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Windows XP: Reinstalled Windows XP, but I'm still getting BSODs and other troubles?!

by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator - 8/14/09 11:40 AM
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Blue screen of death and other troubles

by Popa41 - 8/7/09 6:57 PM In reply to: Reinstalled Windows XP, but I'm still getting BSODs and other troubles?! by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I had the same problem a while back. Did the same as you did, a Windows re-install. Got the same problems back. Turned out to not be a software problem at all. It was the first signs of my computer hardware failing me. Shortly thereafter had a total breakdown on the motherboard. So, my advice is, back up all your data, you're probably headed for a fatal hardware crash.

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Possible Solutions

by dog_bones - 8/7/09 6:58 PM In reply to: Reinstalled Windows XP, but I'm still getting BSODs and other troubles?! by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Simply make sure that all the drivers for the motherboard are installed. After the install - re-boot your computer and then install any other drivers that you may need like sound and graphic drivers.

The motherboard drivers need to be installed first before any other drivers are installed.

If this doesn't work for you then you could have some bad RAM or something else in your system is bad which most likely could be a defective power supply. Check all your power connections to make sure they are tight. Bad power supplies are usually the culprit when something like that happens to me.

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Numerous possibilities, and a lot of questions for Bob T.

by ben_myers - 8/7/09 7:03 PM In reply to: Reinstalled Windows XP, but I'm still getting BSODs and other troubles?! by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Whenever I have to install an operating system from scratch, I first need to be sure that the hardware is 100% operational. So I run memory diagnostics like MEMTEST-86 and the manufacturer's hard drive diagnostics to make sure the hard drive is error-free. Without knowing for sure that the hardware is OK, it is tilting at windmills to install the operating system and troubleshoot BSODs. Also, as a quick overall hardware check, I run a Live Linux distro like Ubuntu to boot up the system and test all the devices like the graphics, audio and network hardware. BSODs are most often caused by something wrong with the hardware. Not always, though.

Here are all my questions for Bob T., not in any special order:
1. Is the system memory 100% OK?
2. Is the hard drive in A-OK condition?
3. Is the graphics card or on-board graphics known to be in good condition? (Some graphics cards fail after use, usually due to heat and/or poor ventilation. In my experience, nVidia cards fail more than others. nVidia may disagree with me. :>)
4. After installing XP itself, were all the required drivers installed, starting with the motherboard chipset drivers, then the other devices in almost any order? (If the drivers are not installed properly, who knows what can happen? The Windows XP install CD cannot be depended upon to have drivers for all the hardware in a system. That is why name-brand companies like Dell and HP make available driver CDs and downloadable drivers on their web sites.)
5. Are the inside of the chassis and the power supply clean or full of dust bunnies?
6. What are the cryptic codes from Microsoft in the BSODs? You can look up the BSOD codes on the web and get some idea of the causes of failure. But don't get excited. Microsoft does an abysmal job diagnosing hardware errors with BSODs.
7. Are the BSODs always the same or are they different?

Good luck! ... Ben Myers

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Blue Screen Of Death

by dellboyderek - 8/14/09 11:20 PM In reply to: Numerous possibilities, and a lot of questions for Bob T. by ben_myers

Being a computer engineer I have come across this problem several times, if changing the memory does not work then it is surely the CPU playing up. both suggestions have worked 100%.
firstly if you have more than 1 stick of memory in your system remove all except 1 piece then try each piece out separately. after that and it still get the BSoD then you CPU is playing up.
Regards Derek

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Reinstalled Windows XP, but I'm still getting BSODs and othe

by dgjacquin - 8/7/09 7:05 PM In reply to: Reinstalled Windows XP, but I'm still getting BSODs and other troubles?! by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

In my experience, bsod after a windows reinstall is indicative of a hardware issue.

My first step is to pull as many cards from the slots as possible (e.g. minimal system) and see if the issue remains.

Frequently memory may fail over time. If you have 2 memories installed try removing one of them and see if the problem stops. If the problem remains, try swapping the other one (it's pretty rare for two to fail at once). Of course if you have new memory laying around use it.

The other area to check are the drivers related to your motherboard. Obtain the latest drivers and see if the issue is resolved.

The other device that frequently causes issues is the video card. Try installing the standard windows driver and see if the issue remains. My next approach would be to swap out the video card.

The other area to check are the drivers related to your motherboard. Obtain the latest drivers and see if the issue is resolved.

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Windows XP: Reinstalled Windows XP, but I'm still getting BS

by danmer65 - 8/7/09 7:09 PM In reply to: Reinstalled Windows XP, but I'm still getting BSODs and other troubles?! by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Hello Bob,
If you reformatted your hard drive and are still getting BSOD's then I would say it's sounding like hardware or even maybe software driver(s). issues. In addition, I would suggest if you have a few dollars to spare in investing in a new hard drive, just to rule out the the exisitng hard drive is not going bad. Their so cheap nowadays that it's a good investment to have as a spare if your current hard drive turns out to be ok. I would start by installing just the basic hardware and software that you will need to get the system up and running. Once you are up and running I would test the system first before adding any additional hardware or software. You should run memtest86 ( http://www.memtest86.com/download.html) and test your memory to make sure you don't have any faulty sticks of ram. If possible, could you provide your system specs such as hardware and software you are currently using? It would help give us an idea based on your setup.

BTW- here's a good write-up on how to format a hard drive.

http://www.ehow.com/how_6026_format-hard-drive.html


Hope this helps somewhat and my apologies if this has already been suggested. Please let us know how you ultimately makeout.
regards,
Danmer65

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Video

by mdouglas1 - 8/7/09 7:14 PM In reply to: Reinstalled Windows XP, but I'm still getting BSODs and other troubles?! by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Have you tried updating the video driver? Trying a different card? How about a mem test. Good luck!

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must be hardware

by larrance - 8/7/09 7:21 PM In reply to: Reinstalled Windows XP, but I'm still getting BSODs and other troubles?! by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

note the error code, has to be hardware, check out the code and find the error. hibernation is possible because of MOBO drivers, perhaps something is missing, find the driver cd rom and load; from properties of computer, check hardware manager and determine which areas lack driver support; a vanilla driver will not drive a rainbow.

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Re; Problems After a Clean Install

by joseph w. froton - 8/7/09 7:24 PM In reply to: Reinstalled Windows XP, but I'm still getting BSODs and other troubles?! by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Hi! My many years of experience plus the patience I had to cultivate in using Vista Basic has taught me this: Incompatible programs. Well, even Linux isn't "trouble free" no matter how they try to sell it to you! If you have not done a totally lean install, & Windows can hang on to old installs, yes on those dual processors! Try the Windows clean-up manager. But also, if you have a dual processor, go into your D drive, and delete all of it. Just a couple thoughts. Also, hard as it may seem, using and Re-loading incompatible programs will mess it all up! Hope this helps! Joseph Froton

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Most Likely Hardware Issue

by Markymarkmark49 - 8/7/09 7:27 PM In reply to: Reinstalled Windows XP, but I'm still getting BSODs and other troubles?! by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I have been employed in the IT/ Sys Admin field, and worked on hundreds of PC's. Your issue sounds to me almost certainly like bad RAM or failing hard drive. First I would advise downloading a free memory test program, create a boot disk, and run a RAM test from the DOS boot disk. A number of Linux ones are available; but here is a free one from Microsoft that I have used & recommend here:

http://www.softpedia.com/get/Tweak/Memory-Tweak/Microsoft-Windows-Memory-Diagnostic.shtml

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BSOD'S I THINK IS YOUR MOTHERBOARD

by GEO2003 - 8/7/09 7:39 PM In reply to: Reinstalled Windows XP, but I'm still getting BSODs and other troubles?! by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

If I understand your question correctly, - you are stating that INSIDE of Windows you CAN'T SELECT - STANDBY - HYBERNATE AND/OR RE-START the computer from the menu options.

What this would imply to me, is that your motherboard is not reporting its functions properly to the Operating System.

Which is why I think that your motherboard will probably give in sometime soon.

Try using Alt-F4, (that is press down the Alt key hold it and press down the F4 key, a menu should appear) see if you can do something with this command.

Otherwise I would suggest you keep and daily back up of all your files.

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BSOD'S - MAYBE MOTHERBOAR - CORRECTION FROM GEO

by GEO2003 - 8/7/09 7:52 PM In reply to: Reinstalled Windows XP, but I'm still getting BSODs and other troubles?! by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

I am sorry, let me just clarify, I wrote that your motherboard is probably not reporting its functions to the Operating System.
By this I was refering to the Power Down capabilites of your motherboard because these are the sections which you don't have available when you try to use them inside the Operating System.

you could also check the wire that goes from the motherboar to the power button in your pc.

And also you can check the power cord that goes from the PSU- power supply unit - to the motherboard, making sure they are not loose.

Post 43 of 187

Try clean install

by kwting - 8/7/09 7:55 PM In reply to: Reinstalled Windows XP, but I'm still getting BSODs and other troubles?! by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Suppose your computer hardware are good condition. Try clean install, it means you start up with the window install disk, erase all partition. Just fresh new computer after your installation.

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Too many "Bsod" occuring!

by Speedyfanger - 8/7/09 8:00 PM In reply to: Reinstalled Windows XP, but I'm still getting BSODs and other troubles?! by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Having reformatted and installed a fresh version of Windows the most likely answer to your problems as described is related to the hardware and the first thing to check/test is memory. I suggest you run "Memtest". It is available as a free download from various sources and is in the boot menu for "Linux". It is worth burning this programme to disk and use it as a first stop diagnosis tool.Best of luck.

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BSOD

by pwj3 - 8/7/09 8:31 PM In reply to: Reinstalled Windows XP, but I'm still getting BSODs and other troubles?! by Lee Koo (ADMIN) Moderator

Bob. I too had a similar problem and after many installs I found it was caused by a MS Hotfix. I cannot remember the actual name but it had to do with Mass Storage. Once I told it never to appear and install ever again everything went fine. May not be your problem but worth a check...Peter

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