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by Ugg - 11/20/04 9:01 PM
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Post 16 of 34

Microsoft is Spying On Peoples

by matrix777 - 12/24/04 4:28 PM In reply to: Re: Generic OS Question. by radioactive1

Ofcourse MicroS*cks is spying on us.

Now How would I come to know I do not have a Jennie with a Lamp ;-)

Use Some Good Fire Wall and some Trojan Guarder type software and see it for your self.


SNDMON.exe in Windows 2000 Professional \ Server
Hackcmd.exe in Windows almost every version.

A software could hook that hackcmd.exe and etc etc...

Where these files are??? In services My dear and some other services running in back Ground too, not mentioned here.... are known as too nosy services..

If you have experience to updated you MicroS*cks OS install all updates and keep you system updated then install some internet Monitoring Program \ APP to check the incoming and outgoing connections\bytes you will find some interesting things....

OPEN Your Eyes Baby.. Its True....A big Spy MicroS*cks!

Post 17 of 34

Microsoft Spying?

by NeBot - 12/25/04 8:46 PM In reply to: Microsoft is Spying On Peoples by matrix777

Matrix777:

First of all, both of those files are not on my computer and the hackcmd.exe file does not reside on any install media of microsoft. I run an MSDN Library and have access to most of the software that M$ has made.

Secondly, the idea of Microsoft spying on people using the internet brings up the question, Is anything you do on the internet anonymous? When you connect to a website that site knows the address (IP) of the computer you connected from. With that address they can find the ISP you connect to the internet from. The ISP keeps a log of who is connected to which IP at every second of the day. So if you were to do something illegal, like fraud towards that business, all they would need is your IP address and they can find you. Sure there are ways around using your "real" ip but since the web page or file got back to you there has to be a trail that can be followed, no matter how many times it is relayed it has to be logged for CYA perposes.

Personally though, I would rather be worried about someone who doesn't have anything getting my information then a company with more money then they can count getting it.

Post 18 of 34

They're Everywhere!

by Ugg - 12/27/04 4:38 AM In reply to: Microsoft Spying? by NeBot

NeBot:

What do people and or companies with BIG BUCKS want? MORE BUCKS! Like the oil companies that are making these HUGE profits, that's PROFITS, not gross, and they're not happy because they want more. Most of the really rich folk I've met are really, really cheap. They make me look like a drunken sailor, and IMO, I'm pretty darned cheap.

So MS compiles this info & sells it to whomever. I would prefer that nobody got inside my machine. Not that I'm hiding anything, it's just the principle of it. I don't want anybody knowing which hand I use to wipe my butt (actually, I use toilet paper). :D It seems that YaHoo's another big company that's spying on us. :(

Post 19 of 34

Snooping by Business or Government

by FLATFOOT - 12/24/04 1:23 AM In reply to: Generic OS Question. by Ugg

I personally do not think you have much of a choice. Big business and government are inherently dishonest and there is no way to overcome them. You just need to be careful to not put anything on your computer that you feel would be embarrasing to you. They will monitor you and deny it. It is a no win situation.

Post 20 of 34

It is illegal for anti-spyware programs to detect government

by baddawgg - 12/24/04 8:38 AM In reply to: Snooping by Business or Government by FLATFOOT

it is illegal for anti-spyware to detect government spy programs. Webroot Spy-sweeper, Ad-Aware, Spy Bot, Spy Hunter, Leak Test, Spy Cop, and Who's Watching Me all refuse to detect at least 16 spyware programs used by the FBI, CIA, Army (both US and Canadian) and other departments in the Office of Homeland Security. You don't need to worry however. Everything you do online can be detected by Carnivore and Echilon, software your ISP is REQUIRED to run on their server. The other spyware programs are used to read files on your computer generated by MS Office and Quicken

Post 21 of 34

Well, you can make it much harder for the snoopers...

by rsomoza - 12/24/04 2:47 AM In reply to: Generic OS Question. by Ugg

While it's unavoidable that people (companies, hackers & governments) spy on you, try a couple of things to make their life much harder...

a) Have a good firewall (NOT the Windows XP one), and make sure that you have all ports covered. Prohibit incoming connections unless you are sure you WANT those. Similarly, let your firewall block out EVERYTHING unless you specifically permit it (and have a good look at what you permit - if in doubt, block it).

b) Use a track erasing software. There are a couple of them that guarantee your anonimity on the Internet.

c) Apart from a good (& up-to-date)antivirus, use some Spybot/Adware blocker - these detect a lot of malicious things that many virus checkers ignore completely. I personally use Spybot Search & Destroy. You would not believe all the stuff that manages to get through while navigating the Internet, firewall or not.

d) Dump Internet Explorer - that's the greatest blaring security holes in Windows - use an alternative browser. I just installed Firefox, and probably I'll switch to this one instead of Netscape.

e) Ditch also Outlook & Outlook Express. Again, this is where all hackers look for security holes (because it's the most widely used). There are plenty of mail alternatives available -for free.

f) Get a security certificate from a trustworthy source (some provide it also for free) to certify that a message is indeed from you.

g) Encrypt sensitive mail with the highest encryption. PGP is the obvious candidate. This does not mean that a government will not be able to decypher your messages, but at least they will need a supercomputer to do that - and at least that is out of reach for 99.99999999% of all hackers & not-so-honest businesses.

h) Oh, and yes, the "stupid" (and very often forgotten) advice: Browse Internet with an account that does NOT have Admin priviledges... preferably, use the Admin account ONLY for software installation.

i) And I imagine that you have also a proper password protection on your PC, including limitation of access of directories to a specific user (if you do that, even disassembling the hard disk from your PC would make such information inaccessible to everybody except the most specialised hackers). After all, burglary is not all that uncommon....

Post 22 of 34

make it harder for the snoopers

by Anneee - 1/2/05 9:46 PM In reply to: Well, you can make it much harder for the snoopers... by rsomoza

I'm very interested in learning more about "Admin privileges" - both to protect my home pc settings (runs WinME) - and several computers in lab setups that I run/teach, some are open to gen. public use (running Win95, Win98 and WinME). Use cable modem at home with firewall; converting labs to cable modem from dial up.

Post 23 of 34

Microsoft O.S. Backdoor Spyware...

by thepan123 - 12/24/04 5:02 AM In reply to: Generic OS Question. by Ugg

This is a subject that I have argued with a friend, on occasion. I am of the thought that this is urban legend. Let's face it...any software maker could incorporate some form of spyware in their programming. If you truly beleive this is fact, why not conform to the use of a non-Microsoft operating system? Do you realize the data base Microsoft would have to have to accumulate, save and sort spyware data from everyone using XP in the world?

While I do beleive that there is some reporting to Microsoft (as my Adaware Program shows)I feel its nothing more than other typical spyware that I remove. I am security minded for myself and my clients and a ardent user of anti-spyware programs. It is a necessary evil in these times of computing.

You say your networked with three computers? Then watch what you share and how you share files between them. Use a firewall. Keep your anti-virus defs up to date.

Post 24 of 34

not so urban

by davos1 - 12/24/04 6:24 AM In reply to: Microsoft O.S. Backdoor Spyware... by thepan123

a few years ago I was testing the security of some sites, and I realized that one could bypass the Altavista firewalls from the outside part by simply using MS explorer with out privileges... looking forward, it is so logical for MS to have the information linked about the users-hardware-software, not only for royalties. Have u ever realized that if your antivirus is going to expire an increase in random attacks from virus arrives to your machines? have u ever realized that MS passport and win xp updates verifies your serial number and updates you BIOS version, and verify if your machine is part from the net group? It is logical to link the sw/hw to get royalties.
also the next logical step is to get identification/tracking of all the persons, and more with the antiterrorist campaigns.technically it is possible to do it.

Post 25 of 34

Monster Database.

by Ugg - 12/27/04 5:07 AM In reply to: Microsoft O.S. Backdoor Spyware... by thepan123

thepan123:

What does the government use? For instance, when they monitor & record ALL telephone conversations that use the airwaves (microwave transmission) in the US, & who knows where else. They've been doing this for years already. Their computers "LISTEN" for key words, & when triggered, they record the conversations & the info that goes with em (like datestamps & # ID's), & store em somewhere, somehow.

I'm from Chicago. Back in the 60's, the Chicago Police had a unit called the "RED SQUAD". Their job was to compile info on suspected commies. What they would do is follow a suspect, & when this person got to where they were going, the police would copy the names off of mailboxes for a 2.5 sq block radius from the place the person went to. They would also write down the #'s to ALL auto license plates in that same radius. They would do this EVERYWHERE the person went.

They would do this with every suspected commie. Then they would correlate all this info. Now this was before the widespread useage of computers, so you can imagine the amount of man-hours that went into this endevor. Before long, they had compiled info on over 80% of the population of Chicago.

They disbanded the "RED SQUAD" because it GOT OUT on what they were doing, but there is no mention about what was to be done with the info. Now all THAT info was stored on PAPER. Can you imagine the amount of space that took up? :(

Post 26 of 34

Theres no such thing as privacy on the net

by Grigster - 12/24/04 8:34 AM In reply to: Generic OS Question. by Ugg

I've been using MS windows since it was an adon to DOS 6.22. From its outset as far as I can determin it has had built in spyware as its now called . By useing older versons of windows it only makes things easer to spy on you by companys or hackers . I have also tryed many others OS through the years and ALL have been worse on security then windows was and still is.
They could close all these backdoors any time they want. But they make more money leaving them in and creating more new ones . The same small group of people who invest to the point of control in OS software also invest in all the Antiverus and privacy protection software . And you know companys if it puts an extra fifty cents in there pocket, they don't care how many peoples lives are ruined. Literaly the only thing you can do is to boycott any company you catch spying on you and make sure to post what you know on the net as a warning for others.

Post 27 of 34

Windows addon for MS-DOS 6.22

by NeBot - 12/25/04 8:53 PM In reply to: Theres no such thing as privacy on the net by Grigster

Grigster:

You really make me feel old with that remark. I remember installing the brand new version of MS-Dos 3.0 and Windows 1.0 on top of it so I had something that now would be called DosShell.

Post 28 of 34

Generic OS ??

by johnmccollim - 12/24/04 9:27 AM In reply to: Generic OS Question. by Ugg

I was under the impression the spyware came from the computer makers. Everytime i built my own system using win 98, and a motherboard drivers disk i never ran into preinstalled spyware. But working on Compaq & HP models wich use a restore disk {OS, motherbord drivers, with company logo's etc.) i ran into the spyware. .... I would wait for windows Longhorn to be released in 2005. Last of all run spyware removers such as spybot & ad aware. (free dowload from this site).

Post 29 of 34

No Modem No Backdoor

by billyrferrell - 12/24/04 9:37 AM In reply to: Generic OS Question. by Ugg

All operating system [OS] have built in spyware (Backdoor) to procect the their software from attacks or problem & bugs that you may be haveing with it. So that thay can update their software.
You say that you have Windows ME it time to move on to Windows XP.
But remanber that operating system troubleshoot a computer bugs for problem that you are have and ask to send the necessary information to MSN.
No Modem No Backdoor.

Post 30 of 34

Yep.

by Ugg - 12/27/04 5:17 AM In reply to: No Modem No Backdoor by billyrferrell

billyrferrell:

Yep, it is time to move on from ME. I just don't like the idea of someone getting into my machine & snoop around. But if ya stop & think about it, these people/compaines actually want your machine to run smoothly, so they can compile all your info with no problems. It's just like if your phone was tapped, your connection will usually be crystal clear.

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