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Windows XP: Poll: Do you plan to install Windows 7?
- 11/13/09 4:33 PM
XP PRO
by dragon5569 - 10/24/09 5:14 AM In reply to: Poll: Do you plan to install Windows 7? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
The first turn off regarding WIN 7 was reading more than several posts, was that I would be better off just buying a new computer with WIN 7 already installed on it. Hey MS, can you spell recession/depression ?
The second turn off was if I wanted to upgrade from XP PRO to WIN 7 there was no doubt that I was going to have (based on reviews of WIN 7)hardware issues, along with the cost of upgrading to compatable hardware.
I was able to reach my decision on WIN 7 by asking myself if this was something I really needed or just something I wanted because it was new and had more bells & whistles than XP PRO.?
I spend 5 to 8 hours a day on my computer, reading articles,streaming movies,downloading music,making purchases, email, playing games and so on and XP PRO does everything I need and does it very well, so I'll stick with XP PRO until my computer or I go to that great data base in the sky.
Do I plan to install Windows 7?
by Richard P Cantlay - 10/24/09 5:24 AM In reply to: Poll: Do you plan to install Windows 7? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I just built a non-OEM computer and installed Windows Vista Home Premium and recently updated to service pack 2. Last I heard Win 7 was still in Beta version. I never install any beta software. Plus I am a firm user of tried and tested free software and I just spent a bunddle on this build up. So unless Microsoft offers a final version of Win 7, not beta, and at a price I can afford, I will keep using Vista. Hell I still had XP 10 months ago before I built my latest tower. I am still enjoying the increased performance in Vista over XP. I will most likely keep using Vista until it eventually goes the way of all previous OS's. I still live by the phrase: "If it still works, don't fix it".
Just Say No
by karunatwo - 10/24/09 5:33 AM In reply to: Poll: Do you plan to install Windows 7? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Why pay $119 to upgrade to another operating system? Vista users have been unhappy for a long time with this operating system and should have been given a free upgrade. I'll upgrade when I buy my next computer.
Windows 7 Upgrade
by RobDale43 - 10/24/09 5:35 AM In reply to: Poll: Do you plan to install Windows 7? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Hi Steve:
This is in reply to your excellent article October 23, 2009 in our Simcoe Reformer. Your article on Windows 7 was A plus but Microsoft once again was not. I have two laptops with vista on and one desktop with xp pro. I could not install windows 7 on my laptop with vista ultimate because I bought windows 7 pro. I installed it on my desk top and it was easy. Having said that and being all excited. This would all end quickly when we tried to print something. I have 2 HP laser jet 1012 printers attached. One is to my xp pro desk top and the other to my vista laptop. Windows 7 does not recognize the drivers on these HP printers. There is no update to these drivers if ever at this time. Here we go again, Microsoft new software $300.00 and opps new or fairly new printer to work with Windows 7 . Does Microsoft care or is it just about them and (Fxxxxx) the other manufacturers. Some businesses will have to replace maybe 6 to 10 printers and maybe their fax machine. Come Microsoft gives a break, you (Sxxxxxxx) us on vista and no break with the upgrade. Maybe apple can start doing our businesses. No viruses either.
Bob
I have just installed
Stick with XP for Now
by JoanEdington - 10/24/09 5:48 AM In reply to: Poll: Do you plan to install Windows 7? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I think the statistics to date of these options says it all. The vast majority are dis-illusioned Vista users who are going to do anything to get rid of it ASAP. Since XP is pretty stable, does what most folk want without the pretty-pretty Vista decorations, I will stick with it until Win 7 passes muster. From what I've heard so far I expect I will update some time next year. I will certainly skip Vista.
Re: Do you plan to install Windows 7?
by Chisaiyama - 10/24/09 6:36 AM In reply to: Poll: Do you plan to install Windows 7? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Yes, I have been involved in the beta testing and the RC testing and I have loved every minute of it. I have been a staunch follower of XP almost from it's inception. I have been involved with computers since the true core memory days and have seen every stage of development. I have been a PC fan since the original IBM models came out. I have seen Microsoft put out some really awful OS releases just to keep up with an Apple release (DOS 4.0 instantly comes to mind along with it's Windows counterpart ME) but I have to say they have truly done a good job of field testing 7.
I have an "older" laptop (heck anything more than 6 mos old is "Older") which I was told by the Vista Upgrade adviser couldn't be upgraded to that OS but it has been running the 7 Beta and RC7 just fine thank you! True there are some of the more esoteric features, available in 7-Ultimate that my machines hardware won't handle but I'm not ready to get rid of my old friend just yet so I will go along with the 7-Premium instead for it.
Just do the upgrade by the rules established by the manufacturer, don't try any "shortcuts" because you think you are an "eggspert" and the upgrade/install should go just fine.
I am a little annoyed that they didn't design the final product to include the RC7 as an upgradeable product instead of just Vista but what the hey, when I installed the Beta and the RC7 I had to do them as clean installs intead of upgrades so I have gotten the procedure down to a near science by now.
And yest it's true that MS has 8 in development already, because like Igor in the move Van Helsing, "It's what they do!". Bill Gates keeps his people busy constantly designing the next two operating systems as a rule. By the time one OS has been released they are well on their way to the next and the one after that at least at the conceptualization stage as well.
Personally I don't play the keep up game. I only change my OS when I see definite advantages to it, when the OS has features I truly like and can't emulate with the one I already have. Even after my wife and daughter acquired PCs with the Vista OS and liked it (overall at least), I didn't find it useful enough to want to change my laptop to get it. After installing the Beta and RC7 however I was instantly enamored of this new system. After comparing it to Vista I will agree that it is indeed an overhauled Vista but it is that overhauled that it the important keyword. This is Vista that works the way Vista was supposed to with the addition of many new features besides. Just as XP is what ME was supposed to be and more so 7 is what Vista was supposed to be and more.
For the average consumer they will see a marked improvement in the performance of their equipment. My wife has a PC with 4gb of Ram and a 2.8 Ghz dual core Intel processor on which she does a lot of media intensive work, it is a fast machine but even she was impressed with the Beta when she tried it.
I believe that most consumers will find the little extra effort needed to upgrade from XP will be worth the effort and for current Vista users it should be a nearly seamless, effortless upgrade path. As a caveat, any time you do a major software upgrade do a full backup first so you have a fall back point in case something does go wrong in the process. It can save a lot of hair pulling and foul language in the long run. My personal favorite is Acronis True Image but their are a lot of other great backup products available as well.
Good luck and happy computing!
Windows 7? No thanks
by switcher69 - 10/24/09 6:41 AM In reply to: Poll: Do you plan to install Windows 7? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Working in a support roll I had to keep my systems up to date in order to be aware of what my clients suffering. Basically I was forced into upgrades, but as previous versions of Windows were so crappy it was usually better to upgrade. At least I got new problems to keep me busy.
These days with everything revolving around the web the OS is not as critical to me. Also XP is actually the most stable and productive version of Windows up to date. It does everything I want and need and many of my clients are using it anyway so I feel no urge whatever to go through the pain and expense of yet another upgrade. Especially as it seems that the pain of going from XP to 7 seems even worse than usual.
Microsoft of course will use its dominant position to force developers away from XP so new releases of our favourite apps will gradually stop working, thus forcing the upgrade.
With a view toward this I have already dumped Office in favour of Open Office and have installed Linux on one of my systems.
You want 7? Good for you! I'll keep my money and move to Linux.
Actually I'm Torn
by Flatworm - 10/24/09 6:44 AM In reply to: Poll: Do you plan to install Windows 7? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I THINK I am going to upgrade from Vista, but really I'm torn. I LIKE Vista, and I think that most of the badmouthing of it originates from a sort of "sour grapes" thing where a lot of bloggers fashioned themselves as gurus with XP and Vista changed enough stuff around that the little weenies couldn't pretend to be gurus anymore, so they decided to trash it. Groupthink set in and it became common knowledge that Vista was some sort of horrible thing.
There were other problems, mostly involving third-party peripheral drivers that were caused by lazy or stingy manufacturers, most notably and surprisingly HP, who didn't make the effort to support legacy hardware. But these had nothing to do with Vista itself, and indeed Microsoft gave third-party vendors more lead time before Vista's commercial release than anybody should ever have needed.
Also, a lot of people tried to install it on machines that didn't meet, or that just barely met, the minimum system requirements to run it. They were disappointed with the results and decided to blame Vista, although all new O/Ses have been designed for computers with greater capabilities than their predecessors since the Abacus 2.0 had more wires and more beads, and all those beads couldn't be installed on the fewer wires of old version 1.0. Ever try installing XP on a 386? It's analogous to what a lot of people tried to do with Vista.
But I was an early adapter of Vista back in 2006, and in all the time I have used it on my computer, a Core2 Duo E6600 machine with 2GB of RAM, it has never crashed, not even once. This is despite the fact that I put the thing through its paces constantly, doing movie editing, high-end graphics, and program compilations, often simultaneously while listening to music on WinAmp. I had high-availability Unix machines I administered at NASA that couldn't even approach that level of reliability (we rely instead on redundancy). XP certainly couldn't.
But Vista suffers from another "flaw," to wit: XP was actually good enough, the first GUI O/S from Microsoft that could make that claim. Remember how it was a good day if your Win98 machine would only crash once?
But Vista is WAY better than XP. After growing accustomed to Vista, going back to an XP machine (which I've still got a couple of) feels as clunky and frustrating as it used to feel when going back from XP to a 98 machine. When installed properly on a machine with the capacity for it, Vista is elegant, smooth, crisp, fast, and utterly, totally reliable.
The only reason I may upgrade is that I like to have the latest and best, and I am confident that 7 is actually an upgrade, albeit largely achieved by shunting off support for older, legacy software into a virtual XP environment instead of accommodating it natively. That's a bit of cleverness that I admire and something Microsoft seems to have forgotten that they did long ago starting with 98, allowing you to run things in a command prompt window.
Not brain surgery or rocket science!
by tjcher - 10/24/09 3:24 PM In reply to: Actually I'm Torn by FlatwormThis is better, this is just as good , this is no good, blah, blah, and more blah. As most discussions, pro-views vs. con-views. XP, Vista and Win 7 are all capable of filling the needs of 99% of computer users. For those that must have the latest gadgets with the most bells and whistles, go for it and get Win 7. But don't be surprised to find that Win 8 is probably right around the corner. Let's just keep buying all this stuff and keep the pockets of Microsoft overflowing with $$$$.
Why I'm not upgrading . . . yet
by zephyr99 - 10/24/09 7:35 AM In reply to: Poll: Do you plan to install Windows 7? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Yes, I do loathe Vista, and wish my newer systems had come loaded with XP. I've continued to experience compatibility issues with Vista and find the quirks irritating and time consuming. I no longer have access to the full features of my top-of-the line all-in-one color laser printer because of Vista, which I consider a typical crap Microsoft product.
At the same time, I have limited faith in any "promise" of a Microsoft offering . . . so I have no plans to immediately upgrade until I see sufficient assurance that any unintended bugs and errors--inevitable companions of a Microsoft delivery--have associated solutions and patches available. "Once burned, twice shy" doesn't begin to describe the Microsoft experience. Perhaps "always burned" would more accurately summarize our wary dance with the platform.
why install Windows 7
by adk66 - 10/24/09 8:28 AM In reply to: Poll: Do you plan to install Windows 7? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I'm a remnant of the previous generation.......
Been using windows at home and at work for 20 years.
How exciting when the computer does what you want it to but it is difficult for me to learn a new operating system.
I use vista home premium although i prefer XP, probably because i am more familiar with it.
i have heard numerous negative remarks about vista but never ever anything specific about why i should upgrade to windows 7!
.........Still waiting to hear what is so bad about vista
No Windows 7 for me now...
by bobbie46 - 10/24/09 8:31 AM In reply to: Poll: Do you plan to install Windows 7? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I never update to a new OS, until I'm convinced all the bugs have been worked out. I'm sticking with Vista for now; although I am keeping a close eye on "7" for the future, as I don't like Vista at all....too many compatibility issues for me.
"Upgrade" to Win7? I don't think so.
by mikeb5984 - 10/24/09 8:48 AM In reply to: Poll: Do you plan to install Windows 7? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Am I going to upgrade any of my systems from either XP Pro or Vista 32 and 64 to Win7? Not now, and not for at LEAST a year. If experience has taught us anything it is, all the Madison Ave hype aside, no Microsoft Operating System is EVER "ready" when they've unleashed it on the public.
This is a bit like flash updates for the BIOS. Would I flash an update to the BIOS just because a new one became available? Not hardly. Not unless the flash corrected a problem I am having.
Next, no system is giving me any problems. They all meet my performance requirements, even my old Compaq EVO D510 running Vista 32 on a P4 1.8 GHz procesor with only 1GB of RAM. It doesn't "do" aero, but it works just fine. Surprisingly, it runs a little better than it did with XP Pro. The only reason Vista is there was to test it. Office apps and email/web surfing are not bad at all considering the hardware. My experience is the WEI is a meaningless measure for performance. It does not appear to reconcile with hardware and software installed as a measure of what I see in terms of performance.
When I finally DID "upgrade" to Vista it was a huge disappointment. Not because I had problems. Vista has run very well (64 and 32) for me. It was a disappointment because after reading all the hype on that OS it turned out to be nothing much more than cosmetics. I think I may have achieved as much by installing Windowblinds. 99% of the functionality was still there and getting to things was/is not a lot different. I am underimpressed with the directory (ok, "folder") reorganization. I think that is totally unnecessary. Unlike a lot of people, I like aero and I like the Windows Flip feature. I use ALT-TAB a lot to nav between windows and Flip and the thumbnail previews on the taskbar make that easier. Easier is good. But would I upgrade from XP Pro to Vista to get aero and flip? Judge for yourself, the system I am using now and my principal work system are both running XP Pro.
Finally there is the issue of driver compatibility. Even though I waited a very long time to install Vista, I still had driver "issues". Fortunately, I was able to find the drivers I needed, a little more difficult with Vista 64. But I am not particulalry eager to inflict that on myself for the sake of running "the new OS". To me, that's a bit like stepping on your own foot....intentionally.
My feeling is, if it is not broken, don't "fix" it.
You are having a laugh
by rosiejim - 10/24/09 11:33 AM In reply to: "Upgrade" to Win7? I don't think so. by mikeb5984Bill and his missus ( melanie ? ) would only put my bleeding cash into good deeds somewhere , so NO to me updating to 7 . His conscience is pricking him as he reaches old age so he thinks being a philanthropist is going to gain him points on his way to wherever . I have got news for Bill Gates and his like . greedy b------ .
Get a big yacht like Mr Allen and sail away .......
I'll stick with XP
by harrywolf99 - 10/24/09 8:56 AM In reply to: Poll: Do you plan to install Windows 7? by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
I don't love XP, but it is working for my needs right now. So I will wait until I rteally needa new computer.
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