Community Newsletter: Q&A forum: How do I disable unnecessary programs running in my PCs background?

I have found that nCleaner gives you a much better user interface, and gives you more options.

Try it at http://www.nkprods.com/ncleaner/

Please correct me ... CCleaner does clean by deleting all temporary files and recovers little space.
But does it help in anyway to stop unwanted programs at Start Up of pc.

i agree with ccleaner it does it all in one its 1 the best cleaners i found in 17 yrs of foolin around with puters....cleans it all from cookies to recycle bin and registry

PUMA WE ARE GOING TO KICK YOU OUT OF THIS BLOG TOO IF YOU DON'T STOP HARRAZING PEOPLE WITH YOUR BAD COMMENTS.

TO ALL HERE, PLEASE NOTE THAT PUMA HAS BEEN FOUND IN OTHER FORUMS HERE AT CNET JUST COMPLAINING ABOUT VISTA AND MICROSOFT.

I KNOW MANY OF YOU ARE TRYING TO HELP AND SO AM I, THAT'S WHY I ASKED YOU TO IGNORE HIS COMMENTS.

HE HAS NO ADVISE TO HELP MEMBER, ALL HE DOES IS COMPLAIN.

HE WAS ALREADY KICKED OUT OF THE OTHER FORUM.

DON'T LET HIS BAD COMMENTS AFFECT YOU.

HE HAS HIS OPINION WE UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT IF HE DOES NOT WANT TO HELP THEN IT IS USELESS FOR HIM TO BE HERE.

I AM NOT DEFENDING MICROSOFT OR WINDOWS, I AM HERE BECAUSE MY EXPERINCES WITH XP AND VISTA HAVE BEEN POSITIVE.

FOR SOME OF YOU WHO MIGHT NEED A LITTLE BIT OF HELP TO UNDERSTAND THE WAY THE OPERATING SYSTEM WORKS AND HOW TO SOLVE SOME PROBLEMS.

NOTE THAT HIS COMMENT HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE MEMBER'S QUESTION.

THANK YOU
GEO

FIRST PUMA,
I HAVE BEEN BERY PROFESSIONAL WITH YOU ON THE OTHER FORUM AND VERY UNDERSTANDING TRYING TO MAKE SESE OF YOU.

But In reality I am getting a little sick and tired of your remarks.

YOU ARE ENTITLE TO YOUR OPINIOn, NO ONE IS CASTING YOU OUT FOR THAT.

But this is a forum were people come for help, not to hear you rant about issues that don't concern or address the members issues.

DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT. WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM IN UNDERSTAND HELP VERSUS IGNORANT COMMENTS SUCH AS YOURS.

Everytime you post semething MISLEADING, WHICH YOU DID ON THE OTHE FORUM the member reading may get confused and you are making everyone's life more difficult.

We are begining to take see you in a different light and getting serious about kickin you out of every forum at cnet because you dont' understand that member are asking FOR HELP. NOT YOUR OPINION ABOUT HOW GOOD OR BAD WINDOWS IS.

And in Answer to your question.

Microsoft, fought the issue of including IE in court as part of their ANTITRUST CASE, to my recollection there were INSTRUCTED TO SEPARATE THE BROWSER FROM THE OPERATING SYSTEM IN THOSE DAYS XP.

IE CAN BE UNINSTALLED FROM ANY VERSION OF XP.

HOWEVER, I admit that I don't remember how the law applies to Vista.

Yes I grant you that IE is not shown on the Unistall Program Section of Vista as an individual Item, BUT THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT IT CAN'T BE UNINSTALL.

However, since you are so Unhappy with Windows Call Microsoft or do some Searching about how to uninstall Internet Explorer.

IN ADDITION, you clamp on to bashing MS when APPLE just tried to FORCE USERS TO DOWNLOAD THEIR SAFARY BROWSER BY TYING IT TO ITUNES.

They did not get away with this because Free Rights Activist fought this and APPLE DISABLE this.

Microsoft is still under Guidelines of The Antitrust Case therefore, they can't force anyone to use IE.

You wanted out called them.

The issue of IE loading AGAIN WAS NOT THE QUESTION OF THE MEMBER.

Again I remind you, the question is

HOW I DISABLE APPLICATIONS FROM STARTING WITH WINDOWS.
The member did not stated IE PER SAY.

SO ONCE AGAIN, I am trying to be polite and I DO CLEARLY UNDERSTAND YOUR POSITION THAT YOU DON'T LIKE WINDOWS.

I am been polite to you, I expect the same from you and your commnets.

Don't want to help because you don't know how, get out.

Stop confusing members.

Geo

billyboy,
ms had to "separate" ie from the windows as per order of the federal court but they were able to side step it by embedding (or linking) parts of the code directory back into the windows os. enough so that it has not caught the attention of the feds. you'll even notice that it is not shown in the unistall program section. hope that helps...

Puma is correct.

You cannot completely uninstall IE from Windows without dangerously destabalising the Operating System, because it is integrated into Explorer. In this context, Explorer means any of the My Computer, My Document, Outlook, Word, Windows Explorer, etc windows you may use, or the Desktop GUI itself. They all use explorer.exe found in C:\Windows.

You can hide it from view, in the Control Panel > Add/Remove Programs, then the Add/Remove Windows Components. This will remove any IE icons from the Desktop and the Start menu.

But why bother? Just don't use it.

If you don't believe how difficult this is, Google "How to remove IE", and see what advice there is. Some examples;

http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-10166_7-6219945-1.html

http://en.allexperts.com/q/Windows-XP-3282/remove-IE-XP.htm

So, enough of this.

One more thing. I have posted in here that any personal attacks, flaming or verbal abuse will be deleted. Your post is near the mark, but I have allowed it to stay so I can give you the low-down on removing IE.

Any more attacks will be deleted without notice.

Mark

i seriously hope the bloggers here listen to Ron's advice. no one should be naive enough to even think of uninstalling ie, but it behooves me that it can not stand alone on its own merit, even after all these years... ie used to be a stand alone browser on mac os x until microsoft pulled the plug in retaliation that apple released it's own safari browser. so if ie used to be a stand alone browser on mac, why can it not be on windows? what are the limitations of windows that prohibit it? anyone have an idea?

...personally, i use firefox and flock browsers

Puma:

Greetings.

I just wanted to take a moment and say "thank you" for the kind words as it's truly & sincerely appreciated. In my 2 years of blogging, either on cnet, zdnet & more recently, on Symantec's forum page, I have never had anyone say kind words. Bloggers have expanded on my ideas but have never come out directly like you have.

Getting back to disabling & / or deleting un-necessary programs during start up, the only program I use is WinPatrol Plus. It is a great all around program for beginners, novice & expert pc users. The fee is nominal (from what I recall $25) but it includes continuous updates at no cost. The updates consist information on new programs that are released & how they interact with your o/s.

I am sure you are well aware of WinPatrol Plus so I will not continue as I have stated was it does in previous blogs.

Lastly, I would like to mention to all that I personally use the following maintenance / security programs on both my HP desktop (which is 6 years old) & on my son's Dell E-1505 notebook (which is 2 years old):

Winpatrol Plus (Best product out there for reviewing start-up &/or un-necessary programs)

Ad-Aware Plus 2008 / Ad-Watch 2008 (Excellent program)

Norton Internet Security 2007 (Tried NIS 2008 but was highly disappointed & went back to 2007; Blogged about NIS 2009 for months only to be disappointed with what Symantec didn't incorpate such as complete ad-blocking & pop-up blocking functionality & capabilities and anti-phishing toolbars for non IE related browsers such as SeaMonkey among others; Already started to blog on what should be incorporated in NIS 2010).

Diskeeper 2008 Pro Premier (Excellent de-fragmentation program; Forget what MS provides as it's garbage).

Advance WindowsCare V2 Pro (Excellent program for cleaning the registry, trace histories, etc; Good for beginners to expert users)

SpyWare Blaster (Not using Spybot Search & Destroy as their is a conflict with NIS 2007; In additon, from what I recall, Symantec considers it spyware & as a result, not recommended to be installed).

CleanUp V 4.5.2

I know the preceding maintenance programs may be over-kill, but at the end of the day, I have various tools in my possession that will have with any issues I may run into.

As a side note, I also purchased 2 years ago a program called File Recovery for Windows which is a recovery software program developed by Seagate. I've only used it once & it did what I needed it to do.

Again, the only program I use to either disable & / or delete programs from my start-up is WinPatrol Plus. I highly recommend the product to anyone who really wants to speed up their pc.

Regarding browsers, I allocate no more than 10MB cache for each browser that I use. Again, my primary browser is SeaMonkey V 1.1.12 with various add-ons. My alternative browsers are Netscape 7.2, IE7 & then FireFox.

Lastly, I don't want to open a can of worms regarding MS & their o/s. All I can say is I am going to stick with my XP's SP3's as long as possible. Vista is too resource heavy & from my perspective, not as good as an o/s as XP. Remember, it is my understanding that MS is now developing it's next generation o/s. I'm glad that MS is going to provide updates / support until 2013 from what I recall.

Vista is just a stop gap measure that was forced out on the market because of the amount of money & resources allocated to it. In addition, MS had the nerve to delay XP SP3 for how long so they can push Vista on the public? Why didn't MS release Vista with SP1 at the same time? I hope all of you are knowing where I am going with this.

As Puma stated, MS chooses not to separate it's browser from the o/s for their own selfish reasons. I cannot stress enough that under no circumstance should someone un-install IE from their computer. If they chose to do so, they are going to have more trouble and problems than they can imagine.

Regarding MS, I personally respect Bill Gates vision of what he wanted to accomplish, I just don't respect how he went about doing it. How many ideas of others were taken by MS & then patented? How many companies were destroyed by what he & / MS did? I would prefer not to get on this topic as it could open up a real nasty can of worms.

All comments are welcome & encouraged. I find brain storming & discussions to be helpful to everyone as we all can learn something.

Puma, again many thanks.

Sincerely & regards,

Ron

Mark,
geo2k3 replied (post #9) to me and referred to this forum as a blog. my bad i should have stated forum. the term blog (at least to me) seems like a forum that is geared more to personal or political agendas. i'm not always perfect and can admit when i'm wrong. thanks for correcting me

reagrds,
puma

Mark:

Greetings.

I use the terms "blog" & "post" interchangeably & synonymously. Per dictionary.com, a blog is a chronology of on-line thoughts &/or ideas. A post refers to a message to a news group.

I guess we are all posting blogs (lol). A little humor never hurts.

Regards,

Ron

Randy:

Greetings.

I just wanted to take a moment and state they you do make a valid point as it relates to either a "blog" or a "post."

At the end of the day, I'm hoping that all of the ideas, comments & thoughts shared by everyone will assist in helping others.

I am considering what I just stated as a "post."

Regards,

Ron

don't say nobody told you... now you know - ROFL!

HERE IS A NEW STORY IN CASE YOU HAVE NOT READ IT, ALL BROWSERS ARE AFFECTED, SO IN THE CONCEPT OF HELPING ALL PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING ARTICLE.

Security researchers warned Friday that a new class of vulnerabilities dubbed "clickjacking" puts users of every major browser at risk from attack.

Details of the multiple flaws -- six different types by one count -- are sketchy, as the researchers, who presented some of their findings at a security conference earlier this week, have purposefully kept their information confidential as at least one vendor works on a fix.

Although the clickjacking problem has been associated with browsers -- users of Internet Explorer, Firefox, Safari, Opera, Google Chrome and others are all vulnerable to the attack -- the problem is actually much deeper, said Robert Hansen, founder and chief executive of SecTheory LLC, and one of the two researchers who discussed the bug in a semi-closed session at OWASP AppSec 2008 on Wednesday.

FULL LINK TO THE STORY

http://www.pcworld.com/article/151611/article.html?tk=nl_dnxnws