Community Newsletter: Q&A: 9/03/2004 Gigs missing from my new 80GB hard drive
- 9/2/04 4:39 PM
Re: 9/03/2004 Gigs missing from my new 80GB hard drive
by sillygeek - 9/3/04 12:33 PM In reply to: 9/03/2004 Gigs missing from my new 80GB hard drive by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
What type of HDD did you buy? If its a Maxtor you will need to run the Maxtor install software first to format the drive and to size it. Than after you formatted it with the Maxtor program, go ahead and format it again using your windows format program. I ran into a similar problem installing a 200GB HDD, only difference I am running Win XP.
Re: 9/03/2004 Gigs missing from my new 80GB hard drive
by hyperbole123 - 9/3/04 1:43 PM In reply to: 9/03/2004 Gigs missing from my new 80GB hard drive by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I have the same problem, but I already updated my bios(AO5 to AO6), I use XP Pro, and have switched the jumpers from slave to CS. I have a Maxtor 60 GB and a WD 30 GB that came with the Dell (thats right-Dell), and it won't read the Maxtor as a 60, it reads it as a 30. Any tips?
TRY THIS!!!
by chikmag777 - 9/3/04 2:31 PM In reply to: 9/03/2004 Gigs missing from my new 80GB hard drive by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Well, considering the previous drive was 40GB and it's currently only seeing 40GB (hmm), you might want to have the BIOS re-recognize the new drive. (i.e. Go into your BIOS Setup and select the hardrive which is sometimes called 'User', but definitely will have numbers for the cylinders, heads, and sectors which denotes a harddrive. Change it to 'Auto' and let the BIOS detect the new 80GB drive.) This seems like the simplest task to try first.
Re: 9/03/2004 Gigs missing from my new 80GB hard drive
by dericlee - 9/3/04 2:43 PM In reply to: 9/03/2004 Gigs missing from my new 80GB hard drive by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
The answer may be simpler than any of the above; I notice that Joe never said what steps he had followed in replacing his old 40 gig. Coincidentally...once the DOS partition is taken into account...that 40 gigs is "less than half of its capacity" when compared to the new 80 gig.
It's (with some main-boards, anyway) essential to TELL your computer that you have changed hard-drives! In most versions of BIOS (particularly AMIBIOS) this is accomplished by entering SETUP, (usually accomplished by holding down the 'Delete' key during boot-up) selecting STANDARD CMOS SETUP from the enu, then pressing the F3 key, thus directing the mainboard to automatically detect all drives. This procedure may vary in different BIOS versions, but the directions in SETUP are pretty clear and are there onscreen to follow.
You should, at this point, see the numbers change to reflect the new drive.
Re: 9/03/2004 Gigs missing from my new 80GB hard drive
by DutchEagle - 9/3/04 3:23 PM In reply to: 9/03/2004 Gigs missing from my new 80GB hard drive by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I don't know what make the HD is but most HD's must be installed with a factory tool to format and or partioning it. I have a maxtor and if i don't format it with their tool it won't be recognized as an 80GB harddisk!
Hope to have helped!
Re: 9/03/2004 Gigs missing from my new 80GB hard drive
by AzraelExael - 9/3/04 4:23 PM In reply to: 9/03/2004 Gigs missing from my new 80GB hard drive by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Michael, I think that the solution to your problem is simple. Everyone here agrees that Windows ME is not a very good OS. I fixed the same problem in my computer by doing the following:
1 - Change your OS to Windows 2000. If you don’t like Win2k you can change to
Win XP.
2 – Leave your 40GB alone, use it for your OS and all your programs.
3 - Install the 80GB as a storage drive, put all your files in it.
4 –I ordered the latest BIOS from SuperMicro and changed the chip. It’s much easier then flushing the BIOS. Although, flushing the BIOS is not that complicated, if you follow the instructions to the letter.
My computer had an older BIOS that did not recognize the entire hard drive; once the BIOS were updated I had no problem.
Hope this helps.
AzraelExael
Re: 40GB HDD working, but 80GB HDD does not show full size
by digitalchaos - 9/3/04 5:40 PM In reply to: 9/03/2004 Gigs missing from my new 80GB hard drive by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
First of, this is my first post here:
My name is digitalchaos
On with the post:
1) Who is the manufacturer of the drive?
1a) Are the 40G and 80G Hard Drive made
by the same company?
2) What is the model number or give any more
information about the drives them selves
ie (cylinders, heads, sectors)
3) What type of bios do you have? (Who makes it?)
Does the bios support LBA (48-bit, etc)
5) I guess, you are running windows ME on a 1.4GHz P4
6) Who makes you motherboard?
7) Give all the details about you system
(it's hardware, bios -- motherboard, etc)
(Please be explict with this)
Re: 9/03/2004 Gigs missing from my new 80GB hard drive
by jerryd1234 - 9/3/04 7:44 PM In reply to: 9/03/2004 Gigs missing from my new 80GB hard drive by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Did you use a shareware program to copy the data from your 40gb drive to your new 80gb drive? Every shareware program I know of allows you to copy from the old drive to the new, but does not allow you to re-size the new drive. In other words, your new 80gb drive still looks exactly like your old 40gb drive. If you register (purchase) the software, it will then work fine.
Re: 9/03/2004 Gigs missing from my new 80GB hard drive
by marius - 9/4/04 12:18 AM In reply to: 9/03/2004 Gigs missing from my new 80GB hard drive by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I think your solution may be here in what Microsoft Knowledge Base Article - 263044 describes as follows :
When you use Fdisk.exe to partition a hard disk that is larger than 64 GB (64 gigabytes, or 68,719,476,736 bytes) in size, Fdisk does not report the correct size of the hard disk.
The size that Fdisk reports is the full size of the hard disk minus 64 GB. For example, if the physical drive is 70.3 GB (75,484,122,112 bytes) in size, Fdisk reports the drive as being 6.3 GB (6,764,579,840 bytes) in size.
The reason for this is that Fdisk uses some 16-bit values internally to calculate the size of the drive. Some of these variables overflow when the drive size is equal to or larger than 64 GB.
I experienced the same problem (on Win98), but I have found that the fdisk.exe file on the ME CD was able to solve it. Maybe your drive was fdisk'ed on a Win98 PC?
Otherwise, get the fdisk hotfix from MS at http://download.microsoft.com/download/Win98/Update/8266R/W98/EN-US/263044USA8.EXE
MS also mentions that this hotfix is not designed for 48-bit logical block addressing (LBA) hard disks or larger than 137GB drives.
Good luck.
Re: 9/03/2004 Gigs missing from my new 80GB hard drive
by Brolga - 9/4/04 3:59 AM In reply to: 9/03/2004 Gigs missing from my new 80GB hard drive by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I have had exactly the same problem and have tried all those suggestions that are already posted, but to no avail.
The only way I found to overcome this problem was to start computer using a Win ME startup disk then go to the FDISK option, and format the hard drive there.
This is the only way to overcome this problem, as only Win ME can read hard drives of this size. Bye
Re: 9/03/2004 Gigs missing from my new 80GB hard drive
by whatever89 - 9/4/04 9:10 AM In reply to: 9/03/2004 Gigs missing from my new 80GB hard drive by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
hi, it could be, that the missing capacity is not really missing. use the following, to ensure, that the 80 ( in real mostly only 70) Gigs are not really missing:
1) fdisk ,option 4( drive details)
2) open the bios setup, and have a look at what the bios is telling about your hard drive.
i got much more suggestions,but ill leave them for now.
if you have the msn messenger,i can log on to your computer using netmeeting f.e. and i hopefully get your problem solved, i am used to such kind of problems. here is my msn account: amr_saadani@hotmail.com,send me an email, telling me when youre online, and ill try to be on at that time, to help you.
best wishes
Amre
Re: 9/03/2004 Gigs missing from my new 80GB hard drive
by bowtiez - 9/4/04 4:44 PM In reply to: 9/03/2004 Gigs missing from my new 80GB hard drive by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Another solution may be that Mike may have used a Program like take two to back up his 40 gig and used that cd to load his operating system onto the 80 gig . if he did the program will partotion and format the 80 to match the original. The way to find out is to run fdisk and check partitions. It will show usage and probably show 50 or less%. If so re fdisk the 80 gig and reformat it by it self so it restores the 80 gig partition. Hook up 40 gig as master and 80 gig as slave and use a program like ghost to copy over only info.After unhook 40 set 80 as master or alone according to your setup and you should be good to go.
Bill
Re: 9/03/2004 Gigs missing from my new 80GB hard drive
by Quang D - 9/5/04 6:23 PM In reply to: 9/03/2004 Gigs missing from my new 80GB hard drive by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I'd like to follow on from Joe M's post. I'm not sure if anyone has written in about this yet, but Windows ME runs natively on the FAT32 file system which will only support partition sizes of 32GB or less. Using the NTFS file system with Win2K of XP will sort out this issue, but the immediate solution under WinME would be to separate the disk into partitions on 32GB or less. Hope this helps...
Re: 9/03/2004 Gigs missing from my new 80GB hard drive
by royc - 9/5/04 10:30 PM In reply to: Re: 9/03/2004 Gigs missing from my new 80GB hard drive by Quang DThe FAT32 file system will only support partition sizes of 32GB or less.
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I've seen this several times. And it is not true.
I set up a 60 GB drive running 98SE with 1 partition because the client did not want to worry about 'Drive letters'. I tried to tell him that 98 would take care of it but said NO.
And if you have a system setup with a Big partition you don't need to Fdisk, reformat and reinstall the OS. Just get 'PRESIZER' and change the size of the 'C:' to 30 GB OR 8 GB or what ever you want then use FDISK to create an extended partition and the logical drives then format the new drives and go from there. The system will boot to whatever OS you had on it since you didn't change anything on the boot sector or 'C:' except change it's size.
BTW Please read the docs in PRESIZER, because you are working with the lowest level of the drive. But don't let that stop you, I've been using it for at least 8 years, and it's never done anything bad. If it gives you a warning or an error message STOP, EXIT the program and re-read the docs then decide if you want to continue or NOT.
Also as per the docs don't worry about power failures or any thing like that. Even your little brother pushing the reset button. It will pick up right were it was stopped.
One other thing, I always run it from a floppy.
I would suggest you do the same. 
You can get it from http://zeleps.com
It's freeware so if you can't find it let me know and I'll put it on my website.
Re: 9/03/2004 Gigs missing from my new 80GB hard drive
by BluesRenegade - 9/6/04 6:22 AM In reply to: 9/03/2004 Gigs missing from my new 80GB hard drive by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Run FDISK and see what size partition it wants to set up. Instead of a fixed number, enter 100%. Make SURE you enter it as a percentage--include the (%) symbol!
BluesRenegade@hotmail.com
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