Safari for Windows
by Leo Watson - 6/11/07 11:38 AM
How very odd.
by: Leo Watson June 11, 2007 11:38 AM PDT
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I tried loading Safari on two different XPsp2 machines and I can't see the words in the top menu bar (file, edit, view.. etc...) and about 25% of the browser text missing. Maybe I'm missing something!
I was able to fix this problem. Here's my guide to fixing it: http://grupenet.com/2007/06/12/fix-font-issue-in-safari-for-windows/
I believe they will make the iPhone dependent on Safari (win & OS X) as the iPod to the iTunes, so for iPhone OS updates, etc, they will have to log in to Safari. Plus Steve Jobs with Boot Camp on the Mac and Safari on Windows, he wants to start stealing Windows PC consumers and bring them to the Mac. It's all about the Market Share baby!
East ASian Language probs
I'm having problems loading pages here in South Korea, the Korean characters do not show up on the page. And on certain sites, if I put text in search columns the browser crashes
WTF just happened? Were Apple so keen on getting it out after WWDC, that they just released an early alpha batched as beta?
It's like the worst browser I've ever tried. It's rendering everything wrong. Have a look at Google results and CNET's site for examples. It crashes, and it is sooo ugly...
This is embarrassing Apple, you would have been much better off waiting until you had a actual beta, instead of this piece of junk.
(NT) (NT) Agreed. Crashy on WIndows. Crashy on Mac.
I'll go one better...
by davviau - 6/12/07 10:11 PM
In Reply to: (NT) (NT) Agreed. Crashy on WIndows. Crashy on Mac. by udayan71
...it's crashy on Firefox. I tried watching the demo video at apple.com and Firefox crashed!
no problems on either platform here
Only thing I noticed is on Windows some buttons were oddly sized in comparison to the search bar..
So you say you have no problems with Safari for Windows not showing bold text?
I'm not on Windows.. but don't remember noticing a lack of bold. I looked at Amazon, Digg, CNET, Apple, and Wikipedia with the browser. Nothing seemed amiss.
It seems odd that Apple would enter the browser fray this late in the game. I can only imagine that they are wanting to make it available to Window so that web site developers will make more sites work better with Safari.
I wasn't blown away with Safari in the 20 minutes or so that I tried it out. I downloaded it to my laptop, and one thing I didn't like is I couldn't scroll using the mouse pad. I actually had to click and drag on the side bar. As far as the pages that I visited they rendered OK. I wasn't too impressed with the smoothing of the fonts, but for the most part the pages looked alright.
I'll probably try the current version later on my desktop and we'll see if I'm impressed further by Safari. I think there is some potential there. Firefox already seems to do everything that Safari can do, and with the addition of extensions can probably do more. I'll definitely check it out again when it gets closer to coming out of beta.
After struggling with Safari on my Mac for a few years, I wised up and installed Firefox. Why would Apple introduce a cross platform browser? This makes no sense. Overall very underwhelmed by the keynote. I don't see paying money for this upgrade. Is the this Apple's Windows Me? I see rough times for Apple on the horizon. The iPod pulled them from the brinks of demise and now it seems they are ignoring it. I doubt the Newton 2 will have much impact beyond the fan boy market. Ignoring the iPod will only allows others to eat up their coveted market share. iPhone competes in a space that Apple has never competed before, and those new competitors fight the fight in a much nastier way than Microsoft. Apple, focus on what has made you the darlings of the computing world, here is a hint: it's not your slight OS upgrades, web browser or the ability to make phone calls.
Not a slight OS upgrade
Spaces, time machine, new finder and dock, core animation, 64bit API's. There are many major changes here.
I wouldn't call those major.
Spaces - a new way to switch between applications... yawn.
Finder - a different organization... I'm fast blinking back at my monitor.
Dock - icons that reflect on the bar... I actually laughed out loud that they bothered to call this out as a feature.
Core animation - A decent upgrade. If only there were games to play on the Mac.
64 bit - Welcome to the world of 64 bit processing. You beat MSFT by -5 years on this one. Congrats.
I'm not Mac basher at all. I typing this on my G5 iMac. This machine is getting towards 3 years old and it's time to replace. So far Apple hasn't shown my anything to keep purchasing their brand. My photo iPod sure is looking dated... If Apple doesn't release anything in that product line and with the Zune rumors swirling... I might have to unconvert.
I'm a non-Mac owner, PC user, but always been a Mac fan (I used to work for Mac Mall).
I was stoked when I saw the keynote, this is the right time to buy a Mac with the leopard OS. Based on all of Windows limitations and lack of innovation, I'm getting a Mac when the Leopard comes out in South Korea What he showed in the keynote is just the flashy things to get people excited.
Outside of that, what's under the hood changes is what's really cool. I mean, for goodness sake, if there's so many complaints about either the Mac OS or Windows OS, why not create your own perfect OS? Geez
Im on a MacBook and am using Opera. I looked at Safari and thought is was limited.
If I could make my own OS, I would, but I can't program.
Spaces is a really sweet virtual desktop implementation.
Finder - Looks like quite a nice improvement, especially with file sharing.
Dock - Stacks look like they'll be useful
Core Animation - This is not intended at games at all, rather it's intended for desktop apps, an API to allow developers to easily make eye candy.
64 bit - Has been in OS X for a while, but now it's has full API support. And it's a much better implementation than windows one, it runs 32bit drivers. There are no seperate 64bit and 32bit versions of the OS.
As Mossberg pointed out when discussing iTunes, Apple are using software as a trojan horse to introduce people to the Mac aesthetic and interface, not to mention bypassing the messiness of Windows networking.
More importantly though, Apple are betting a lot on the iPhone. By distributing Safari for Windows, Apple have basically released an open-source SDK for AJAX development on the iPhone that is no longer limited to the Mac - if it works on Safari on your computer, it'll work on Safari on the iPhone.
They're clever folks, these Apple kids. I mean, even I am tempted to buy a Macbook now, and I never thought that was even remotely possible.
Apple didn't spend too much time on making Safari for Windows a safe experience: http://apple.slashdot.org/apple/07/06/12/0120230.shtml .
In all fairness I've only played with Safari for about 30 minutes but thus far I see no compelling reason to switch. Opera appears to be just as fast and doesn't have the rendering issues that Safari does, plus I like some of the features in Opera like speed dial... I'll play with it a bit more, but I don't believe I'll be making the jump anytime soon.
Its a boatload of crap. Its crashey and slow!!!
Google has spoiled you guys
Safari for Windows is a BETA!! a real beta, not a ready for the shelves product that all the web 2.0 guys call a beta anyways to sound cool. It's gonna have bugs, and they are going to fix them. That's the whole point of a beta., so testers can tell them what they have to fix.
Safari is a solid browser. I use it. I tried the OSX beta and had to roll back because stuff didn't work perfectly on the BETA. that's life.
get over it.
Your point about beta is well and truly sound. I have no dispute with that.
I do however dispute your point about Safari being a solid browser. Apart from the one-trick of passing the Acid Test, Safari RSS (otherwise known as Safari 2) is an abomination! I have used Shiira, Camino, Firefox, IE, Safari, and even Netscape on this MacBook. Overwhelmingly in what I feel to be as-fair-tests-as-possible, Safari is the largest memory hog, crashed most often under duress from many flash sites loaded, or simply many tabs open, and had fewer features than Firefox.
I say this with one caveat, Safari 3 Beta has started working quite nicely for me. Nevertheless, Safari RSS is well and truly awful. A browser I would not recommend to anyone. By all means buy a Mac, but download Camino, Shiira, Firefox - or *sarcastic gasp* even IE. But don't use Safari RSS.
People are missing on the point with the Safari
People that keeps comparing the Safari beta to other browsers are missing the point and the boat. I guarantee you that the iPhone will be to the Safari what the iPod is to the iTunes. So you have to use Safari for the iPhone.
The second point is the Safari is not targeted to technically savvy people that knows Firefox, Netscape, Camino, etc. Safari is targeting the people who know nothing about the other browsers and feel something is lacking with their current internet experience. Not everybody is tech savvy as the average CNET demographic. Think like a businessperson not a technical person and you'll understand exactly where I'm coming from.
Personally I'm a pimp for Firefox, I'm totally dissatisfied with the Safari Beta, but I also understand it's BETA!!!!!
Safari for home, Firefox for work
I love Safari for my Macs at home. It works on 99.9% of the sites I visit and I have been using it continuously for 2 years. Maybe it was iffy when it was first introduced but I have never had a problem with it. Heck, it works flawlessly with my banking site and even Firefox won't do that. Firefox for the Mac gets used for one thing and one thing alone on my machines: Google Calender. Plus I can't stand the visual clutter of Firefox. Yeah, I know there are skins but most of them are u-g-l-y.
However, my work requires I run Windows and the Safari Beta released yesterday won't cut it. In the first five minutes I visited 2 professional sites that used imbedded pulldowns that didn't work properly. Of course to be fair, they don't work with Firefox either so I grudgingly keep a copy of IE installed to use as a last resort.
I am using Safari on Windows 2 problems one no spell check and 2 no google toolbar for Safari and Mac's which is wrong for Google not to do. Otherwise I am liking the experience of Safari I downloaded it last night and I am running it and so far It is fun.
(NT) (NT) Flock > Safari 'Nuff Said
Will Safari for Windows end like Explorer for Mac OS?
In the dustbin of history.
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