Windows XP: Reinstalled Windows XP, but I'm still getting BSODs and other troubles?!
- 8/14/09 11:40 AM
Blue screen mess
by Boothbay - 8/8/09 12:26 PM In reply to: Reinstalled Windows XP, but I'm still getting BSODs and other troubles?! by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
HI, this has happened to me twice...once on my laptop and only today on my desktop. You have to read what the blue screen suggests...a video card problem and etc. In my case, on the laptop, an unused network program was the culprit. I went to Device manager, and removed it. Since then my laptop is fine again. Now, I have to find the problem on my desktop...and had no luck, except, the message says, ''if this is the first time your seeing this blue screen, shut down the computer and restart.." if after restarting, you see the screen again..then it could be a video driver. Well so far, after restarting I have not received the blue screen again. So I'm crossing my fingers. Surprised, the installation of XP did not get rid of the problem.
Drivers or hardware failure
by fivecentfamily - 8/8/09 12:27 PM In reply to: Reinstalled Windows XP, but I'm still getting BSODs and other troubles?! by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
BSOD errors are usually caused by two problems. First, is a driver issue. If Windows cannot communicate properly with the computer's hardware due to faulty or missing drivers, these errors will occur. The fact that you are unable to hibernate or shutdown effectively also hints there may be some driver problems. After you reinstalled the OS, did you install all the drivers from the manufacturers website for your computer? The drivers for the video, sound, chipset and network adapters are the most critical. Sometimes these can be found on a CD that came with the system or in a small separate partition on the hard drive. But even these could be out of date, so your best bet is always the website.
The other issue could be that you have a slow hardware failure occurring. When components like the processor or memory begin to fail, they can manifest as BSOD errors. The most common culprit for hardware failure is overheating of the system, most common in laptops. I had a laptop that slowly died of overheating problems, one subsystem after another failing until it finally would not power on at all. If it is a desktop, you can open it and blow out any excess dust on the components and in the vents. This MIGHT help, but usually once you start getting failures as often as your reporting, even this won't help. You can try this with a laptop, also, but taking them apart to get at the ventilation components might be more than you want to attempt.
If you have all the latest drivers installed for your system and still experience these issues, I would recommend you take it to a professional to have it cleaned and tested or start saving up for a new system. Sorry 
Blue Screen of Death
by marine07001 - 8/8/09 12:31 PM In reply to: Reinstalled Windows XP, but I'm still getting BSODs and other troubles?! by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
The BSOD is one of the most annoying and irritating problems computer users face, and also one of the most complex. There are several causes for it. Hardware/software conflict, software/software conflict, corrupt windows installation disc, bad motherboard, memory, or harddrive are the most common. Bob, since you have reformatted your computer, that rules out pretty much the first two. If you have another installation disc, I would start there. Memory cards are another good place to start, and with their cost, probably the lesser of all evils. Harddrives are fairly easy to replace and pretty reasonably priced. If it is your motherboard, if you are not installation savvy, I would strongly urge you to have an expert do it for you. I hope this helps you and good luck
Maybe
by mayres - 8/8/09 1:44 PM In reply to: Reinstalled Windows XP, but I'm still getting BSODs and other troubles?! by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Hi have had this problem and found that the Hard was faulty yea i know you formatted it the giveaway was that it took a long time to load windows.Another one that might answer your ,query check your ram maybe Faulty.Remove one stick reboot see if that helps if not remove and reboot all the ram a stick at a time also check your Hardware drivers are up to date
BSOD
by nparedes - 8/8/09 1:48 PM In reply to: Reinstalled Windows XP, but I'm still getting BSODs and other troubles?! by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Hey I had the same problem with a new HDD for my labtop,this was a new HDD I removed it and send it back for an exchange to WD.
1)it may be that your HDD it's getting old.
2)try the error ck disk before you do anything else!!!!
Reinstalling XP, BSOD, etc.
by mooseantlers - 8/8/09 1:57 PM In reply to: Reinstalled Windows XP, but I'm still getting BSODs and other troubles?! by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Have scanned some of the replies you've gotten. We all learn from others problems.
I had the same type of experience several years ago. I'd reformatted a drive with XP (home edition). Everything seemed to go fine until it was time to boot from the drive; nothing; not even a complimentary error message. I actually did it 5 times and all I got was a BSOD upon reboot. Guessed that maybe the drive itself was bad even though it was less than a year old. It wasn't until I did the reinstall one last time before spending the $$ for a new drive when the XP install did me a favor by telling me of the evils that lie ahead if I keep the present partitioning. I'd no intention of repartitioning the drive; it wasn't mine in the first place. For the heck of it, I deleted the partition, let the install prompt for the default partition size (even though it was the same)and this time it worked perfectly. Of course you should update whatever flavor of OS you're using to the latest version.
Not saying this your cure & good luck!
Install your device drivers.
by paul0289 - 8/8/09 2:02 PM In reply to: Reinstalled Windows XP, but I'm still getting BSODs and other troubles?! by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
To get the standby and hibernate options working, simply install your video card's driver. After installing the driver for your video card your computer will be able to enter standy and hibernate mode. I have experienced that kind of problem before and i get them solved by installing all drivers for my PC's devices. After installing all the drivers, your PC should work fine.
If you still get errors after installing all drivers for your devices then you have a hardware problem. Also, you might want to check if your devices work properly in other computers.
Goodluck for that and i hope you'll get your problem solved.
I don't, but!
by msgale - 8/14/09 9:42 PM In reply to: Install your device drivers. by paul0289When a BSOD occurs there is alot of imformation displayed on the screen, some might be; error codes, faulting address, faulting modules, register dumps +...+ Why not look them up to understand the cause of the problem. That is why they are printed.
BSOD
by bg777 - 8/14/09 9:45 AM In reply to: Reinstalled Windows XP, but I'm still getting BSODs and other troubles?! by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
The following is my experience with BSOD. Below is what I sent Lee Koo on May 29th, 2007 on this very subject:
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LEE: 05-29-07 @ 9:07 pm EDT
My ongoing problem with BSOD. Having tried every which way to avoid this terrible problem from always appearing, I finally happened on the answer to what actually was its cause…and it happened as a result of something else I was doing.
Here’s what happened: In early October of 2006 my computer started crashing with the appearance of the Blue Screen of Death. It actually happened after working on web pages for several minutes. Believing a virus, worm or other insidious thing invaded my computer I ran all sorts of test, which only proved it was clean, yet this relentless problem just continued. So I contacted Microsoft and via email, worked with their technical people and with their help tried everything they could think of, but the problem continued.
Moving forward to March 2007, I received an email to update software for a spyware program I'd installed some months before. I was told to uninstall the software before installing the update. Fortunately for me, after removing the program, I had a number of interruptions and was delayed for several days before I could install the update. And, during the days when I ran the computer without having installed the spyware program, there were “absolutely” no crashes and no BSOD.
Figuring there was a rational reason for this, I reviewed the dates on which I had originally purchased and installed the spyware software. It was 10-09-06, just about the time the crashing and BSOD started to happen. To make sure I was not imagining the cause for this problem, I then installed the update and wouldn't you know it…the computer began crashing again. I worked on the computer for a day with the crashing continuing and then uninstalled the update. Without the update, the computer no longer crashed and I had not one further problem for about a week. So I then installed the update once again and the crashing started all over. I finally uninstalled the update, called the company from whom I purchased it (Spyware Doctor) and was given a complete refund.
It is interesting to point out that…going on Google I searched to see if other people had similar problems with Spyware Doctor and found they did…there were quite a few!
I point this problem out to CNET because there is no doubt in my mind that many computer users around the world may well be dealing with this very problem and not even begin to consider it is Spyware Doctor as the cause of it all.
Spyware Doctor may be very good software, but like any number of other programs, on my computer it caused a real headache. This could well be the problem that Bob T. is having...or close to it.
BOBBY GOLDMAN
Message was edited by: admin to remove phone number and email address. To member, it not a good idea to post such information in a public forum as I'm sure you don't want to whole world to know your personal information, unless you want even more spam or unsolicited calls.
Windows XP format does not erase all files on hard disk
by dipak nirwan - 8/8/09 4:12 PM In reply to: Reinstalled Windows XP, but I'm still getting BSODs and other troubles?! by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
As MS windows, say any version xp vista or even windows 7 after formatting leave boot files on the disk so that windows setup can be restarted. As virus is stored in this part of files formatting pc by windows CD or DVD will not help you. We had similar problem when system was destroyed by a trojan. PC was formatted for 60 times but the problem was not solved. Latter we could solve the problem by a resque virus scan by kaspersky resque disk, followed by formatting with Paragon hard disk manager. now the pc is working nicely with windows xp only
Windows Format leaves all the data on the disk
by royc - 8/19/09 1:45 PM In reply to: Windows XP format does not erase all files on hard disk by dipak nirwanAll it does is remove / rewrite the directory and partition info.
I use the drive mfgr's diag program to remove all data from the drive.
1st use the test to make sure the drive is installed right.
2nd use the short test to write 0's to the first 10 to 50 tracks.
3rd use the long test to write 0's to the whole drive.
The 1st test takes a few seconds.
The 2nd test takes less than a minute.
The 3rd test takes less than an hour.
Roy
BSOD Troubles after re-install? Look to the hardware
by aquast - 8/8/09 5:22 PM In reply to: Reinstalled Windows XP, but I'm still getting BSODs and other troubles?! by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Like the subject title suggests, if after a re-install of windows XP your are still getting the ill fated BSOD, its probably time to take a close look at your hardware running the OS, rather than the OS itself. Seemlingly mystifying random issues while running your OS can often be caused by faulty RAM, a dying motherboard or even a failing hard drive. If the hardware is physically OK, then you may want to check out your settings in the BIOS to make sure your timings and voltages are all running according to the manufacturers specs.
There are a number of tools out there to check hardware performance that you may want to look into (such as a memory test) and certainly go online and dig up the specs/settings for your hardware and make sure everything is set correctly. If you have a custome built machine its not always safe to assume that default settings are correct.
software
by dshipp28760 - 8/8/09 5:46 PM In reply to: Reinstalled Windows XP, but I'm still getting BSODs and other troubles?! by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Seems likely it is not software at all. Sounds to me as though you are having a Hardware issue.
Try Microsft Memory Diagnostic Test
by sclaflin - 8/8/09 6:31 PM In reply to: Reinstalled Windows XP, but I'm still getting BSODs and other troubles?! by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
Although it could be a hardware/driver issue, these BSODs are probably the result of bad sectors in the RAM. Try running the Microsoft Memory Diagnostic Test to find out. Click here to download: http://oca.microsoft.com/en/mtinst.exe. If these tests fail, then the RAM needs to be replaced. If they pass, then it is most likely another piece of hardware. If you have recently installed a new piece of hardware, try removing it and see if it works. I don't think you have to worry about the hard drive, because Windows does boot, or your CD drive if there is no media in it. It could be a graphics card, floppy drive, etc. You shouldn't have to worry about that too much, because I'll bet my money it is the RAM.
Hope that helps!!!
P.S. When you download and run the Windows Memory Diagnostic Test executable file, it might ask you to burn it to a floppy. Just put it on a blank CD and choose to boot from CD when you boot up your system.
Let's Start at the beginning
by Hforman - 8/8/09 11:48 PM In reply to: Reinstalled Windows XP, but I'm still getting BSODs and other troubles?! by Lee Koo (ADMIN)
First, you had a BSOD. What, exactly did it say? You can't just see blue screen and white letters because, even if you don't know how to interpret it, the whaite letters are trying to tell you something is wrong.
Next, you formatted your hard drive. Did you just format it or run FDISK to remove the partition? By the way, I wouldn't have done that. You can always boot from the Windows CDROM and and run run various repair tools (for example, CHKDSK). Oh, well. I guess it is too late for that.
Things that usually cause a BSOD on boot" are usually drivers. That might not be the case here. My suggestion: get a list of all of the hardware in your computer and, using a friend's computer, download all the current drivers. If you bought a name brand PC, you can go the the manufacturers website with your service number and/or model number and find what you need from there.
Next, remove as much extraneous hardware as possible. Did you add an external/USB device? Disconnect it. Stick to basics. Disconnect from the internet if need be. If your manuafacturer gave you a recovery CD, try booting from that. It may have special drivers already added.
Before starting, find out if your hardware is all working. Is there a memory error? Do you have any diagnostic software you can run from a CD or floppy?
When you finally do boot up, try to take as few "options" and manual settings as possible. Something must have changed and it could be some innocent looking registry or tweak. The other thing to watch out for is if you have any external to the OS software in place. Did you load computrace LoJack? Did you encrypt your hard drive?
Don't try to do to much at one time. That way, you can see where something changes or goes wrong. Also, If you are restoring from a backup, be careful that you don't restore the problem as well.
Good luck.
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