issues with video games is frequent, as vista requires alot of vid memory to just stay afloat.
8. there are no dos based utility commands as in XP that help to clean out viruses.
9. Windows defender if unwanted, cannot be removed from add/remove programs and must be hacked out of the registry.
10. compaired to XP vista is a dog...
11. Suggest getting a licence to run 2k8 over vista, it is much much better....
Vista? well it was a nice idea, but then so was ME
Vista - silent loving
I've used Vista for over a year. At first it took some getting used to but once learned, it works great. What I like about it is if new drivers and software updates are needed, Vista lists them for you to download, In addition Vista sends Microsft a list of problems encountered and Microsoft then fixes the problem if you have automatic updates.
positive Vista experience
Last year about this time I bought two computers with Vista pre-installed. I have had relatively few problems. My only major incompatibility was with MusicMatch Jukebox which I really liked. I have since become used to Media Player.
One major positive thing is that I don't see 'crashes' anymore and Microsoft hasn't had to add a Service Pack 2 to get to that point.
This isn't to say that some of my old programs don't work with Vista but I have found other substitutes.
Overall, I am happy.
Well I wouldnt say I love it.
As far as day to day use- no problems but the anomolies are just wired/ New Sony VAIO laptop top of th eline 4 gig ram even use Express card for Turbo boost of 4 GIG.
1> Wish speed was better- you do get the feel that this is bloatware to a point with a DOS command line underneath all the fun stuff.
2> When I right click on a file I have to wait like 3 seconds for the menu to come up? WTF?
3> When I go to defrag my hard drive the defrag shows its working but can stay on for a couple of days (I did this) and it didnt finish. But my hard drive works perfectly.WTF II
4> After years of getting us to revolve our worlds around "My Documents" of XP why change that in Vista? MS talked us into that now talks us out of it.
Also I think there is a huge lack of forward thinking with aproject so ambitious- after all the big brains at MS and the billions spent and the billion lines of code why cant I pick and choose my right click menus to suit the way I WANT TO WORK? They are fixed and for the life of me I cant figure out why.
5> Also why cant I COLOR FILE NAMES IN EXPLORER? such as hey Jim Im sending you a USB stick ONLY TAKE THE FILES THAT ARE GREEN! Or my recently used files or folders would automagically be in Red or the color of my choosing.
I have lists of other things that an OS should do but the above two should just be standard out of the box stuff after all this time and money. Is Vista better than OS X? Naw OSX just seems so buttoned down- yes they have problems too (I havent though) but its not that far behind either. Ill keep using it and I still like the concept at least of the start button.
Is bigger better?
I have what for me is a natural scepticism about systems that routinely multiply in size exponentially with each new product generation. That seems to be the routine case with Windows operating systems. As a frame of reference, I work as a biomedical engineering technician in a Veterans Health Administration hospital. That routinely brings my efforts to improve veterans' health care in conflict with the intransigent beaurocracy that is in large part a function of the size of the Federal Government. Also the consolidation running rampant in health care technology over the past decades has resulted in my having to deal with increases in the size of beaurocracies of the vendors.
I just don't buy that bigger can by nature be better. I've found it to usually be the oposite.
Ths is the best operating system Microsoft has produced.
Vista Workd for Me!
I bought a New Dell XPS 410 in Jan 07 preloaded with Vista. I have also purchased an HP laptop with vista as well. I haven't had any big issues with either computer. My biggest complain goes to the hardware manufactures like my HP all in one printer. In XP, I had an HP print/scan application that worked well. It would tell me when the ink was running low. I could scan straight into word or other apps from the printer itself. Not Vista compatible. I've sent several emails to HP requesting a version for Vista, but still haven't seen anything. Their resolution is to use Gallery for scanning. I've lost my respect for HP. BUT this is not Microsoft's fault.
Vista's SP1 update. I know of two people that had problems trying to manually install SP1 for Vista. Both problems were driver issues and were self-inflicted because they both didn't check compatibility first. I waited for SP1 to install with Windows update. I had no problems at all. Before the SP1 install runs, it detects all drivers installed and checks version compatibility before proceeding. If are drive is not up to date or not available, SP1 will not install and will retry later as Microsoft does the vendors' job of updating device drivers. Again not Microsoft's fault. In fact they are quite smart about the SP1 update this go around.
Vista is the Best-est OS developed by Microsoft. Keep it up Microsoft.
Every thing in Vista is so easy to use and full of shortcuts. Windows Fire Wall and Windows Defender are so Powerful. I deliberately tried to infect my PC but Firewall removed it.
Vista Home Premium
1 GB RAM
Core 2 Duo 4300 1.8Ghz
Vista-loving majority? That's me!!!!
OK, old woman butting in here. I have not had any more problems with Vista, than I did XP. I really love a lot of the new features, but then again I liked XP too. I kept XP on one laptop, and Vista on my home computer and my business laptop. I learned how to do most fixes, repairs and maintance on both systems, so comparing the two, XP is a little easier to fix. Could be that I've just had longer to get used to it. Besides everyone has to #$*@& about something.
Not so Silent and Loving It
I have been using Vista for a year and at the point of purchase was was extremely close to buying a MAC. I started my own business and most business advisors said that I would be smart to stick with a PC. I did, and it came with Vista. I then went on to get the full MS Office 2007 package, and I then went on to get into MS Office Live. My business is flourishing, my computer is my business and Vista's features in tandem with Microsoft's prudcuts have really been a blessing. My business runs on Vista. www.solidginc.com
I run Vista on a Mac with no problems
I run Vista on a Mac using Parallels virtual machine. Granted, I don't ask it to do much in the way of game play or video, but it handles all my Office 2003 apps perfectly. And Parallels makes it a no brainer to drag and drop files between my PC desktop and the Mac desktop. So for me, Vista works just fine.
A Software Developers Take. Vista is better than you think
I'm a software dev and I like Vista. I liked it from the start because I understand what it does. Why do I like it:
- It forces better application development practices. Want to know why your old apps don't run properly on Vista? They were poorly designed, writing to the Program Files structure or parts of the registry where it was not supposed to. These applications assumed the user had administrative credentials and did what they wanted because the OS allowed it. This make pre-Vista Windows a dream for hackers and virus creators
- Aliasing. This one allows different users to look at the "same" file and see different things. Of course if you don't know how windows does this trick it can drive you nuts, but it allows for a per-user customizable experience even if the application is poorly written and does not account for user specific settings.
- Security. I know Apple made a joke of this, but have you ever used Linux where the the root account has been disabled (recommended security model), its the same thing. People cannot complain that Windows needs to be more Linuz and then complain when they implement a better security model. Try and hack Vista, try and get a virus to spread on vista - its pretty darn hard unless they turn of UAC
The bottom line is that Vista itself is not to blame, but rather years of bad programming that exploited the open model of pre-Vista windows
My 2 Cents For Vista
I have been using Vista Home Premium for several months now and have found it to be just fine after converting to Windows Live Mail, and learning where are all the old XP stuff is now residing.
The networking setup is very easy with Vista and it seems to do a much better job on hardware installs than XP.
Still learning the many features of the multi-media tools, but all in all very pleased with Vista so far.
Also in the Silent Loving Majority
Vista was on my machine when I bought it and found myself as one of the pioneering users at the time of its release. For me it's as intuitive as XP with just enough additional ease of navigation that makes it unique. It continues to protect my information (I hope... that's right Bill Gates, don't abuse me!) and keep everything organized the way I like it.
So there ya go! My flag is also raised in support of the silent Vista loving community.
Vista Ultimate 64 bit
I have use Ultimate 64 bit since it first came out last January.
Its been flawless since then. The only thing that would not work on my system was my camera which was an old mustek. Which I promptly threw away. I bought a Logitech a few months later which works perfect.
I have built and worked on a number of systems using Vista. The ones I built all were fine due to the use of mainstream big name hardware and
adequate resources (ram 2 gigs). The ones I worked on were dells and Lenovo's which came with Vista and 512 megs of ram. How uterly and completely stupid when its been well known since day one that 512 isnt even really enough to give it a heartbeat. There is nothing wrong with XP at all. It is the most stable system microsoft has ever made up till Vista. I see only one reason not to use Vista on a new system and thats if you need some older proprietary software.Upgrades certainly can stay with XP but if you are purchasing a new system then Vista is very nice. Ultimate 64 bit is very stable ,has drivers fro all of the hardware i have and i would say its faster. If your tv is all on your computer as mine is. (26 inch LCD) Windows Media Centre is a really nice built in feature for recording and watching TV. Built in backup,fax, and a number of other programs make Ultimate a good choice.
All in all its was a seamless upgrade with no down side at all.
I have had Vista Home Premium since it first came out. I have had no problems with it. My only concern is that it takes so long to shut down. Maybe I am doing something wrong, but as far as the OS goes, it has been perfect for me.
I like Vista - no problems
I've had Vista for about a year now, and I like it.
I wasn't planning to upgrade. I figured why spend the money when I was happy with XP? Then my old computer's mother board died. I bought a new Dell XPS 410 that come preloaded with Vista.
I've had no problems. It seems to be as stable as XP ever was. No problems at all with security upgrades/patches. I run all my applications just fine: Office 2007, McAfee security suite, various non-mainstream real estate related applications, etc. A couple of the real estate applications I had to run in either compatibility mode or as Adminstrator. But no big deal. Set it up one time and it works just fine. My flash drives work. The drivers for my HP and Brother multifunction machines work okay. It networks with my laptop that is running XP.
So I've had no problems. I like various features of Vista---especially the Snipping tool. To me it is worth buying Vista just for that!
I though that maybe buyng a machine that never had a different OS is why I've had no problems. But my adult son upgraded from XP to Vista and had one or two minor issues but is basically happy with Vista as well. I know he is a heavey gamer so Vista must be working with his games.
I've been using Vista since the day it came out (quite literally), and have had virtually no problems with it whatsoever. Back in the day, when I first bought XP (about a year after it came out), I had far more bugs that had to be worked out with time. With the new security enhancements and debugging features, this IT repairman wishes ALL of his clients were on Vista.
Also, if you are a Tablet-PC guy, Vista is the only logical option.
I am running Vista Ultimate in 64 bit mode and tt seems to run very smoothly with my multi-core box. I did a new install on the box and haven't had a single driver issue (note I have an Asus soundboard; if you're using a Creative sound card, I would say do your homework first. Creative is known for having really bad and really late drivers.)
Everyone always comments on how smooth and crisp everything is, and the eye-candy (especially Dreamscene) is really nice. I like the Sidebar as well, though the newsfeed isn't as configurable as I'd like.
Vitsa is OK, IMHO!!!
As one of New England's top field techs, I get asked this question at least 3 times a week. And it is a valid question. BUT, every time I ask that particular end user what problems 'They have had', they can't list any and just say 'My friend said'. I tell them I have been using Vista since it's release and even earlier with the Beta versions. It is a safe and stable OS. I rarely if ever crash. My main PC is running Vista Ultimate 64 bit with an AMD 4000+, 4 GB RAM, 2-500 GB SATA Drives, and ATI HD2600PRO and about 10 USB type peripherals. Been a workhorse for me. Virus? Spyware? Not a chance with Vista with the User Account Access control active. No executables get to run without my permission. Not a single file, registry entry or dll. Nothing.
Now as for the problems that have been associated with Vista, I can honestly tell you, 98% of the time it's not Vista's fault. If you plug in an HP printer, do you understand that you can not use the XP drivers to make them work? They have to be Vista. How about that awesome video camera you use to chat with your family on the other side of the country, same problem? No Vista drivers? Do you blame Microsoft? No, you don't. Microsoft did not make those peripherals and and the blame falls to each particular manufacturer of the product. The prerelease (Beta) of Vista was available for years prior to the public release and if those respective manufacturers did not take that opportunity to make Vista drivers for you, then they are to blame, not Microsoft.
Now don't get me wrong, I like Apple OS X just as much as I like Microsoft Windows, but the topic at hand is about Vista. I am not getting paid for this and it is only my opinion but definitely a experienced and educated one. Microsoft has a master plan that every eight years, they WILL be releasing a new version of Windows. They are already working on the next version. though still in its infancy. Windows as well as Apple must adapt to the ever changing market and have to create better, stronger and faster OS's. They will continue to make these OS's despite the market's low sales because of that master plan. XP will not be supported forever by Microsoft so if you do decide to continue to use XP which you can, you only need to find a local 'geek' to come and assist you with it. I am not telling you to go out right now and buy Vista, on the contrary, you can run XP forever. I still have a few customers that are still running Windows 98. It it works for you, great!! Who am I to judge. As long as each of those people understand the risks, it is ultimately their decision.
In summary, Vista has been a great addition to the Windows family. Though it looks, feels and acts differently under your mouse, the change is really mostly visual. The same components are there just changed to either make them easier to use or troubleshoot. If you are thinking of upgrading to Vista, the most important thing to remember is driver compatibility. From the chipset on your motherboard to the USB printer, run the Vista Upgrade Advisor to make sure your system is capable of supporting Vista. Still not sure, go to your friends house who has Vista and check it out. Yes, the one who initially said it 'sucked', LOL.