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Windows XP: Reinstalled Windows XP, but I'm still getting BSODs and other troubles?!

by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator - 8/14/09 11:40 AM
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BSOD

by alive357 - 8/10/09 10:49 AM In reply to: Reinstalled Windows XP, but I'm still getting BSODs and other troubles?! by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Check your System RAM-MEMORY and Also try a different Hard Drive,If this doesn't work something is wrong with your Mother Board or your CPU itself,not being smart but you may have to get a new bare bone's System,P.S. CHECK your INSTALLATION DISK for Scatches,Finger Print or Small hair line crackes, Most likely you hard drive is messed up.Thank you for your time,Roy Lee

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standby

by JackOrton21 - 8/10/09 10:30 PM In reply to: Reinstalled Windows XP, but I'm still getting BSODs and other troubles?! by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

if you have a dell you can go to support.dell.com and pic ur computer. you need to go to drivers and downloads. go to video and download the ATI driver and install it then restart your computer. that should fix it

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its may be you have hardware instalation problem

by ardalan797 - 8/12/09 3:05 AM In reply to: Reinstalled Windows XP, but I'm still getting BSODs and other troubles?! by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

the standby button will be grayed out because you still have some of your drivers not yet been installed i mean thier software may be not installed or thier software that you had installed is not their software this will cause an eror in your system you have to check for the driver software and their latest updates to ensure that you will no more have that kind of problems and if you needed any thing or any advice in computers from me you can email me at : ardalan.rain@gmail.com

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May be a hardware issue

by rmailman - 8/12/09 6:15 AM In reply to: Reinstalled Windows XP, but I'm still getting BSODs and other troubles?! by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I consider myself pretty good at fixing BSOD problems -- the one machine on which I could never solve BSOD was finally pitched when I became convinced it was a motherboard problem. Since you have done a destructive format, this sounds like you too may have hardware issues (but you offered no details on the machine). I would first do a memory check as that is one possible cause that you can check out easily (sometimes from the BIOS, if not there are many programs you can find on the web or various utilities). The next thing might be to try a different graphics card (if one is available) or if it has a graphics card, remove it and use the motherboard graphics (again if there). With a clean install and these two areas checked out, I wonder if a new computer/motherboard is in the offing?

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BSOD's most often are software crashes not hardware !

by Blackfire2005 - 8/14/09 6:30 PM In reply to: Reinstalled Windows XP, but I'm still getting BSODs and other troubles?! by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Hey why does everyone always think its some part of your computer malfunctioning when you get a BSOD???
Look I do not care what you use as a computer but 99% of all BSOD's are software crashes and nothing more. No you don't need to format or rip your computer apart when you get a BSOD!
A bsod is not nothing to fear at all. Thats how the computer tells you something you installed is crashing with another program you also have installed. example :: I installed Battlefield2 and it was in my EA games folder. Battlefield2 uses pixel shaders to run the game. I then installed another EA game which uses open G L video drivers . And then when I went to play battlefield2 my computer crashed .
What caused the crash . The two different games both used the same file folder EA GAMES to install into. But neither game would load the propper driver to launch the game. Hence wrong display driver loaded triggered a BSOD . Only time you will get a hardware crash is BLACK SCREEN OF DEATH . Then you know it is a hardware crash.
So remember BLUE SCREEN CRASH IS SOFTWARE CRASH.
Black SCREEN CRASH IS HARDWARE CRASH.
I hope this helps everyone including you other techies who do not understand these two different BSOD'S!
Happy to help if anyone needs help just email me firmbear8@msn.com
If I can't fix it then its not broken or its not made yet !

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Driver Problem

by grandam121 - 8/14/09 7:33 PM In reply to: BSOD's most often are software crashes not hardware ! by Blackfire2005

BSOD is a driver issue. You have a driver that is conflicting with windows. Not a hardware problem. Uninstall all your drivers and install all the "latest drivers" for your hardware.

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Try overclocking your memory

by wolverineI - 8/16/09 2:09 PM In reply to: BSOD's most often are software crashes not hardware ! by Blackfire2005

As an overclocker and system builder I can state that the ONLY times I have seen BSODS on my own systems are from hardware issues.Recently I had my first in years.Page Fault,turned out to be 250g WD HD.Copied entire drive to new 500g WD no more issues.Had it been software problem it would have continued to new drive as it was exact copy.IRQL not less or equal will occur with memory problems such as overclocking.Strangely I had another 4 days ago,right after replying to this thread.Thinking problem with new drive I switched to backup 360 g HD,same issue.As event viewer showed Ide error or HD error on both primary I disconnected #3 HD 80g the oldest,voila problem solved.1 drive on the 6 drive SATA controller was the issue.Failing PSU,overheating CPU,Failing vid card,Bad memory,All WILL CAUSE blue screen.As some Blue screen messages actually state hardware problem,please dont deride others who DO know what they are doing by stating that we dont know what we are talking about.The issue here is to help,not self promote.

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Even over Clocked Motherboards don't cause BLUE BSOD'S!

by Blackfire2005 - 8/28/09 10:08 PM In reply to: Try overclocking your memory by wolverineI

LOL
Each drive even on sata must be same speed rate or they too will cause a crash .
And even with sata drives you should have gotten a black bsod!!on start up if it was a bad drive!SATA CONTROLLERS USE SOFTWARE DRIVERS AND HENCE THE DRIVER CAUSED THE CRASH !!Hence if it was a blue screen crash thats softeware.
If the drive you disconnected was defective did you move all the programs over to one of the other drives that are still connected??
If so you should still get the same crash.
If you did not move the programs over from the disconnected drive then you fixed nothing!!
When you see the drive letter as to where the crash happened it does not mean it was the drive causing the crash . You need to look at the adress of the crash as to what crashed.

If you hook up that removed drive in another computer I bet it will run just fine with out any probblems.

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BSOD INFO

by torticollis - 8/14/09 6:33 PM In reply to: Reinstalled Windows XP, but I'm still getting BSODs and other troubles?! by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

last dec i copied hhd and broke some of my own rules resulting in a mother board video chip or ram to get damagerd -[and when windows was installed and final vid driver in place it BSOD ] --which required a pci video card or a new mother board -[used pci vid card]-and disabled mother board vid -now it will not hibernate because of that -if u have a dell check the lights in back all should be green -if one is yellow and u still have the manual for pc check those lights it may tell you what is wrong or where to start-or as others have commented on it could also be one of them as well,this is my experience,the hard way.

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Reinstalled Windows XP, but I'm still getting BSODs and othe

by monkey_to - 8/14/09 6:37 PM In reply to: Reinstalled Windows XP, but I'm still getting BSODs and other troubles?! by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

sounds more like video ram needs upgrading, or better board .. if limited, boost your ram memory max to squeak by. Low video ram will cause BSD .. a lot easier than doing a reload of OS! Before I do a reload .. hdd's are cheap these days buy a new hdd & bring that up .. do your tweaking with that. Then after you discover what works, put the old back in and make the required changes ..

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Bsod in XP

by stormtrooper - 8/14/09 6:56 PM In reply to: Reinstalled Windows XP, but I'm still getting BSODs and other troubles?! by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Three issues are usually the problem with the Old BSOD on XP. PSU, Bios, or internal lead termination. The worst on to get is when someone plugs an HD lead in the wrong way around or sometimes has something connected via USB which although switched off is not correctly terminated by the manufacturer. For Starters unplug all USB points that are not required and reboot Sometimes a the KEYB_USB.sys is not installed correctly. Common to Logitech. Also in the case of Power saving make sure your Bios setup is set to the S2 position and power saving is switched on in the Bios. Once these issues are clarified try again to reboot without the issue. If the fault is still persisting Enter the Bios and switch off quick boot so the Bios does a thorough checksum of your memory. Also when you origonally setup the computer did you have issues with Ram timings because the bios could have reset and lost all your original settings fo the 1T and 2T timings and extra voltage variances. The final issue may be the real answer. was your system overclocked? If it was you may have to reset the system setup back to original ram and cpu timings to get it to work. Overclocking and Power supply issues are always the main answer to the BSOD in XP but sometimes the basic issue is to start from basics and work your way up.
When I often resolve issues on other PC's with this issue I strip them back to basics. Video card, PSU, RAM, CPU HD and CD/DVD ROM and a keyboard and mouse. just to install and get the Installation working again. I begin with a test install to see if any faults are detected during install or sudden hangs. I make sure all leads are connected well and the PC is well ventilated. I check the Bios temperature monitor for Motherboard and CPU heat and Ram overvolt and undervolt.
Of course all of the above should not be attempted if you are not familiar with anti-static handling of the pc parts. It also requires the basic knowledge on how your PC is put together. If you are not familiar then I advise you get a friend who you trust who does know or you take it to a dealer who can most probably tell you and sort out the problem for a charge.
By you asking the question I guess you have put together your PC yourself.
Good luck and I hope some of the above helps explain the issues and what may cause them. But then again I missed one thing. You could have a damaged or dirty cd of XP.

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BSODs

by rziulek - 8/14/09 7:07 PM In reply to: Reinstalled Windows XP, but I'm still getting BSODs and other troubles?! by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I think a lot of the advice on looking into hardware is on track. If it's XP, a reformat and reinstall usually does the trick.

However, there is one easy hardware check that may solve your problem. Check/change the CMOS battery.

This can throw the system off due to the settings kept by CMOS. If the battery is weak, CMOS can act up and cause the BSOD. I encountered this and a new battery solved the problem.

This is a lot easier than a reinstall of XP.

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Say goodbye to BSOD forever

by psychomichael - 8/14/09 7:12 PM In reply to: Reinstalled Windows XP, but I'm still getting BSODs and other troubles?! by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Here's the obligatory answer that I give everyone these days: If you're thinking of reformatting your hard drive, make the switch to Linux and say goodbye to the Blue Screen of Death forever.

I'm using Mandriva Spring 2009 but I've used Ubuntu and PClinuxOS Gnome...it's so nice that I can do an entire install of my OS with only ONE disc instead of hunting for hundreds of driver discs for each component of my system.

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Do You Have A USB Network Adapter For That Computer?

by mercerik - 8/14/09 7:25 PM In reply to: Reinstalled Windows XP, but I'm still getting BSODs and other troubles?! by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I had that problem last year. At first I thought it was related to SP3 Rollup but it was not at all. The problem was with my Linksys Wireless-G USB Adapter. I unplugged it and replaced it with a Wireless Gaming Adapter connected with an Ethernet Cable to the back of the computer and the problem was solved.

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BSOD

by nhantrinh - 8/14/09 9:08 PM In reply to: Reinstalled Windows XP, but I'm still getting BSODs and other troubles?! by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

you try to change other Ram.

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