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There are a couple reasons for the RAM to not be recognized once it is installed in your system Jake so we will have to check each of them in turn to try to determine the reason you can't see the additional RAM you have installed. You say that you installed the RAM that matches the system specifications which is a great first step. You might also want to verify that it matches the RAM that is already installed. If you have differing speeds on your installed memory sticks then it can cause all the memory to run at the lowest speed of the sticks installed. This wouldn't stop the memory from being detected by your system, but is just something to keep in mind when looking to add more memory to a system.
The first thing I would look at would be to verify that you have got the memory stick seated properly in it's slot. Sometimes you might hear it "snap" into place, but it isn't really completely seated. So take the memory back out again, make sure the clips are moved to the open position, check the orientation of the memory stick (there is a little slot cut into the stick and a matching knob in the motherboard slot). Slowly insert the memory stick giving it a good push to make sure both arms on the memory slot on the motherboard "snap" into place. Then I usually give the memory stick another SMALL wiggle to make sure all contacts are touching properly and everything is in contact. Then try starting the system up again and see if the memory shows up. You might try to verify what the startup screen shows for installed memory too. It's pretty rare, but sometimes it will show that the motherboard sees the memory at startup but then Windows doesn't show it when fully started. That tends to have more to do with mis-matched memory in my experience, so I don't think you will find that to be the issue.
Another item to check on (and you can do this while making sure the stick is inserted fully into it's slot) would be the number of memory sticks in the system. You mentioned that the system came with 1GB already installed but you didn't specify if that was a single 1GB stick, or 2 sticks of 512MB. Some motherboards require that memory be installed in "pairs" so you always have to install 2 sticks of memory when upgrading. There are a couple ways to verify this, some of them far from exact, but still worth noting. When looking at the motherboard are the memory slots color coded (2 slots black and 2 blue maybe?)? That is one "very non-specific" way to check. If your system came with 2 sticks of 512 you can try replacing one of those sticks with your new stick and see if everything comes back. That would allow you to verify that the new stick you bought is good (can possibly be a bad stick of RAM you got) and it would test the paired memory requirements. If that is the case, then try taking out all but one stick and see if the system starts. If it doesn't it is a good indicator that you need to go get another stick of memory to add in so you have a total of 4. Another way to check the memory needs would be to go to HP's site and see if you can find anything about that system requiring matched memory.
Now, if the system came with a single stick of 1GB memory then it could be that the system doesn't require matched pairs, but that it does require same size memory in the RAM slots. That again could be based on color coding (assuming your board was color coded) so if the 1GB stick is in the blue slot, then try putting your 512 stick into a black slot and see if it shows then.
Finally, if there was a single 1GB stick in the system, replace it with your new 512 stick and try each of the single sticks in different memory slots. This will help you to make sure that EVERYTHING is fully functional. If you try each memory stick in each memory slot one at a time, then you will know that everything is working and you have a memory sizing issue and need to get same sized memory to put into the system.
Hope that helps you to get going with your new system. I applaud your effort to make this simplest of upgrades yourself, and despite your difficulties it is still one of the easiest and best ways to get the most out of your system. Being that it is a media center PC then getting a full 2GB of memory installed is a great route to take to ensure that you get smooth playback off all your media and get the most out of that system.
Submitted by: Greg H.
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Hi Jake,
To be honest, the information you have provided is a little sparse - additional information, such as the model, memory slots and existing memory configuration would have been helpful.
I'll make some assumptions but if these are incorrect don't bother reading further. I'm assuming the machine comes with 4 DDR or DDR2 slots on two channels. I'll also assume that the existing memory is in two sticks of 512 MB each, one in each channel pair. The other possibility is a single stick of 1 GB, or I suppose, two stick in the same channel.
Some of the HP Media Centre models support different memory speeds - the obvious recommendation is to ensure that any stick you add is exactly the same spec and speed. You say you have checked that the new stick matches the HP spec, so check that it is the same as the initial memory. Check also that they are all either ECC or non-ECC. Some systems accept a mix, some don't.
Where did you put the new stick? I'd recommend that you put both the two existing sticks (or the single 1 GB stick) into the first channel pair (you may need to move one if they were originally on separate channels) and put the new stick by itself in the first slot of the second channel pair.
However, the first thing to do is to check the new memory stick actually works. Take out all the memory sticks. Put the new memory stick in channel 0 slot 0 (which should be where one of the original sticks was). Power up the machine. It should recognise the memory and come up with 512 MB. If it doesn't, the memory is either incompatible with the machine or is faulty. In either case, you want to get it replaced.
If it worked, shut down the machine again and move the new memory to channel 1 slot 0 and power up. It should work again at 512 MB. If not, the memory slot may be faulty. Power off and put the original memory into Channel 0 Slot 0 and Channel 0 slot 1. Power up and you should see 1GB. If not, Channel 0 slot 1 may be faulty. Assuming it worked, add in the new memory to Channel 1 slot 0. If you don't see 1.5 GB, then the new memory is incompatible with the old (since you know all the individual components are working).
I suppose there is an outside possibility that you have a machine that wants memory added in pairs - my HP doesn't care and it's a long time since I saw a machine that did, but you should check.
Good Luck.
Submitted by: Sav. M. of the United Kingdom
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Hi Jake,
Memory can be a fickle item sometimes. Sometimes something as simple as "brand" will cause it to not run.
If you had supplied the model# of the HP computer, or even the model/serial numbers off of each of the memory boards, it would have been much easier to pinpoint the problem. Most modern computers will still boot up as long as it has "some" memory to work with.
I haven't bought an HP in many years, but HP and Compaq both used to use proprietary memory only (or brands that had compatible memory as licensed from them). This could be the case, although over the years I believe the act of using proprietary memory has gone by the wayside.
The next thing could be that the computer may require either ECC or NON-ECC memory and you have purchased the opposite of what it requires. Even if you buy the proper "format" (SDRAM, DDR, DDR2, etc) you may have not purchased the proper memory specifications to match the computer's need. A secondary point on this, is that some motherboards will accept either format, but not both. So if your manual says it can use ECC or NON-ECC memory, it doesn't mean it can use them both at the same time. It means you can have a 1GB and 500Mb if they are both 1 of either specification, not mixed. In these cases, the motherboard will generally pick the one in slot 1 and ignore the other one.
Another possibility, similarly related to ECC/NON-ECC type specification, is that memory comes in REGISTERED and NON_REGISTERED varieties. Some motherboards can use either, and some use one or the other. Again, you may still have purchased the proper format (SDRAM, DDR, DDR2, etc) but you may have not purchased the proper registration requirement.
Last, you do not specify if the 1 GB of ram that it came with is in the form of 1 memory board or 2? If it has 2 memory boards to make 1 GB, chances are the system requires Dual-Channel memory, which requires a PAIR of memory boards to be added, not just single boards. If you add a single board in this case, it will not be loaded unless it finds a matching partner.
Submitted by: Greg P. of Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
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Jake:
There are many potential issues here. Before you continue, do the obvious and insure that your addon is fully seated into the slot.
I have found that the issue of RAM specifications is a big cloud. Even people who should know the difference and what the specs actually mean are challenged.
The MotherBoard RAM configururation is not the same for these systems, and the RAM specs are also different.
check list:
#1. Is the original 1G RAM 1 or 2 sticks? If it is 2 then your system MAY require RAM to be installed in pairs. Remove one of the original RAM sticks to see if the system still runs. If it doesn't run then you need two addon sticks to make the addon work.
#2 If there are 2 sticks then each one is 512M and you can swap out one of the original with the addon. If it doesn't run then there is an issue with the addon RAM - either specs or functionality. If it does work then place the original RAM into slot 3. If it isn't recognized, then get another addon stick, total 4 sticks, and you should be good to go. Note: this does not eliminate the possibility of a problem with the motherboard slot. A close visual inspection may reveal an issue of bent connector pins, etc.-otherwise you will just have to get another stick to really know- UNLESS this system will run with the original 2 sticks in the other 2 slots. Some systems will, if it doesn't it is not conclusive.
#3 The RAM spec is the hardest to resolve. This site lists about 175 variations of your system: http://www.memoryx.net/mediacenter.html Some take DDR PC3200, some DDR2-400. I didn't find any that took ECC, but I didn't look at them all. Do a search on the p/n of your addon RAM and verify that the specs are the same as the original RAM (search its p/n also). Note: try to use the same site for comparision since every site seems to list specs differently.
Good luck.
Submitted by: Bill R. of Cary, North Carolina
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Jake,
Years ago there were lots of things that could go wrong with RAM installs - so many different types of ram, DIP switches to set, needing specific combinations of sockets in use. These days it's a lot simpler and since your PC is relatively new, I'm surprised you're having trouble.
So here are my thoughts. I'm going to assume that you have checked that the ram is the right way round and pushed all the way into the socket. I have seen brand new PCs that wouldn't boot because the ram had fallen out!
OK so you think the spec. of the new ram matches the old, but even so there can be differences that cause trouble. Some ram sticks are double-sided and some single-sided, and my rule of thumb is not to mix types. When I upgrade I normally buy all new memory and put the old on ebay.
You might also want to consider a performance issue: your PC may have dual channel capability. This basically speeds up ram by accessing two sticks at a faster rate than is possible with one. So, if you have two sticks in there already, you might be compromising speed a little by adding one extra. This all depends on the motherboard and chipset but if you have dual-channel, it's worth upgrading to 2G by putting two identical 1G sticks in, rather than just the single extra stick.
Is it possible that you have some BIOS settings for the ram that are good for your existing ram but not for the new? For example, if your new ram is slightly slower than the old, and the BIOS has been tweaked for performance. I recommend setting all the ram timing options to default.
You don't say whether you currently have 2x512MB or 1x1G, but can your motherboard take the combination of memory you are attempting to plug in? If you have 2x512, maybe you could try using one old stick along with the new, to prove this.
Finally, are you sure that your new stick works? Try taking out all the existing memory, and use the 512M on its own. If you've already reset the bios settings to default, and this stick isn't working on its own, it may be faulty.
Submitted by: Nigel B. of Liverpool, United Kingdom
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I am assuming that your HP system does not use a proprietary design for its memory modules. Some computer manufacturers, such as Dell, used to do this. If this is the case, generic, industry-standard form factor modules will not work properly in your system.
Is your motherboard configured for DDR2 memory? If so, you must install the memory modules in pairs. Typically the first pair occupies slots 1 and 3 and the second pair occupies slots 2 and 4. If this is the case, you'll need to buy another 512MB module. However, I would suggest that before you buy another module, you remove all of the memory modules and make sure that the specs on the new module match those on the original modules.
You may also be able to disable the DDR2 feature, in which case the system will revert to plain DDR and you will lose some performance benefits but your new module should be recognized. Consult the documentation for your system or motherboard to find out how to do this.
There is also the possibility that the memory module is defective. The best way to find out is to substitute another module. Reputable memory module manufacturers will exchange a defective module under warranty.
Brand quality is important. I recommend buying memory modules from http://www.crucial.com. Crucial is the marketing arm for Micron, which makes good-quality modules. Many computer manufacturers buy their modules from Crucial. The company has an excellent, no-questions-asked, lifetime warranty. Kingston also makes good modules. Crucial has an interactive memory upgrade finder that will identify those modules that are compatible with your system. Kingston probably has something similar.
Submitted by: Robert S.
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The possible solutions for this are as follows:
1. If the two sticks of memory are NOT identical or twins your board may not recognize the 512 stick.
2. Check the socket where the RAM is installed. Make sure it is inserted properly and the contacts are not damaged and free of debris. Try switching the two sticks putting the 512 in the slot currently occupied by the 1 Gig and the 1 Gig in the slot where the 512 is currently. This will eliminate the potential of a bad slot.
3. Check your bios to make sure it automatically updates when new RAM is added and that your system will accept the amount of RAM currently installed (unlikely this will be a problem on a new machine).
4. Finally, you may have a bad stick of RAM. If you swap the placement of the sticks and the system still does not find the 512 this is probably your problem. You can download a copy of MEMTEST and run the diagnostics or return the RAM to the store where purchased and have them test it. I have been sold a bad stick of RAM numerous times and have returned it only to have the replacement work fine. An additional note of caution when purchasing RAM make sure that the integrity of the packaging is not breached. If you purchase RAM from a store where it is stored in bins be especially cautious and possibly ask that they test it before you buy it.
Hope this helps.
Submitted by: Scott J.
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Your memory card/stick may not be recognized by the system for any of a number of reasons:
1. The card isn't seated properly, or is somehow seated backwards. Open up your PC and re-seat the stick properly.
2. Your BIOS (which runs when the system starts) needs to be refreshed.
This is most likely needed on older PCs. You normally enter the BIOS when you restart the system, either by holding a function key down or by pressing a key during startup. Some PCs allow access to the BIOS settings using a system utility. For particulars on your system, check your system's manual, visit HP's technical support site, or call the service line.
3. The memory stick is bad. Have your dealer check the memory.
4. Finally, many systems won't recognize memory beyond a certain capacity. For instance, my laptop only recognizes 1 GB of memory. It's possible that the extra 512 MB of memory can't be used at all by your PC. Again, check your manual or call HP's tech support.
5. One last possibility, but only on older systems (but not yours): you might have to change DIP switches on the motherboard to allow the extra memory to be recognized.
Submitted by: Pat O.
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Jake,
Chances are excellent that the memory you got, while it's the correct specification for the computer, is missing something - another stick of RAM.
Many 64 bit and dual core motherboard/CPUs these days require that memory be installed in pairs - as what's known as Dual Channel. This simply means that you need a matched set of memory sticks in order for the system to recognize more than one GB of RAM.
Things to check to verify this is the case:
1.) Check the manual for information on RAM upgrades. If you don't have the manual, check on line. HP will have the computer's manual on their website in PDF format.
2.) Not so many moons ago, you could simply check the screen during the boot process - however, these days, the information generated during the POST and boot sequence is usually obscured by corporate logos - but on some systems you can still press the TAB key to hide the logo and see some information. If you see something that says something like "Memory Runs As Dual Channel", you've got confirmation.
3.) Check the existing RAM - judging by the wording in your question, it sounds like the computer probably has a pair of 512 MB sticks installed by the factory. If this is the case, you'll probably need a 4th stick.
Just to verify the RAM is good, you can, carefully, remove one of the existing factory sticks and replace it with the other module and boot the computer. It should read as a full GB of RAM. Anything less and you quite probably have a defective stick of memory.
Submitted by: Pete Z.
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Jake K,
I think this may be your problem, with a dual core processor you have to install match paired memory sticks, in other words the memory sticks must match equally, so in other words if you want to put another 512 megs of memory to the computer you have to put a matching setup of 256 megs sticks in the memory slots for the system to recognize the extra ram, on a dual core chip setup you have to match the sticks in a parallel to get them to work and get recognized.
This is because a dual core processor requires a matched set of memory sticks to work properly, if you add memory to boost the processors ram you have to do it equally cause a dual core processor needs memory put in pairs, this is because the separate cores of the processor, each require its own memory and there is a certain way you have to install memory on the mother board to make sure the cpu recognizes the extra memory, you should have four sockets on the mother board, dimmA1, dimmA2, dimmB1, and dimmB2, if you notice, the memory in your mother board, that came with the computer, should be in dimmA1 and dimmB1, so if you upgrade ram, you have to put in a matched setup in dimmsA2, and dimmB2, otherwise the cpu will not recognize the extra memory in a dual core setup.
Again this is because in a dual core setup computer each core requires its own memory to pull from, but remember the memory sticks must be a matched set, or it will not work, I think this should help you with your problem.
Submitted by: Mike E.
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There are several reasons that a new memory module may go unrecognized by a computer. The first I can think of is that the new module is defective, perhaps you can install it in another computer to test. The second could be that your computer requires memory modules to be installed in pairs. If that is the case with yours, you can try to exchange the single 512M for two 256M's, or simply buy another 512M and upgrade to 2G. Number three may be the BIOS, while modern BIOS should recognize a change in memory automatically, this may have been turned off on your computer. When you boot, watch the screen carefully for the key to enter Setup, and hit it. Scroll or tab to the settings for memory and make sure it's set for automatic detection or enter your new memory size manually. If none of these is the problem you may have a bad memory socket or a motherboard problem.
Submitted by: Howard V.