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Windows 7: Windows 7, please enlighten me with your opinions on this to be released OS

by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator - 4/17/09 3:39 PM
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Windows 7, please enlighten me with your opinions on this to be released OS

by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator - 4/17/09 3:39 PM

Question:

This may be a premature questions, but I would to know a bit more about Windows 7. For those who beta tested Windows 7 and/or are still currently running Windows 7, what is your opinion on Windows 7? Is it really better than Vista or worse? If better, how so? Are there more features? What new features can we expect to see? My current system is running Windows Vista, will I have to upgrade my hardware again to run 7? And last question, will you be upgrading to Windows 7 when it is released? Please enlighten me on anything you can for me and others who are curious and anticipating this new OS release. Thank for all your opinions and insights to these questions.

Submitted by: Enrique B.

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It's not bad... For a BETA... --Submitted by Wolfie2k5
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W7 looks promising

by Robocoastie - 4/10/09 6:26 PM In reply to: Windows 7, please enlighten me with your opinions on this to be released OS by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

After using the Beta I think Win 7 looks promising for NEW PC's or custom built to spec.

It has a "My Documents" system that is more easily managed for households with multiple usernames and account levels and an easier network filesharing setup. Their current Windows Movie Maker is horrible though so I do NOT recommend downloading the beta of that.

I hope MSFT does two things: ditch 32 bit, all computers out there that will be able to run Win7 will be 64bit CPU's anyway so end the confusion and potential of people getting a version on training wheels with their new pc. And I hope they end the version confusion (basic, pro, ultimate etc... ad nauseum). A home user has just as much need for hard drive encryption as a business machine anyway and it costs them NOTHING more to add it so go back to 1 version with the option of turning features on or off and be done with it.

All this being said though I will not be buying Win7. There is nothing it can do that my Ubuntu 64bit Linux can't do better and MSFT has fleeced me one too many times in the past.

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Ohhhhh !

by Sheitan86 - 4/11/09 1:54 AM In reply to: W7 looks promising by Robocoastie

Despite the fact that I'm running the 64 bit flavour I do not agree, MS must keep the 32 bits flavour of Windows 7.
Windows 7 runs fine on some platforms Vista does'nt.
E.G. I friend of mine is running Windows 7 32 bits (Pentium III 1 GHZ with 1MB of memory)
With MS dropping down support for XP skipping the 32 bits version amounts to give up this market share to Linux.

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Cannot run on 1MB of RAM

by billinghamj - 4/18/09 12:57 AM In reply to: Ohhhhh ! by Sheitan86

Are you sure that your friend wasn't using 1GB of RAM, because Windows 7's minimum requirement for RAM is 512MB.

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Typing mistake

by Sheitan86 - 4/18/09 1:35 AM In reply to: Cannot run on 1MB of RAM by billinghamj

1GB of memory :)

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THE NEW OS DOES SEEM PROMISING, BUT

by shaliko1 - 4/17/09 6:51 PM In reply to: W7 looks promising by Robocoastie

I FOUND WHILE BETA TESTING THE OS THERE WAS A LOT INCOMPATBILITY ISSUES WITH OTHER PROGRAMS AND THEY WOULD NOT RUN PROPERLY IN COMPATIBILITY MODE EITHER. IM WELL VDERSED IN THIS SENSE I STARTED MY
COMPUTER LIFE WITH PDP8,16,32 AND THERE WAS THE INTRODUCTION OF VIRTUAL MEMORY IN THE VAX 11670, BUT THE MAIN PROBLEM THEN [1978]WAS
THAT THE SOFTWARE WAS LAGGING BEHIND WHAT THE HARDWARE WAS ABLE TO DO
IN SPEED OF BIT TRANSFER.NOW IT SEEMS THAT ITS SLIGHTLY THE OTHER WAY
IN MOST CASES. ONECE THE CHANGE OF DATA TRANSFER IS GIVEN TO THE MENORY DRIVE THEN SPEEDS WILL BE MUCH BETTER AND THE COMPATIBILITY ISSUE WILL START TO EASE A LITTLE.FROM WHAT I COULD SEE WAS THAT THE 32BIT VERSION WAS ACTING LIKE A 64BIT VERSION AND THE 64BIT VERSION
WAS ACTING LIKE A 128BIT VERSION BECAUSE THE C CHECK BIT WAS ALWAYS ON
AND ERRORS SEEM TO FLUCIATE IN THERE OPERATION.

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Must you shout?

by ia3d - 4/17/09 6:57 PM In reply to: THE NEW OS DOES SEEM PROMISING, BUT by shaliko1

I have no idea as to what you wrote because I have too much difficulty reading things typed in all capital letters. I hope it wasn't anything too important ...

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large caps are better

by hilipp - 4/18/09 7:20 AM In reply to: Must you shout? by ia3d

Actually large caps are better for people like me with eyesight problems so I appreciate what you call shouting. And it isn’t really shouting now is it, its just that someone somewhere made up that silly idea. Large caps are the old standard. (very old)

BBp

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Uhm.. shouting?

by FrankQC - 4/20/09 10:44 AM In reply to: Must you shout? by ia3d

You shouldn't be mean to someone because they type in all capitals.

Maybe his keyboard is busted and is stuck in all capitals?

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LARGE TYPE

by Ihaveq - 5/3/09 6:49 AM In reply to: Must you shout? by ia3d

LARGE TYPE IS MUCH BETTER FOR SOME OF US TO READ.

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Not only where you shouting but...

by REMincks - 4/17/09 7:00 PM In reply to: THE NEW OS DOES SEEM PROMISING, BUT by shaliko1

you never actually tied it, otherwise you would have seen that there are very few if any comatability problems with Windows7, even in the official beta version which is build 7000. Not only that there have been no significant driver issues to date. So, if you wish to comment be at least a little honest in your replys.

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DEC Influance

by jchavez903 - 4/17/09 9:39 PM In reply to: THE NEW OS DOES SEEM PROMISING, BUT by shaliko1

I have been around a little (windows 2.0, Novell 2.0). If I recall the PDP's and Vax's were mini's. The ALPHA's were RISC micro's. Ran a DEC ALPHA 2100 as an NT 4.0 Server. Ran circles around the intel based processors. Used to work for a company called Datapoint which gave Intel the 8008 based (predecessor of x86) processor which was mini based. Decided the micro version (intel fabed it for them)...to slow...and gave it to intel...funny, the rest is history. Comparing current stuff to old mini based processors is apples and oranges.

Having said that, I find it interesting that there is a lot of old DEC/COMPAQ/HP VMS OS in windows 2000 and up.

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History

by scottwilkins - 4/18/09 7:18 AM In reply to: DEC Influance by jchavez903

My history is a bit pre-gui OS based. RISC processors were a fantastic add to the computing power of today's chips. Raw speed learned from these processors is now incorporated into the multi-capable chips. Raw speed was not enough though. Today's chips combine complex (CISC) instructions with RISC speed to give programmers abilities that just raw speed alone could never have achieved.

If We could re-visit history, I'm sure a LOT of things would be different. But, to stretch to call it better would be impossible due to the dynamics of what a modern computer is made of today. It all comes down to how much we know, and if we knew differently it may or may not be better.

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Reduced Instruction Set Computer

by jchavez903 - 4/20/09 5:58 AM In reply to: History by scottwilkins

RISC is the acronyum for Reduced Instruction Set Computer. It is what it implies. The issue between Mini(Datapoint 2208) and Micro (Intel 8008/x86) is the input/output buss. Where as, the Main/Mini (realcomputers) support a parrallel bus (multiple bits per instruction cycel) vs Micro/PC's (Play Computers...just kidding) supports a serial buss (one bit at a time). Though the modern day micor processors run at relative blazing speeds...again subject for debate...can only input/output serially. A major bottleneck. Therefore no matter How fast the clock, instruction cycle and or memorey recovery time is, They are essentially going nowhere fast...pun intended.

When I started in computers (Nova 8), though they where parrallel processors, they had a major bottleneck...we used to hand load boot through a switch registor...binary to octal or hex.

Believe me...I have met people that can tell me stories about things like the development of, and where part, things like the disk drive.

It's all MFM to me.

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Not surprising

by jgeisman - 4/19/09 11:45 AM In reply to: DEC Influance by jchavez903

NT et al. were driven by Dave Cutler... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Cutler

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