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Windows 7: Poll: Your expectations of the final release of Windows 7

by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator - 10/12/09 3:18 PM
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Post 31 of 57

Why Windows 7 will be great

by tmacke1 - 10/9/09 10:56 PM In reply to: Poll: Your expectations of the final release of Windows 7 by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Because it is an odd number! DOS 3.0 & DOS 5.0 were the most stable of their times. It logically follows that a version with 7.0 would be the next "stable" product from the big "M". So what if it happens to be Windows 7. It just took them a long time to get here.

Post 32 of 57

Does it Really Matter?

by catbr - 10/10/09 12:10 AM In reply to: Poll: Your expectations of the final release of Windows 7 by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Micro and the gang keep making these OSs to "improve" the internet experience,blah, blah, blah....
When they are really interested in improving the internet experience for all they can do one thing...STOP only asking end-users what they want to see.
The end-user friendly Vista was a delight for them...for techies it was a sleep-depriving nightmare. I guess that the 'Soft doesn't think that anyone uses anything with their computer except go on the Internet. No one prints, rips/burn ANy kind of media file or does anything else except use the 'Soft's software, so why would they insure that their products are compatible with any peripherals.
So...techies, charge $5 more per job for tech support (necessary for the extra headache remedy of your own choosing), save your money for a nice little Caribbean trip once all of the wrinkles have been ironed out(plan to include 2 extra days to catch up on all the sleep you may lose).

Post 33 of 57

If it ain't broke, don't fix it!

by artzy - 10/10/09 1:54 AM In reply to: Poll: Your expectations of the final release of Windows 7 by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I use my computer just to check my e-mail. When I went "surfing" years ago I suddenly was swamped with junk mail, trojans, and spam. It is not possible to control the e-mail system. It is being hacked from every corner of the earth. I expect that even this little contact will attract spam, but I'll risk it just to voice my opinion.

Post 34 of 57

Windows 7-----------Great Expectations!

by old george - 10/10/09 2:45 AM In reply to: Poll: Your expectations of the final release of Windows 7 by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Hi C-NET Folk,

Couldn't not reply to survey. As an aged person with limited computer experience, Windows 7 has been a real eyeopener. Having experienced XP melt downs more times than I wish to recall, it was a real pleasure to switch to 7, the system actually works WITH you. It worked right out of the box--------just right for me, but I suspect there are those out there who like to do battle with their systems .
7 suits me FINE.

G.B.

Post 35 of 57

Well, you're partially right

by rbsjrx - 10/10/09 3:20 AM In reply to: Windows 7-----------Great Expectations! by old george

You seem to be dead center of the Win7 target demographic. Like you, I hate having to "do battle" with my PC. Unfortunately, in my experience, "ding battle" is a way of life for users with Windows. Because of its antiquated and poorly designed file systems (which Win7 shares!), the performance of a Windows system can be counted on to degrade over time.Because of its unique use of the bizarre registry design, system corruption can be counted on to accumulate.

I've been using Windows since Win3.0 and I wouldn't rate any of them as particularly reliable. Win98, Win2k, and WinXP have been good in my experience, but each has ultimately crashed and required reinstallation after a period of time. Once it got past SP1 status, Vista was tolerable although a terrible resource hog.

In contrast, I run multiple machines running various versions of Linux and they're all rock-solid. Without spending a dime on additional software or laborious chores like defragmentation, registry cleanup, etc., each will keep running 24/7 until the hardware breaks.

Post 36 of 57

In the interest of full disclosure

by rbsjrx - 10/10/09 3:43 AM In reply to: Well, you're partially right by rbsjrx

I should add that although I'm also an "aged person", I don't have "limited computer experience". Until my recent retirement, I made my living as an embedded systems architect (if you don't know what that it, don't worry about it - few people do). I have written operating systems from scratch as well as used dozens more, so I'm well acquainted with the design issues and underlying technology. That's what irks me most about Windows - I know its design is flawed so it will never get much better without a major redesign.

Nothing in Win7 addresses Windows' fundamental flaws - NTFS, the registry, and limited internal security. Linux has a variety of available file systems - all more advanced than NTFS (released in 1993) or FAT32 (released in 1980). No other modern OS uses the registry design, and decades of user horror stories eloquently illustrate why not. More modern OSs don't allow user applications ot modify kernel modules as Windows does.

Post 37 of 57

Windows

by nrowe46 - 10/10/09 4:23 AM In reply to: Poll: Your expectations of the final release of Windows 7 by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

All versions of Windows suck so 7 will be no exception.

Post 38 of 57

Why my expectations are High for Windows7?

by jororich - 10/10/09 5:25 AM In reply to: Poll: Your expectations of the final release of Windows 7 by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Well! The message is GOOD much lighter on resources. It may not be much quicker by all accounts, but generally better all round PC.
For Laptops it will be a Dream come true, it will be quicker plus battery life will be extended, because of features within and the very low resource hug.
jororich.

Post 39 of 57

I Think It Will Be Very Good

by Flatworm - 10/10/09 6:24 AM In reply to: Poll: Your expectations of the final release of Windows 7 by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Look. I think Vista got a very bad rap. I think it's the best O/S I ever used. I put my Vista machine (an E6600 with 2GB of RAM) through some very tough paces, with high-end, high-resolution graphics creation, editing videos and compiling programs (often simultaneously while I walk away) and it has never, EVER crashed in three years. That's what I want from an O/S -- rock solid reliability.

(Please, you Apple weenies, don't start. ANYBODY could make a reliable O/S if they restricted development and configuration the way Apple does, and they stayed with a low enough percentage of market share to avoid being targeted by the bad guys in Europe and Asia. I also like versatility and the ability to "work well with others" from the OTHERS' point of view, something Apple NEVER understood.)

Sure there are occasional minor annoyances like the requirement to invoke administrative privileges for system changes, but I understand their purpose and am willing to put up with the fractional second it requires to accommodate the additional security.

Most of the complainers about Vista tried to run it on their older machines with Pentium IVs and .5 G or RAM. Well, you couldn't run XP on an XT, either, and that's just about the same thing. Jeesh!

For me, the biggest problem with Vista was that it was marketed in so many crippleware versions. They should have sold Ultimate only and it would have saved Microsoft a lot of grief, including the whinings of the people who tried to install it on underpowered machines. Unfortunately, I think they're going the same route with 7.

That said, I think 7 will be a much more elegant and streamlined O/S retaining all the virtues of Vista and eliminating many of the nettlesome security-related drawbacks, and my next computer will certainly have it installed.

Post 40 of 57

Old machines

by rbsjrx - 10/10/09 12:05 PM In reply to: I Think It Will Be Very Good by Flatworm

"Most of the complainers about Vista tried to run it on their older machines with Pentium IVs and .5 G or RAM. Well, you couldn't run XP on an XT, either, and that's just about the same thing. Jeesh!"

I feel compelled to point out that you can run almost any version of Linux on such a machine. Using the very Windows-like KDE desktop environment, the look and feel is almost identical. I work with a non-profit group that is taking older PC's, installing Linux, and redistributing them to low-income users.

Post 41 of 57

That is very commendable of you

by FrenchyHey - 10/12/09 11:26 AM In reply to: Old machines by rbsjrx

But it has nothing to do with the requirement of an OS.

We are not talking a look a like here don't try to compare orange with apple.

Yes we all aware of low requirement of linux, altough with evey advance in linux field you will see more requirement of linux hardware, i.e unbuntu sorry if mispelled, anyway that distro would not work on a old compac presario that was running Win 98 as even unbutu want to offer more and more.

Even apple did drop Power PC or other that are not built on a Intel for Snow Leopard.

I am sure you could find a OS that will run my Compac Presario but instead I decided to pay a to have it recycle as it was way pass it usefull period.

Linux is the open free software, Microsoft is the Open Commercial software and Apple is the not Open Commercial software like IBM did in the past altough they have reinvented everyting almost and do better marketing they eveybody else, to a point that it is very hard to think anything else for a MP3 player then a iPod, you almost have to force your self to think of something else for a MP3 player even when at the time they were not even MP3 Player they were not even compatible with MP3 files for a long time.

And if I follow you, Microsoft and other PC manufacturer are very good for you as they provide you with endless and in certain case still good hardware to recycle for the less fortunate of our society, btw I don't see to many mac at the flee market I guess there owner are able to use them untill they die on the other hand that is not bad also and good for the environment but don't help you much either with your mission to help non profit and poor people to get a computer here.

Keep the good work.

Post 42 of 57

Poll: Your expectations of the final release of Windows 7

by Geezer058 - 10/10/09 7:19 AM In reply to: Poll: Your expectations of the final release of Windows 7 by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I don't care. I have a desktop running XP and a laptop running Vista. Both are doing what I want with little fuss or bother. I will get Windows 7 the same way I got XP and Vista; when I buy a new computer.No plans what-so-ever to upgrade.

Post 43 of 57

Windows 7

by Paul kench - 10/10/09 7:49 AM In reply to: Poll: Your expectations of the final release of Windows 7 by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I installed windows 7 RC,four months ago on a new hard drive,and am very pleased with the results so far.and have ordered my copy at the special release price.my pc is a Fujitsu Siemens Amilo laptop,2yrs old bought new at £500.with office 2007 and AVG 8.5 anti virus.
Best wishes to all that buy windows 7.
from Paul

Post 44 of 57

Windows 7 Expectations

by kick77 - 10/10/09 10:27 AM In reply to: Poll: Your expectations of the final release of Windows 7 by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

1) I have been running the original beta and RC for months now and been impressed.
2) I would expect MS not to want to repeat the highly embarrassing and damaging experience they suffered with Vista.

Post 45 of 57

Expectations for final release of Windows 7

by luckywhun - 10/10/09 10:44 AM In reply to: Poll: Your expectations of the final release of Windows 7 by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

In August,while heading for a gate at Detroit Metro, I spoke to two women who work for Microsoft. I mentioned that I've not upgraded from XP Pro because I don't like Vista. Smiling, they both said they don't talk about Vista but....wait for 7; implying that I'll want to switch to 7.

I have high hopes that they're right.

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