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Community Newsletter: Q&A: 1/28/05 Digitizing 35mm negatives and slides

by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator - 1/27/05 5:13 PM
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Re: hp scanner model.

by higgie - 1/28/05 11:10 AM In reply to: Re: Slides & Negs. by FrankS

It is HP Scanjet 3970, it scans very fast but, if at high resoluations, for example, 4800DPI it can take up to around 2-2 1/2 minutes to scan the slide or negative... I am not sure of time of scan... Please check with HP.com for specifications.. I am sure that you can find information you needed to know...

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Digitizing 110 Film Negatives

by jorgito2k - 1/28/05 5:31 AM In reply to: 1/28/05 Digitizing 35mm negatives and slides by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

How are you Lee? I read your Q&A when a subject interests me like the question about digitizing 35mm negatives and slides. My question is there a way to digitize 110 film negatives.

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Digitizing 110 Film Negatives

by sam sox - 1/28/05 6:16 AM In reply to: Digitizing 110 Film Negatives by jorgito2k

Have been scanning negatives and slides to file for about 10 years. In the past 5 have used very successfully an Epson 2450 and more recently an Epson 4180 Prefection Photo Scanner. They both come with outstanding software that makes the ditigizing of negatives up to 4 x 5" very easy. Basically, if the size of the negative is not larger than the opening for the lamp in the top of the scanner lid, it can be scanned. If you intend to have prints made from your scans at some future date, scan them at a minumum of 300 dpi and size the scan at the time of scanning for what you think will be the maximum size of print you may want some day. You can always decrease the scan size without loosing clarity but you cannot increase it without the print loosing quality. As to scanning slides, I scan 1 to 1, that is original size and at 2400 dpi. This will give you a maximum print size of 11 x 14. As I said, you can always reduce the size of the print. I use Photoshop 7 for cleaning, adjusting the color and contrast. Good luck!

Post 49 of 106

digitalizing 110 film.

by higgie - 1/28/05 11:16 AM In reply to: Digitizing 110 Film Negatives by jorgito2k

Why not you take the 110 films to photo shop to have them transferred to CD... It usually takes about 1 to 2 days to process them... If the photo shop has the computer system that creates CD on site... It will take about 25 mintues to complete the digitalizing process. I watch them at CVS do that process. I had the several films processed there...

Post 50 of 106

digtising 35mm

by golfixer - 1/28/05 5:56 AM In reply to: 1/28/05 Digitizing 35mm negatives and slides by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I had one of the flat bed scanners with the 35mm attachment which is now gathering dust. Not at all satisfactory!!! I bought a Prime Film scanner on eBay for $85. It does a fantastic job, has lots of control, is easy to use and you can do a carousel of slides (80) in about 2 hours. I can recommend it highly.

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Digitizing 35mm negatives and slides

by paulm-2 - 1/28/05 6:31 AM In reply to: 1/28/05 Digitizing 35mm negatives and slides by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Presently I am reviewing 60K or so of old slides that date back to 1948. I have "copied" 3000 so far. When I say copied, I am using a home built copy stand and my Olympus C3020 Camera set in Macro mode with focus set at about 3 inches. This is a trick feature of Olympus as the normal Macro mode is 8 inches.
So far I have copied Kodachrome, Extrachrome, Anscochrome, 3M film types. The 50+ year old Kodachrome is the best for no color cast. Extrachrome in 35mm has a redish cast, 2-1/4 sq. Extrachrome has held its color well. Anscochrom and 3M have a blue cast.
After I take the copy pictures, I import them to my computer and with Adobe Elements, I first crop them to remove the slide carrier, them I use Auto Level, Unsharp Mask and for the slides with a color cast I use Color Variations to save the picture best I can.
Hope this is useful info for you.
Paul M.

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RE:Digitizing 35mm negatives and slides

by mailstuff - 1/28/05 6:33 AM In reply to: 1/28/05 Digitizing 35mm negatives and slides by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I had an occasion to digitize 450 old 35mm color slides. I tried the method described in the posting, which gave me results that looked cheap and it looked like I scanned them on a flat bed scanner. I had to spend lots of time fixing each slide. A great time waster with questionable results.

To scan the slides on a budget, buy a slide scanner. New they range from ~$50 - ~$120 for a reasonable scanner (www.tigerdirect.com, www.abesofmaine.com,www.bottomdollar.com, www.cnet.com, www.outpost.com, etc). The result is as good as what you will get commercially at $1.00 or more per slide. Both the quality and the savings in time and effort are well worth the special scanner. Then when you are done, put an ad on ebay.

I was able to scan and process a slide in ~2 - 4 minutes per with the slide scanner. I had a few touchups and reconstructions but the slides were 40 years old. When I was finished, they looked like the orignial photo. I also scanned them at a high resolution so that they could be enlarged, etc. Something that a flat bed with an adapter does not do very well.

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Think of a Slide Scanner

by tlmedia - 1/28/05 6:44 AM In reply to: 1/28/05 Digitizing 35mm negatives and slides by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

You might think of a slide scanner.They are not cheap but might be worth it to you. I've had excellent results with the Konica Minolta DiMsge Scan Dual IV with retails for approx $300.00 or less. It does a great job. Good luck. Ted

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Digitizing slides and 35 mm film

by gordonrd - 1/28/05 6:44 AM In reply to: 1/28/05 Digitizing 35mm negatives and slides by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Agree with the answer provided, but if you do have a lot of film to scan (I have decades of family slides and both 35mm and APS film) a dedicated film scanner is the way to go. I have a high end HP flat bed scanner that came with a film adapter, and I use it for scanning larger format film, but it can't match my Nikon Coolscan V ED in performance and versatility for 35 mm and APS film. This Nikon scanner isnt cheap (about $600, with $200 more for the APS adapter if you need it) but it's half what it used to cost to get a dedicated scanner of such quality (it can do 4000 dpi and has Digital Ice technology to correct defects in film) and versatility. My only complaint is that the user interface for the scanner software is unnecessarily cumbersome.

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1/28/05 Digitizing 35mm negatives and slides

by rawer - 1/28/05 7:29 AM In reply to: 1/28/05 Digitizing 35mm negatives and slides by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I use the click click method. Set up your old slide projector and project on white wall approx 9" X 12". Set up camera next to it and focus. Then click click. Can't get any cheaper than that.
Harper Poling USA

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Digitizing 35mm slides

by jbrewste - 1/28/05 7:38 AM In reply to: 1/28/05 Digitizing 35mm negatives and slides by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I have had excellent results with a device called "Slide-to-Photo", now having transferred almost 2900 images. This device holds my digital camera immediately above the lens of a 35mm slide projector, which is projecting the image on a white paper about 3 to 4 feet away. Project the image, take a picture with the camera, go to the next slide and repeat until finished. Then I transfer the images to my computer. This is done in a walk-in closet I have so I can have the room dark. I rotate all the slides to a horizontal position, as this is the orientation of the camera, and I have taken 3mg pictures, though 1mg might work well. My camera has zoom on it, so I can get the image on the screen (paper) to fill the viewfinder, and I turn off the flash. The camera is auto-focus. I have taken pictures that show the lines in seersucker material used in suits.

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Scanning Slides

by jshoema - 1/28/05 9:01 AM In reply to: 1/28/05 Digitizing 35mm negatives and slides by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I tried the flat bed scanner approach using a special lighted cover for my scanner. The results were terrible, totally unacceptable. I wound up purchasing a Minolta scanner for slides and negatives. If there are not a large number of slides to be scanned, another option would be to use the services of a photo processor who offers scanning. This can get expensive for a large number, but would be reasonable for a small number.

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Digitizing 35mm negatives and slides

by jmacpher - 1/28/05 9:05 AM In reply to: 1/28/05 Digitizing 35mm negatives and slides by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Friends:

I have been there, done that, read the book, saw the movie.

I have flat bed scanner and thousands of Slides. I have read through the internet describing how to build your own, I even design and improved my own... could scan 8 slides at a time... I completed all my slides and was impressed with what I had done... After all slides were scanned then I had to work on every one of them to improve them with a Photo enhancing program!!! Lots of work and I still wasn't finished...

My cousin introduced me to his Digital camera,,, I was sold on Digital cameras, they do SOOO much!!! So OK I now have a digital camera (purchased on eBay), so now I start looking for accessories, (again eBay)... Wow they got a lot of stuff there...

Neat they have a "Slide Duplicator", I'll try that...
Wow My SLIDES are all rejuvenated and this slide duplicator/copier also does negatives... I can do everything with a little attachment to my digital camera, EVERYTHING!!!

These completed slide conversions are like having a digital camera 30 years ago,,, it improved the slides with colour, lighting, zoom enhancing. Now I can get busy on all my negatives, YUP it does them too!!!

SOOO all those write ups were a waste of time reading!!! This is even better than the professional scanning... This duplicator was secondhand and only cost me $.99 YUP 99 cents. New would have cost me $150 BUT this duplicator is also a macro lens so I can take close-ups of coins, stamps flowers, bugs etc.

On Ebay I was looking at new copiers-duplicators at about $57 US but not all of them were born equal I did a lot of reading and decided to go for the one with zoom capabilities, macro, negative copying, basically more versatile more than a slide copier..

This is long winded but worth it.
Yes you can scan your own with a flat bed if you don't care how they look and will need a photo program, but way mentioned above MUCH MORE EASIER AND MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE. The end results cheaper and better product.

Thanks for reading
John

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Slides and negitives

by lbivins - 1/29/05 6:29 AM In reply to: Digitizing 35mm negatives and slides by jmacpher

Is the duplicator that you got on E-bay camera brand specific or is it a generic accessory. I have been loking for just such an item for ever.

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Digitizing 35mm negatives and slides

by smilusa - 1/28/05 9:15 AM In reply to: 1/28/05 Digitizing 35mm negatives and slides by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

If you have a lot of slides/negatives, it is not cost effective to use a commercial outlet. I have found that they be scan differently to create at least 3 different qualities with 3 different prices. Too costly.

If you have lots of slides/negative, it might be cheaper to purchase a film scanner instead of the flat-bed scanners. I have not had any luck using a flat-bed scanner. I did purchase a film scanner, but not much luck there either. You get what you pay for. So I will spend a little more on the NEXT film scanner. A little research on the WEB and/or a good camera store will result in finding a GOOD film scanner for a good price.

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