Windows XP: Poll: Do you plan to install Windows 7?
- 11/13/09 4:33 PM
Another option: Run Linux on computers with outdated Windows
by frappyjohn - 10/24/09 12:42 PM In reply to: Poll: Do you plan to install Windows 7? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
As I cycle through computers, I find it useful to install Linux on the ones whose Windows version is no longer current. That way I have an up-to-date system running on each box. Linux is also more fun since there is so much open source software available for it that I can always be learning something new (without having to pay a few hundred dollars for the privilege). I'll always have to have at least one Windows box, but the rest run Linux.
Windows 7 all the way
by David_G. - 10/24/09 3:03 PM In reply to: Poll: Do you plan to install Windows 7? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I loved windows Vista after XP, for how everything was placed and what it looked like, but Windows 7 is even better, for one single reason: The bottom (dock) bar.
windows 7
by jean harrington - 10/24/09 5:33 PM In reply to: Poll: Do you plan to install Windows 7? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I gave just bought a XP box, running 64-bit.My friend had just bought a 32-bit XP.His was commercial, not a downgrade.I would never 'upgrade' to 7,unless my computer-guy told me of some advantage.He been testing beta 7,and so far he says "no".
Sticking with XP; at least for awhile
by Lotus14 - 10/24/09 6:49 PM In reply to: Poll: Do you plan to install Windows 7? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I haven't looked up what the hardware requirements for 7 might be. I also can say the same for software.
I use CAD, and one of my packages is older, so I may not upgrade so I can keep using the old software. I may wait to upgrade to a whole new machine, and keep the existing one for CAD only.
Also, I had made the mistake up upgrading to Vista on my desktop, and buying a laptop with Vista pre-installed; it was such a mess, I reverted back to XP Pro, and did the fixes to convert the laptop too.
I think I'll sit for awhile until I'm sure that 7 isn't going to be more of the same. This reminds me of the old MS-DOS days when you bought every other release.
Bought sufficient powerfull hardware, so yesI did.
by FrenchyHey - 10/25/09 11:19 AM In reply to: Poll: Do you plan to install Windows 7? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Saving on cost of hardware as I built or upgrade my PC myself (it so easy), from HP based computer PC to Acer, to plain Vanila Clone built by me with top quality component but not over the top in order to get them all under $1500.00 including top quality monitor from HP monitor to DCDi by Faroudja.
All our PC have at least 3 GB or RAM all are at least Dual Core or Quad Core and all are 64 bits capable PC from the get go and at least all have one or more HD of 500GB for storage and they range from XP home to Vista Home Premium.
All getting the upgrade to Win 7 Pro as we decided we wanted the remote access PC included without further upgrade and other usefull feature to us as well, daughter now learning PC programation altought she is still in her enfancy when it come to PC building and repair (funny when you think that most teanager that I do know don't know the inner working of their MAC or PC but are so good at onlines gaming, punn intended lol, I must admit that if they want a games very bad they become expert to make it work on any kind of OS if they have too lol.
So the need create the reason to learn, I guess it is why Mac only need to know how to turn it on 
just kidding.
I am sure MAC would cause me less grief but knowing my kids relationship about their game any computer is as good as another as another as long as it could play their latest games if not well it is not good anymore.
No point for me to pay twice to be told in 2 to 3 years life span that they want a new computer Mac or PC.
At least this time they did the hassle to go trough the updrade themself and yes now if they do need a hardware upgrade I force them to read and present a business case report to me and only when I am convice of the cost value they do it by themself and pay half of it. Best way to cooldown their wishes lol.
All our PC have now Win 7 Pro x 4 PC 64 bits upgrade from Vista/XP home premium and are happy of their result and progress and yes my son is already playing his old games made for XP one day after his install, mind you I did make sure he did is own work first lol. Export backup and import altough quite easy as he did use the export feature built in the OS.
Anyway my own experience wasn't bad with Vista because we did not compromise on the hardware for any of our PCs, meaning good component at first and less bell and wistle half of the cost was bear by my kids (they need to learn money does not grow on tree).
Going to give the older ATI PCIe Video Card to my less fortunate sister, that is why I find it so great with PC anything and everything could be recycled, even combined to make almost a new PC from Linux to MS to none profit group or less fortunate friends and relative.
Win7? Well, yes and no.
by dzjs7 - 10/25/09 11:14 PM In reply to: Poll: Do you plan to install Windows 7? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I have 3 computers 2 desktops and 1 laptop. The desktops CAN run Win7 but do not do so very well (I've been running the RC on the better of the two). Mainly I lack processor power on these two for Win7 to run well so they will remain on XP. The laptop has Vista and it will be upgraded. Too many issues with Vista, some of them annoyinly random. I got the laptop about the same time as I starting running the RC on the one desktop and once I got all of the latest drivers and tweaked the settings it has run better than Vista(albeit it is slower, which typical of a 7 year old computer).
Changing platforms
by purplefit - 10/26/09 7:05 AM In reply to: Poll: Do you plan to install Windows 7? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
No plans to upgrade to Windows 7. A colleague is having continuous problems/errors and malfunctions, having been requested to upgrade/change from XP to Vista to bring her in line with the rest of the office computers. Can anyone provide any ideas on how to ensure that these issues are eradicated? Is there an established method for installing the VISTA platform when XP has been originally installed (without losing any of her vital office files and applications etc?
A clean catch, merely, Install the Operating System
by 3JGProductions - 10/26/09 11:16 AM In reply to: Changing platforms by purplefitSave Office files to disc or to any external hard drive and re-install a clean fresh copy, it will erase all traces of XP. Before you begin go to Microsoft dowload site and install the Windows Vista Upgrade Analyzer. This downlaod will tell you what programs are compatible from XP. Your friend might need an update to its Office Suite or .Netframework update to Vista from XP. Bear in mind, nothing is automatic. Compatability issues arouse when you change Operating Systems. That is the purpose of the Windows Vista analyzer, likewise, with XP to Windows 7. Now, bear in mind Microsoft will stop support fro XP in 2010 and later Vista 2012, it may seen distant, but its at hand. Think about it! Now I what just mentioned will work, however, some that knows how, must do it correctly.
Microsoft will end support for Windows XP in 2010.
by 3JGProductions - 10/26/09 8:31 AM In reply to: Poll: Do you plan to install Windows 7? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I subcribe to a trade magazine (PC World), since, 2000, also articles are available on-line at pc.world.com. I read an article in June of 2008, that stipulated the dis-continuance of support for XP from the Microsoft Update site. With the recent launch of Windows 7, the phase out of support for XP is close. What this mean to me is, all updates will cease soon, rendering XP obsolete. Understand the importance of updates, when you re-install Windows XP no updates will be available to bring the system to SP2, SP3, which are nothing more than another version of XP or Upgrade. For those earlier XP users (2003), from SP1 to SP2/3. With no updates patches and fixes no longer exist. Microsoft will be forcing the XP faithful, to let go. For that reason I am now going begin my study of Windows 7, and eventually perform the upgrade on three home computers, priced at $150. I held out, since, Windows Vista introduction in 2007. Thru research, I am convinced its time to let go of OLD FAITHFUL Windows XP, was a dam good Operating Systems. I believe Windows 7 is nothing more than Windows XP SP4 and SP5, with a touch of Windows Vista.
Linux is continuously updated and costs nothing
by frappyjohn - 10/26/09 9:12 AM In reply to: Microsoft will end support for Windows XP in 2010. by 3JGProductionsThe time to let go of Windows XP may be the time to adopt Linux. It costs nothing, is less susceptible to viruses and trojans, and is a lot more fun than proprietary operating systems!
"Linux is continuously updated and cost nothing"
by 3JGProductions - 10/27/09 7:02 AM In reply to: Linux is continuously updated and costs nothing by frappyjohnTo" frappyjohn: One of my favorite quotes are, "What constitute an emergency on your part, does not, constitute an emergency on mine". Tried to ignore the spill you gave on LINUS OPERATING SYSTEM, expecting, better from Microsoft. This forum is great to hear what others are doing. I may try it. Thanks!
that may be true
by jonah jones - 10/27/09 8:02 AM
In reply to: Linux is continuously updated and costs nothing by frappyjohn
but it has a learning curve the size of my sons appetite
M'soft/Windows may be a PITA, but they are, IMO, user friendly compared to Linux
jonah
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Hi 3JGProductions
by FrenchyHey - 10/26/09 6:43 PM In reply to: Microsoft will end support for Windows XP in 2010. by 3JGProductionsLinux is ok to great depending of what you intend to do and how must you are willing to re learn also, Win 7 is great when it come to Windows world.
Ok here my own experience, 64 bits run my 32 bits MS Office Pro Suite 2007 just fine, meaning is work great, I lost one component and I don't know the benefice of Visio as I never used it prior on Vista or XP anyway, Excell, Access, World, Power Point, Outlook all working great Palm Conduit access are working do their sync, old but it is working on a 64 bits and that mean something to me.
Games; Crysis work just great Call of Duty modern warfare great also, BF2, under 64 bits also and btw Crysis games is the benchmark right now for how your PC will support demanding games if your computer could run Crysis w/o problems well your PC will handle Win 7 like it is just a breaze,
Mind you I don't own any crapy hardware here, meaning I know the in and out of all my 4 PC and Server and all my PC have twice the OS minimum requirement for Vista or Win 7 that include the 64 bits for the RAM my personal desktop have 4 GB Ram and if every the motherboard die on me after the 3 years warranty I just put it out and put a new one but as it is an Asus it probably endure the life expectency of Win 7 and more.
All our family PC have migrated to Win 7 Pro and my best benchmark are wife and family approval for satisfaction and I could assure you that you it work just plain and simple on a good PC after all PC has been driven by the constant increase of MS OS in power and games are also a constant driven force in the market.
No home owner need a one GB Video card for only watching video, but their prices are dropping constantly as we speak a top of the line cost almost half this year and will continue to go down and they handle Crysis w/o problems.
If your computer meet and exceed minimum requirement, my suggestion is time 2 that minimum requirement as it was same for XP at beginning follow by Vista = requirement time 2.
Apple is same it will run but prior to snow it will fly on a Power PC.
So that constant truth remain in evey OS now matter wich one.
If you only do email and surfing the internet a full integrated Motherboard with graphic onboard will do the trick just make sure you have PCIe for eventual needed Video Card for games if wanted one or two PCI slot free for maybe a TV Tuner later (Onboard TV Tuner are always better as they do not the CPU computation for decoding and encoding, ATI TV tuner will be a good example of that, other do the same also, just make sure they specify it and that they are compatible Vista or better Win 7, My actual ATI TV tuner 500 series just work great under Win 7 64 bits and ATI are prompt to release and support for their recent hardware any new MS OS).
Other very good at support their hardware regarding drivers are the following; Brother, Logitech for example, the funny thing is that MS own hardware are not supported when it come to a new OS, well this have been my own experience regarding MS Sidewinder Josystick and games pad built for 98 not supported after that, not even in XP.
Very good Motherboard are the none generic motherboard for drivers support, i.e. Asus, Gigabyte, MSI.
Dell could be very problematic if needed to upgrade one other failling part of their hardware as they are using proprietary solution that make their hardware not compatible with the rest of the industry, i.e their motherboard use a lot of not industry standard when it come to simple connection.
HP have sometime quality issue, Gateway also; a lot of Gateway refurbish PC System offer at Major retailer online are a good sign that a quality problems exist with that manufacturer..
Anyway Win 7 is not an upgrade XP SP4, you could argue it is Vista donne right but certainly not XP, especialy the 64 bits edition of Win 7, actualy Win 7 and 2008 Server RC2 share the same kernel and drivers fondation, so technically your PC could become a server without major modification if meeting the requirement spec.
All I know by my own experience for the last 8 month that Win 7 have worked great for me and family also.
If I ever go Apple it will be a desktop configuration as I learn I need free access to the hardware to save money in the long run, a good PC technicien will easy double the cost of my original purchase on any kind of hardware and in my case not worth the spending when it is only one screw for a video card and side panel and they never install me the latest drives and most of the time let windows OS install a generic drivers instead, so 10 to 15 min work could represent 100 to 150 dollars without any additional benefits to me and even less performance as I will be required to uninstall the software that is most of the time not updated also and drivers.
LINUX v. Win7 & Others
by 3JGProductions - 10/27/09 12:20 AM In reply to: Hi 3JGProductions by FrenchyHeyThanks FrenchyHey, Obsorbed your spin on Linux especially the "64 bits run my 32 bits MS Office Office Pro Suite" and I have not installed Win7 yet. This thread is under Review, by, 3JG Productions. The fact about heavy gaming runs smoothly, ie, Benchmark Test. I have heavy gamers too! Also that good mothersboards are best not supported by programmed generic drivers. Change brings another round of learning. Sometime I am impatient, with the excessive Tech bits out-there, and may just settle for the programmed method, however, I have archived this, and thanks for this Tech informative bit.
Re Thanks
by FrenchyHey - 10/27/09 3:20 PM In reply to: LINUX v. Win7 & Others by 3JGProductionsYou are most welcome.
Glad this could help you to sort it out.
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