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by arred - 1/31/05 3:21 PM
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security for macs

by arred - 1/31/05 3:21 PM

Hello, I`m a new mac user, I was using windows before, and as you can imagine I use to have an antivirus, a firewall, anti spyware programs , a pop up killer, etc. Now my question is this, I got the mac, do I need all this stuff for it? and where can i find it? is there any freeware programs like, zonealarm or spybot?, Somebody told me that I don`t need any of this for the mac, but I`m not sure, I do my banking online and buy things so I want to know that my conection is secure, any help will be apreciated, thanks

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Security

by mrmacfixit Moderator - 1/31/05 4:16 PM In reply to: security for macs by arred

Norton make a Personal Firewall Mac edition and also the antivirus program. Spyware is not a problem, neither is adware or other such malware. Safari or Firefox have popup killers. DO NOT USE Internet Explorer, unless you are using OS 9 or below.
Currently there are NO virus's for OS X but you might like to feel safe. OS X has a built in Firewall but the Norton one is slightly more sophisticated.
Hope this helps

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security

by arred - 1/31/05 5:05 PM In reply to: Security by mrmacfixit Moderator

Ok, basically I`m not using anything right now, am I at risk? and it looks that the only thing i might need is firewall right? and how about shopping and banking?

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Security

by mrmacfixit Moderator - 2/1/05 4:58 AM In reply to: security by arred

I would consider the firewall to be the first essential, followed by the AV which is not so essential for Mac OS X. Do bear in mind that AV will spot Windo virus's that are attached to emails and remove them. This stops you from sending them along to your PC weenie friends.

On-Line banking is fine because Safari, or Firefox, are both capable of encrypted connections (https) I on-line bank all the time.

You can always use the firewall built into the OS. you will find it under the Sharing Preference Pane
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Ok, thanks guys

by arred - 2/2/05 3:26 PM In reply to: Security by mrmacfixit Moderator

I just will use the firewall, i`ll try to get the antivirus later, thank you for your help, I`ll be comfortable for now on, knowing that I`m secure.

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One more thought on AntiVirus at .Mac

by educateme - 2/4/05 12:48 PM In reply to: Ok, thanks guys by arred

HI
As a cross platform consulting specialist I support many clients who have both Macs and Windows in their home or business, often to enjoy the best of both worlds, such as having a Sports Car and a Pickup Truck in the garage, or in this case the Mac and a PC.

I do things such as new system setups, and networking or wifi planning, or file sharing, and LAN, WAN network protection and think youre going to find there to be very little need for much more than a Firewall. OS X has this built in, and you can continue to use your existing hardware firewall to serve both the Mac and your PC and both will benefit.

Depending on Filesharing and things such as iTunes music sharing between the Mac and Windows PC, the software firewalls in Windows XP and Macintosh OS X both have certain ports that need to be opened. Often just leaving the software firewalls turned off is best, assuming you are keeping both of them protected behind a hardware firewall like a Belkin, Linksys, or Apple Airport.

The Norton Internet Security is a bundle of software tools that are very aggressive in protecting a Mac, almost to the point of taking the ease of use, and Mac's simplicity, or fun away, and making many "On-Guard" PC type popups appear requesting permission to Scan, Block or otherwise interfere with your work flow while Norton jumps to Warn you about a minor event.

As was written in an earlier post, there are not any viruses or weakeneeses in OS X that warrant such an aggressive bundle as Norton provides unless you are very suspect of being snooped on somehow. Usually a hardware router/firewall is all one needs.

Your last concern, Antivirus from Norton as a separate product is also available for OS X and mostly protects you from sending along a virus from an MS Word or Excel file that a PC user sent with a Virus, or some emails that contain attachments that would not harm the Mac at all, but could make your PC friends resent you for unknowingly forwarding them a tainted email from a PC user who sent it to you in the first place.

The AntiVirus solution that might be most beneficial is to sign up for a .Mac trial account and the free downloads from Apple include a full version of AntiVirus software, I believe it is called Virex. Plus having the .Mac account interfaces with many other great features that tie your Mac to the rest of the built in software such as, iDisk, online data backups, Synchronizing bookmarks and address books between systems, email, web page publishing, games, iPhoto library sharing and numerous freebies they throw in monthly. After the trial I think the 1st year costs $69, and later $99 but you can buy a renewal subscription from Amazon.com for a discount which most people dont know about.

Hope this helps.

please email if you require more exact information

Jonathan
educateme@aol.com

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Wow, good tip...

by RenoDavid - 2/4/05 1:35 PM In reply to: One more thought on AntiVirus at .Mac by educateme

Hey Jonathan, thanks for the great tip on the discounted .Mac membership from Amazon.com. Just wish I had known that when I renewed recently. I won't forget next year!

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One More Thought

by taboma. - 2/4/05 9:06 PM In reply to: One more thought on AntiVirus at .Mac by educateme

Johnathan,
I had Symantic/Norton installed on my Mac for about three months. Really irritating and slowed down my work-flow. I did an uninstall and my G-4 Mac Server is now working very smoothly. I understand that Symantic was originally designed for the PC and Norton is nothing more than Window dressing. Virex is a Mac designed program.
Food for thought.
Kevin

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Mac Snobs

by tbcass - 2/5/05 4:52 AM In reply to: Security by mrmacfixit Moderator

I see that there are still Mac snobs out there. Quote: "PC weenie friends". Are such childish comments really necessary?

Tom

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uuugh again.....

by TheRogu3Pen - 3/9/05 8:25 AM In reply to: Mac Snobs by tbcass

I guess they are....
All I can say is "Sour Grapes"

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(NT) Is your comment "sophisticated"?

by what_now3 - 3/9/05 9:43 PM In reply to: Mac Snobs by tbcass

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security for macs

by Tom1 - 2/4/05 5:01 PM In reply to: security for macs by arred

I am in the process of switching also for the same reasons. Anxious to hear responses from Mac users.

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Security for Macs

by RWD - 2/4/05 5:44 PM In reply to: security for macs by Tom1

I've been using the firewall built into Panther and the free Virex download from .mac for anti-virus. I connect to a wireless network and cable modem at home. As stated previously, there is no spyware currently that affects OSX.

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Security for Mac

by taboma. - 2/4/05 9:46 PM In reply to: Security for Macs by RWD

RWD, Virex is a Mac program. Norton came from Windows.
I nade a mistake at first, purchasing Norton SystemWorks for $89, less than six months ago. For the first three months, Norton never was updating to my site. Why? Maybe no new virus activity, or nothing at all concerning a Mac. My PC was constantly being updated from Norton a couple of years ago. (I use my PC now for games).
Norton AntiVirus works well for the PC. Norton Utilities are worthwhile and do work on the Mac. Spring Cleaning is a little suspicious to use on a Mac. It was again designed for Windows.
MrMacfixit said "Never use it on a Mac". Wonder why?
I also plan a trial version from Apple and/or to purchase VIREX from Amazon.
An AOL tech person also suggested to use Virex instead of Norton when I was having a ton of problems with my AOL service. I uninstalled Norton and now my AOL is running smoothly also. Wonder why?
Hope this info helps you,
Kevin

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Spring Cleaning

by mrmacfixit Moderator - 2/5/05 5:39 AM In reply to: Security for Mac by taboma.

This program will, under os 9, give the unsuspecting user a list of files that Spring Cleaning thinks it no longer needs or that have not been used for a long while.
Being from Norton, a company Mac users used to trust, the average user would accept whatever the program suggested, thinking that obviously Norton knew what they were doing, Click on the Remove button and end up with a machine that was missing dozens of vital and essential files. I have restored at least a dozen machines belonging to people who thought that Spring Cleaning was "doing its job". Norton have dropped the ball too many times over the last few years on the Mac side. So much so that they no longer support, or produce SystemWorks for the Mac.
Of course, that is just my experience.

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