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Linux: Linux Challenge.... !

by R_Head - 10/31/09 9:27 PM
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Linux Challenge.... !

by R_Head - 10/31/09 9:27 PM

Pick any live distro, any. I suggest Mandriva One, Knoppix or PCLOS. Download it and burn a disc. Run it from a DVC/CD ROM and pick the person that knows less about computers. Let them try Windows and report back.

On my experience, I took my back then 10 year old kid and I had a dual boot system, he learned and liked Linux better than Windows. He said was easier to get around and to use. On his opinion, he said that Windows was a mess and hard to find the programs that he liked.

The conditions are, a person that does not know jack about computer (just computer illiterate). Do not pick someone that used or uses a Windows system, that will ruin the experiment. Little kids are best, since they do not know any better.

Post 2 of 34

This is a good idea

by Porch-a-Geese - 11/1/09 3:35 PM In reply to: Linux Challenge.... ! by R_Head

Exposure to more than one system and comparison of performance is what the user needs to see. Don't skew results by limiting the users' exposure. This will work with an older person who is willing to learn a new system.

Post 3 of 34

Yea..

by FrankQC - 11/2/09 7:12 AM In reply to: This is a good idea by Porch-a-Geese

Debian Live is my favourite :D

Post 4 of 34

Hard to get family convinced

by linuxroadwarrior - 11/14/09 10:08 AM In reply to: Linux Challenge.... ! by R_Head

We've been using MS Windows (98-VISTA) for years.... I recently became a Linux convert, but nobody wants to make the switch to Linux Mint.... Any advice?

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Just put Ubuntu on the computer or get your own.

by FrankQC - 11/14/09 10:15 AM In reply to: Hard to get family convinced by linuxroadwarrior

you could tell them what the advantages are of having a Linux computer..

Post 6 of 34

tell me the advantages...

by dansar99 - 11/14/09 5:54 PM In reply to: Just put Ubuntu on the computer or get your own. by FrankQC

I have a dual boot XP and ubuntu 9.10. I can do anything easier on XP than Karmic. I have learned to use some of the pre-installed programs like listening to streaming radio but needed help. I tried getting sea monkey browser from ubuntu software center. First window advises to upgrade. . That's where the fun began. I managed to get a folder on my desktop but no icon to open the browser. In XP its much simpler to update. Ubuntu is NOT easy! Of course, I am 69 yrs old so a 10 yr old would probably find it easier. LOL ANYWAY..the price is right and I know if XP gets corrupted (lost my XP disk ) I still can get my email and surf the web with Ubuntu. Dan

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Well my advantages...

by FrankQC - 11/14/09 6:03 PM In reply to: tell me the advantages... by dansar99

My main advantage is that you don't always need to reboot after updates.. You usually only need to update after kernel upgrades. It runs better on older computers -- Meaning you don't need to have fast computers.

Graphically, I find Ubuntu is much more capable of displaying better visuals (i.e. via compiz engine).

I find, personally, Ubuntu to be more polished, and more stable than Windows (Vista, anyways..) Since Ubuntu doesn't use a lot of resources compared to Windows you can utilise your computer's hardware a little more.

Ubuntu is a small learning curve -- As is anything new you're learning. It took me a few days to get used to it, but then again when I was learning it I went straight to the command line... so updating became very easy and efficient (as were installing, removing, etc).

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based on personal experience

by jonah jones Moderator - 11/14/09 10:20 AM In reply to: Linux Challenge.... ! by R_Head

i don't think so...

would your "average computer illiterate 10 year old" know how to use a PC, run XP to surf to Google, formulate a question that will sift out non-related replies download a list of cheat codes and find one that will run an "out of the box" (so to speak) version of KNoppix that is thought of as 'most reliable and very user friendly'?


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Post 9 of 34

based on personal experience, maybe?

by Porch-a-Geese - 11/14/09 11:13 AM In reply to: based on personal experience by jonah jones Moderator

Average illiterate use.
For using a PC? Yes. The human animal learns from mimicry. If the person can read, they will find what they are looking for. Scratch this doubt out.
Run XP to surf google? If the person can turn on a switch and read, and ask questions, then the answer is , "Yes," once again.
Formulate a question? See the above answers. Very few animals with sight are not able to differentiate between mass, number, and appearance.
Run Out-of-the-box Knoppix? can they read, write, ask questions? probably. Can they use some other means such as phone or cell phone to contact a friend who could help them? Sure.
Could the average person with average intelligence from 4 to 124 runa computer given the right circumstances? Yes.

Do you know what you are talking about? No.

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i can see it now

by jonah jones Moderator - 11/14/09 12:03 PM In reply to: based on personal experience, maybe? by Porch-a-Geese

10 yr old calls his buddy (after he downloads an iso file and burns it to a CD) and says "hey Joey, what's the difference between knoppix desktop=fluxbox|gnome|icewm and knoppix desktop=kde|lg3d|larswm? do you think i should try knoppix xmodule=ati|fbdev|i810|mga instead of knoppix xmodule=nv|radeon|savage|s3?"

or "do you think xmodule=ati|radeon|fbdev|vesa|savage|s3|nv|i810|mga|svga|tseng will help?"

can you imagine the uproar if M'soft were to give a list of 50 licence keys with every OS install disc and say "here, one of these will get you up and running"

fact: it's not user friendly (even to someone who remembers the difference between cd.. and cd\)

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Post 11 of 34

That's humorous

by Porch-a-Geese - 11/14/09 3:53 PM In reply to: i can see it now by jonah jones Moderator

At 10, I was reading Morte de Arthur, beowulf, studying typhoid mary and gynecology.

You must have been in the remedial classes.

Post 12 of 34

that explains where your head is today

by jonah jones Moderator - 11/14/09 6:30 PM In reply to: That's humorous by Porch-a-Geese

#At 10, I was....studying typhoid mary and gynecology.#


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At 6 my sister bacame Linux user

by GODhack - 11/15/09 5:34 AM In reply to: that explains where your head is today by jonah jones Moderator

At 6 my sister became Linux user, at 4 Linux was still too hard to use.

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It's located on my neck

by Porch-a-Geese - 11/15/09 9:28 PM In reply to: that explains where your head is today by jonah jones Moderator

You failed health class, didn't you?

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I know...

by R_Head - 11/15/09 4:24 PM In reply to: That's humorous by Porch-a-Geese

Some people has more abilities than others, but some people does not like/refuse/or feels intimidating from learning a new trick or just does not like to feel "illiterate" when using a system.

The point that I am making is that we are used to one way and when some different comes in, is all the sudden difficult to learn.

I still saying, Linux is easy but people seems to approach it like a MS system.

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