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Windows XP: Reinstalled Windows XP, but I'm still getting BSODs and other troubles?!

by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator - 8/14/09 11:40 AM
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I follow that line with cars....but

by gbswales1 - 8/15/09 11:35 AM In reply to: The real reason by jaegermonster2009

unless you buy a really expensive computer or have Dell 3 year home care how many go back to repair shops? Anyway the argument wouldnt hold water - if you got warnings then you would buy more hardware and maybe pay someone to install it for you

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Windows XP locked up in the middle of reinstall

by elhouck - 8/15/09 7:47 AM In reply to: Reinstalled Windows XP, but I'm still getting BSODs and other troubles?! by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I have a T2460 emachine and was having problems. I tried to use the restore disks, but kept getting cound not find ghosterr.txt. So I went and got full versions XP home edition and went to install it. It has SP3 and was told by the tech I got it from that I might get a file around 55% installed that wouold not install and I was to skip it. I did and the installer worked, but when it went to reboot and actually setup windows and ask for my coa, the XP logo came up and it went to the screen of restarting setup, and then it goes to the blue screen and says it has a FATA error and windows is shutting down. I have tried to reboot from the cd, but I cannot. Windows starts and then stops. Any help?

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Re: lockup

by Kees Bakker Moderator - 8/15/09 7:55 AM In reply to: Windows XP locked up in the middle of reinstall by elhouck

Remove everything from inside and outside the machine that isn't really necessary when installing Windows and try again from scratch (boot from the CD and start all over with a format).

Things I mean: sound card, printer, USB-stick, external hard disk, scanner. Really necessary: hard disk, keyboard, mouse, CD-drive. A diskette drive doesn't harm, a card reader without cards in it probably won't either.

Two other remarks:
1. What was that file that wouldn't install?
2. If you boot from the CD, it can't start Windows. There is no runnable Windows on the CD. Something wrong in what you do.

Let's hope this isn't a hardware issue.

Kees

Post 154 of 187

to be honest I wold disconnect card readers

by gbswales1 - 8/15/09 8:26 AM In reply to: Re: lockup by Kees Bakker Moderator

I built three pcs and installed card readers - windows installation always hung if I didnt disconnect them for some reason - other than that they worked fine

Post 155 of 187

Just had this problem

by cuervojose - 8/15/09 7:59 AM In reply to: Reinstalled Windows XP, but I'm still getting BSODs and other troubles?! by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I just spent the better part of a week with this problem. My computer would reboot for no repeatable reason. I turned off the auto reboot feature, so that the BSOD would display the error message. Each time was a different message. Googling these messages provided a wealth of info, but nothing in those proved to be the answer. Finally, I opened the case. Turns out the cpu had somehow come LOOSE> one of the folding clips that holds the heatsink/fan over the cpu had released? So after many frustrating hours spent looking for the solution, it turned out to be a very basic issue. My first should have been the fact the error messages differed EVERY time the BSOD appeared. Not sure this is your problem, but I am so relieved it was the answer to mine...good luck

Post 156 of 187

been there, done that

by tfarney - 8/15/09 8:47 AM In reply to: Reinstalled Windows XP, but I'm still getting BSODs and other troubles?! by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Same.
new antivirus, antispyware, adware runs, no go
reinstall after wiping no go
New HD no go
new power supply no go
new memory (Kingston) no go
new Mobo no go
new processor (cheapest option, last option) worked
stable and used every day last 16 months
anyone want an apparently good Mobo, memory sticks?

Post 157 of 187

Reinstalling windows XP

by Garfield50 - 8/15/09 12:24 PM In reply to: Reinstalled Windows XP, but I'm still getting BSODs and other troubles?! by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Some advice for your problem for not getting your computer to go on hibernate>> you may want to go to your control panel and click on power management and the click on advnace and the you wi find maybe what you wish for

Ken

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ACPI Drivers likely not installed~mobo MOSFETS compromised

by Forgotten One - 8/15/09 12:41 PM In reply to: Reinstalled Windows XP, but I'm still getting BSODs and other troubles?! by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

If you're getting a BsoD from trying power change states (restarting, powering down, suspend/sleep mode, etc). There are only 3 reasons for this to happen:

1-Power supply comprimised
2-ACPI drivers not installed within WIndows
3-Motherboard MOSFETS to change power states is compromised

#1 is usually the least likely to be the case. Switching power supplies these days usually work 100%, or don't work at all. Either capacitors blow, or the step-down transformer inside cannot energize properly to power all the voltage rails. There are cheap power supply rail testers to check if all rails are being energized past the conversion from AC-to-DC. The most inexpensive thing (kind of an oxymoron) that you can get to ease your PS workload is purchasing a UPS (Uninterruptable Power Supply). Guaranteed clean power to your PS (it's fed through the batteries and not the live line) which lessens the stress of the PS having to constantly work through power fluxuations.

#2 I believe is the culprit for you particular issue. Check Device Manager. If you have a yellow "?Unknown Device" that is most likely the ACPI driver, hardware detected. Vista/Win7 is very good at ACPI support, but XP, you have to manually add that in. XP was built on the older-type power supplies and used a different power scheme (good switching PS' were JUST emerging at the point XP was released).
My motherboard is an ASUS A8VE-Deluxe and an Enermax 485W PS (computer is 4 years old) and I have to manually install my ACPI driver for both WinXP x86 and WinXP x64 for me to be able to go into suspend/sleep mode or it just does not happen, but I do not have to install for Vista x64 (I run a quad-boot computer).
Check device manager for that UNKNOWN DEVICE, then check (within Device Manager) the SYSTEM DEVICES section. My ACPI driver is labelled "ATK 0110 ACPI UTILITY" just for a reference. Then check your montherboard manufacturer's website for an ACPI driver if either of those are true.

#3 May also be the case, but usually, if any MOSFETS (metal-oxide transistors) are not functioning properly, the system itself would be acting flaky, not just having the inibility to power down into a 1/2 consumption rate continuously (kind of the same thing with blown capacitors, but blown capacitors eventually freeze the entire system due to not retaining enough voltage to continuously power hardware devices).
Newer motherboards are ALOT better with stepping down the power to an energized system, the newer ASUS boards for example (example here: http://usa.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=181&l3=896&l4=0&model=2818&modelmenu=1 , scroll to near the bottom of the page) step it down to dissapate voltage so gradually, there is VERY little stress overall to the board the expansion cards and PS.

Older montherboards didn't have as many transistors+capacitors in them, so the stepping-up and stepping-down of power transitions was large, which is the main reason why you were told 10-20 years ago that is it better to leave on your computer rather than turning it off at the end, and on at the beginning of days. It energized the board so sharply, that capacitors/transistors would blow VERY easily (primitive power supplies had a hand in that too). It was less stress on the system to continually run power, than to spike it twice a day, and considering a Tandy 5000 in 1989 cost almost $5k, that was ALOT more justifiable than the state computing is now.
In my system, when I power down to sleep/suspend, I hear a *click* from my power supply. With these newer mobos and PS' combined, I have never once heard a *click* from ANY power supply.

Bear in mind, I only buy higher-end hardware. If you buy cheaper parts/pre-made~solid-state computers (don't tell me Dell/HP/Acer/IBM/etc use all high-quality parts because you're lying or REALLY fooling yourself if you do), then you get what you pay for (which is MOST EVIDENT IN ELECTRONIC DEVICES). So if the immediate above could be you, and you want a great running computer, then your only choice is custom build, not cookie-cutter systems.

Hope this solved your issue. If not, then I hope this has been informative for you and others reading this.

Regards,
Jason Ostapyk

MCP, CCNA, A+, Specialised Electrician Class M Licensed

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Windows XP errors problems

by gmontalc - 8/15/09 12:52 PM In reply to: Reinstalled Windows XP, but I'm still getting BSODs and other troubles?! by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Anybody knows this windows error and how to fix it?

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r289/gmontalc/SP32-234.jpg

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That's not a BSOD,

by MarkFlax Moderator - 8/15/09 12:55 PM In reply to: Windows XP errors problems by gmontalc

and is not relevant to this discussion.

If you have a problem, you may want to raise your own thread in the XP forum, (Link at the top of this page), and tell us more.

That error message is not unknown, and the causes could be many. Lets discuss it elsewhere, otherwise you run the risk of getting swamped in this thread with no responses.

Mark

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Windows errors

by gmontalc - 8/15/09 1:16 PM In reply to: That's not a BSOD, by MarkFlax Moderator

Thanks a lot MARK, your help stinks!

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Don't Hijack other people's threads

by Forgotten One - 8/15/09 1:32 PM In reply to: Windows errors by gmontalc

gmontalc, just because you don't want to follow forum rules, doesn't mean you have to be rude about your error.

Mark gave you a helpful suggestion with no malice, and you insult him for it?

Blacklisted.

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Stupid people ?

by gmontalc - 8/15/09 1:57 PM In reply to: Don't Hijack other people's threads by Forgotten One

CAN YOU READ THE TITLE OF THIS THREAD?.......

Windows XP: Reinstalled Windows XP, but I'm still getting BSODs and other troubles?!

Windows XP: ..... and other troubles?!
bunch of morons!

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No, stupid trollers

by Forgotten One - 8/15/09 2:07 PM In reply to: Stupid people ? by gmontalc

This thread is for responses to the administratively posted question, not yours.

This issue is specific, yours is a paradox.

You have a separate issue, so go make a separate thread.

The more you blindly insult people without using your 2oz brain, the more you make yourself look like a twit.

Please stop arguing and take the advice Mark suggested before you get heat from the forum administrators (again this is helpful advice so if you continue to insult others when they're giving credible suggestions, then it's your own stupid fault if you get muted, or, ignored by CNET, or the helpful forum community here.

Now stop trolling and do what you know is right.

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Windows XP: ..... and other troubles?!

by gmontalc - 8/15/09 2:33 PM In reply to: No, stupid trollers by Forgotten One

Blah, Blah, Blah.........
No wonder humans are so divided !

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